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Oxbridge Entry 2015

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Roisin · 01/09/2014 17:45

Do we have a thread already?
ds1 has decided to definitely apply to Oxford to do Biochemistry. He will probably apply to St John's.

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mrsrhodgilbert · 06/09/2014 20:21

Thank you everyone for your comments. We've had a really long day out on a university visit and I'm a bit worn out. I will have a proper read through your advice tomorrow. Lots to think about, I think we might have discovered that big cites are not her thing. So kind of you all to take the time to write and if it doesn't ultimately benefit us I'm sure others will find it all very useful.

secretsquirrels · 07/09/2014 12:36

I think we might have discovered that big cites are not her thing
This is one of the big choices to make when deciding on uni applications. City v campus.
Cambridge may not seem like a big city to many people but to someone who has grown up in a tiny village it is!

Some very good stuff on this other thread about uni choices.

Roisin · 07/09/2014 18:16

Thanks Beastofburden. I think he was also quite taken with Trinity, who made a point in saying that they don't have to all depart on the same day the moment term is over; and that at their college they have their room for 9.5 weeks per term as standard. But from what you are saying it sounds as though Trinity is the exception, rather than St John's!

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Beastofburden · 07/09/2014 18:32

I think it's the wrong reason to pick a college, really. It is trivial compared with whether the college has people teaching is subject that he would like to work with. Honestly, you won't care once you are there.

Roisin · 07/09/2014 18:32

ds1 has finally allowed me to see a draft of his personal statement: and it seems fine. As far as I know anyway!

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Decorhate · 07/09/2014 20:45

Hi Roisin

It doesn't seem that long since we were both on a "starting Y7" thread! Haven't been on MN much in the past couple of years but now frantically researching UCAS application to help my Dd. I also looked at her personal statement today but unlike your ds, her needs loads of work :(

She went to a summer school at Oxford this year and really fell in love with it. However, as she wants to apply for medicine she knows Oxford would definitely be an aspirational choice for her & she's still debating whether to risk wasting one of her choices.

Saltasaurus · 08/09/2014 00:45

Saltasaurus - do you have any feedback or advice about St John's, Oxford? ds1 likes it because he likes the gardens/space, he likes the fact that students live on site for all 4 years, he likes the location (for Science) and the fact that it's not on one of the busiest/tourist streets in Oxford.
We've heard/read that there's little accommodation flexibility at St John's, unlike other colleges, and that because of conference business, students have to clear out/move in very promptly at the end of week 8/start of week 1 and that if you want to stay extra days in noughth week or nineth week, you have to pay extra and you won't necessarily be able to. Have you found this to be a problem?

Hi Roisin. St John's is lovely. The gardens are huge, peaceful and glorious. A couple of the quads are beautiful. The first year accommodation is concrete, brutalist, and hideous, (this is the case for many colleges) but comfortable and cosy inside from what I've seen of it, although not particularly smart or new. No ensuites I don't think.

As others have said, everyone has to move out of their rooms over the holidays at all colleges I think, which is a massive pain, but there is some storage available for bulky items, so DS doesn't bring everything home every time.

I have found the college to be quite flexible, and they offer several weeks free 'vac res' for students who want to stay late or arrive early for term. DS has used this a for a couple of weeks without a problem.

St John's is the wealthiest Oxford college, travel grants etc are available, accommodation is affordable (£3000 last year - some of his friends at other unis paid twice that). They give all students an academic grant of £230 (might be more can't remember) for a tablet books or study materials. Free food is often on offer.

The location is great for the science departments. They do get tourists, but aren't swamped like some of the colleges.

Saltasaurus · 08/09/2014 01:03

And I was sooo impressed by the way St John's looked after the new students in freshers week. (I'm sure all the colleges are great for that, but only have experience of one, of course) - they laid on free meals, free drinks, pub nights, cinema trips, city tours, ice skating, club nights, subject meet ups, quizzes, frisbee tournaments, 'meet your neighbours' dinners, musical