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New Uni starters 2015 (continued from Preparing for Uni)

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circular · 05/10/2015 06:44

Thought we needed a new thread to continue from preparation.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/higher_education/2466997-Preparing-for-Uni-in-2015-continues

Suspect all have arrived by now...

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tantalisingduck · 05/10/2015 19:15

Can I join in?
I posted a little on the uni threads last year, but have only lurked this time round. Dd, who suffers from chronic fatigue, and has done since she was 13, took the opportunity to defer her uni place at Durham last summer to start this year. The gap year gave her breathing space, and she seemed to enjoy the first few months. I guess it was the first time for many years that she was not under stress or trying to keep up with her work, despite 50 to 75% attendance only at school through GCSEs and A levels. We let her relax, although she picked up a fairly lucrative tutoring job for a few hours a week. Since January however, I guess when uni became "this year" she became increasingly anxious about , well, everything. She agreed to see a counsellor each week and had regular appointments with her GP but avoided any travels with her friends also on gap years or other "new" experiences outside her comfort zone. To her old friends and family, however, she was skilled at pretending nothing was wrong, and I think she kept up that pretence with her doctors too.
come August and results and the confirming paperwork coming from Durham her anxiety and stress levels rocketed. There were tears most days, ostrich like burying of her head in the sand on others. I quietly went about gathering stuff for uni. I lurked on here and persuaded myself and her that everyone was feeling anxious and scared. However in September she had a severe relapse of her chronic fatigue, and was sofa bound for two weeks. This really scared her, wondering how she would cope if that happened at uni. She had several near panic attacks, cried often, and got herself in an awful state. She finally opened up to her Gp and counsellor who both commented that she did not have to go to university, or certainly not this year. Her Gp ( rather unhelpfully in my view) said that maybe DD should consider anti anxiety medication ( having advised against it before) but said it wasn't the right time to do it if she was moving to a new place where the possible side effects couldn't easily be monitored.
DD has always felt that she has to go to uni because that's what everyone does, she cannot think of anything she wants to do instead, she feels she is too old for another gap year.....
So, we went ahead with going to Durham and dropped her off at the weekend. She cried practically the whole way up ( and it is a long way) , had chest pains couldn't breathe etc. fortunately we met her best friend's boyfriend when getting the parking permit which helped with the initial move in, but she cried throughout the whole unpacking time, muttering that she couldn't do this repeatedly. In view of her chronic fatigue she was placed in the quieter residential block of her college, but found that this meant that two of the five rooms on her corridor are occupied by third years. So limiting the corridor friendship potential....we met with the senior tutor to discuss how they could help - but the assurances about extra time, and visits from welfare to bring her food if she was ill, and the need to see her new Gp, counsellor, uni disability service, course tutors, which were meant to help her, quite overwhelmed her. She slept not a wink until 4.30 this morning so is exhausted today. I stayed up in Durham and she came to see me post her talks today in floods of tears, begging to be allowed to come home. She is so utterly utterly miserable .
What on earth do I do for the best? Her anxiety is best dealt with by immersing herself in distracting activities, but her physical health doesn't allow her to do this on a sustained basis and new situations add to the anxiety....

tantalisingduck · 05/10/2015 19:18

Sorry to drag down the mood. I just feel I've failed my DD by not fully appreciating her mental health issues and have now landed her in a mess...

Fairenuff · 05/10/2015 19:31

How far away is the uni from home tantalising? I would consider changing to one that is as close as possible so that she can get home to rest at weekends if necessary. Would that be possible at all?

Decorhate · 05/10/2015 19:39

Yes I would also suggest moving to a uni closer to home. There is nothing wrong with coming home every weekend or even living at home, if it helps the situation. If she is quick there are still clearing vacancies & I assume she has good grades if at Durham.

GypsyFl0ss · 05/10/2015 19:45

I agree with the others about somewhere closer to home. This would also perhaps give her the opportunity to try medication to help with the anxiety.

tantalisingduck · 05/10/2015 19:46

It's a long way. Chosen for course and college set up. So you think she should cut her losses and start again? I think that too but DH keeps reminding us both that we are little more than 24 hours in. DD does sometimes say she should reapply....but more often she says she is not interested/good enough to go anywhere. That is depression as well as anxiety speaking isn't it?
The chronic fatigue has probably meant she is less self sufficient than most 19 year olds - to enable her to live a semblance of a normal life we gave her lifts/ made excuses on her behalf / etcetera. This now means that she is less confident in her own abilities than she should be.

MrsBartlet · 05/10/2015 19:51

tantalising my heart goes out to you. I too would be tempted to look at options closer to home for her as it sounds like it could be too much for her to cope with.

We have skyped with dd today and she seems very happy. We have been messaging on our new family whatsapp group (thanks to whoever suggested that!) We only dropped her off on Saturday and her first essay is due in on Sunday!

vodkaredbullgirl · 05/10/2015 19:59

Sorry to hear about your dd tantalising, like others said is there a uni closer to you she could go to.

tantalisingduck · 05/10/2015 20:00

Oh, I hadn't thought of her starting this year at another uni. Assumed it would have to be next year...and thought this year that we'd have to yes, try the medication and expose her to new experiences outside her comfort zone to increase her resilience. I feel such a crap mum for not realising just how bad she was feeling, and assuming all would be OK when she actually started. She has always been a worrier, and in most cases the worry is proved to be unfounded. She sat outside school for an hour refusing to go in to collect her results come a levels, convinced she had missed her grades. As it turned out her grades couldn't have been better. So I suppose part of me assumed her uni experience would be the same.

PUGaLUGS · 05/10/2015 20:03

Aww tantalising I have to agree with the others about looking for a uni closer to home. And you haven't brought the thread down at all, that's why we are all here to post about our worries, fears and successes Flowers

Fairenuff · 05/10/2015 20:06

You weren't to know tantalising, it could have gone either way. It doesn't hurt to try and if it turns out that it's too hard for her, there are other options. Can you/she talk to her tutor/counsellor about how it works if she wants to change uni.

GypsyFl0ss · 05/10/2015 20:41

I wonder whether rushing to find another uni now might not be too much for her? It sounds like she needs to make the space to be honest about how she really feels and then work on managing that anxiety and possibly depression. Once that's a bit more controlled then she can look at suitable options closer to home. You can't have known how bad she was feeling although I do understand how shit that makes you feel.

EmmaWoodlouse · 05/10/2015 20:52

tantalising, a young relative of mine was able to change to a different uni closer to home several weeks into her first term, not because of any particular health issues, she was just unhappy and homesick, so I should think in your DD's case it should definitely be possible even if she hangs on a bit longer. Poor girl, she sounds very overwhelmed at the moment.

DS1 finally got a parcel today that I sent him over a week ago. Not because it took that long to arrive, but because he'd somehow got the impression that you got an e-mail from the hall office people if you got a parcel, and only found out last Friday that you have to go and ask at the office, but it's only open from 8-9am on weekdays. Good job it wasn't food in the parcel! (It was some blue fitted sheets that I hadn't bought for him before he left because they'd been told not to take fitted sheets, as some of the beds were non-standard sizes. Turns out his was a perfectly standard size.)

Headofthehive55 · 05/10/2015 21:09

Universities seem to be very good at letting you change especially when it's for health issues. It might be easier if she were to be close to home. It's a long haul, three or more years and very difficult if she did relapse and need medical attention for you to go and help.

GiddyGiddyGoat · 05/10/2015 21:12

It sounds very upsetting and difficult for you all Tantalising - but it really is such early days. Do you think she might be able to see if she can stay for say a week to give it a chance? I don't have any answers but I do wonder whether if she leaves so precipitously she may regret that and it may in fact knock her confidence more?? Sympathy.

MarianneSolong · 05/10/2015 21:23

I think it's very difficult to stop young people doing what they want to do because:-

  • they are adults or near adults with their own strongly held opinions
  • they want as much as possible to do what their mates do, even if what's right for their mates is not what's right for them.
  • you want to support them and help them achieve their stated goals
  • you don't want to over-protect them and stop them doing things, even if those things are really difficult for them
  • you don't want to be blamed for holding them back
  • you don't want to be left wondering whether they might have managed to pull something off if you hadn't been so protective.

Sometimes you just have to make them let them try something that's really difficult. And find out that yes, it is really really difficult.

At which point their thin veneer of adulthood may crack, and they revert to being small frightened children.

I wonder if the way forward is not about instantly becoming the Parents and allowing your scared daughter to revert into being the Child.

Is there a possibility of you - and her - enlisting other adults who will give her support and enable her to find the right decision?

So that this all ends up being some positive part of growing up and moving forward?

voilets · 05/10/2015 22:17

Frustrated - my DS is missing meals because he does not want to sit alone.
We are paying for catered. Today, could have a lunch instead of eve meal as course was running late - did not go in so he did not have to be alone. He could have bought take away sandwiches but did not go into look.

He is upset with me going on about it.

He has never been very money conscious.

I think he has made a few friends and is trying but just does not like being seen alone.

It frustrates and worries me.

Onestep15 · 05/10/2015 22:48

Hi I have been lurking for a while and taking on all the advice and support, but just wanted to add my dd's experience now, in case it is any help for you tantalising. She does not suffer from cfs but she was v nervous r about going to uni, which I think is the main reason she picked one only an hour from home. The first night we had loads of texts from her telling us how it was not right for her, she had made a terrible mistake, didn't fit in etc etc. by the morning I was panicking and thinking maybe it really was the wrong place for her and checking whether she could get a fee refund and start again somewhere else. We had several very tearful conversations the first 10 days or so, but she agreed to 'give it a proper go' for a month and things have now improved so much that she is planning to review the situation at Christmas. I think maybe just knowing that the door is not fully closed - ie she can leave and have a rethink, but only after she has given it a proper try, has helped her and she now seems to be actually starting to enjoy it. And I think is feeling proud of how she has coped so far. Might be worth suggestin a months trial initially, and then review and if it's sti not going well at all take time out and consider somewhere nearer home for next year? She will certainly not be too old.
Violets, that is really frustrating, could he try to get in a routine of arranging tower his friends and going over to the canteen with them as much as possible, I can understand it must be daunting going in on your own and there must be lots who feel the same way

seimum · 05/10/2015 22:59

Voilets - I sympathise - it's so frustrating. My DD1 used to be a bit like that.

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hellsbells99 · 06/10/2015 07:53

Well out of the blue, DD has said she hates her course and is homesick. Not sure where we will go from here. I have suggested she try and talk to her tutor today.

Molio · 06/10/2015 08:05

Oh dear duck. Are you still up in Durham? If you can possibly stay on longer I'd go to the medical centre and have a very long session there trying to elicit as much support as you can and then do the same with the pastoral team at the college. The GPs up there can monitor any side effects from the meds which sound a very good idea, at this stage. If you can be in the shadows for a few days more (probably very difficult, I know) then that might just be enough time for her to find a few people she's comfortable with and make her feel a tiny bit more secure. Surely upping sticks to a far less good uni nearer home well after term has started could be a recipe for disaster further down the line. It seems a good idea not to lose sight of further down the line although in a crisis I do see that that's incredibly difficult. I don't have experience of this situation but I do have first hand experience of medical crises - so from that perspective I'd say don't necessarily facilitate the thing which looks easier but might be a very short term fix.

Molio · 06/10/2015 08:12

I also know that the Durham collegiate system is extremely supportive - I don't know how other places work, but I'm assuming that the extra layer of support could be of more significant help than being nearer home with a botched start in a uni she didn't really choose. I would think the college could easily rustle up a sympathetic student who has had similar difficulties who could parent her a bit. I would make the GP the first port of call today.

Horsemad · 06/10/2015 08:52

Oh no, hellsbells99 Shock is she saying she thinks the course is wrong for her? Is it the homesickness kicking in do you think?
Not sure what to suggest, apart from talking to her tutor, which I see you've already mentioned.

Chatted to DS last night, he sounded 'flat' but he always does a bit, so hard to gauge with him. He's been dragging his feet organising his student account and is now realising how much his rail fare home will cost without a railcard (supposed to be arranging a Santander student account with free railcard Hmm )

I'm resisting the urge to sort it for him...

hellsbells99 · 06/10/2015 09:20

Horsemad - the way she was talking last night makes me wonder whether she will be packing her bags today. She has text to say she has an appointment with the tutor this morning.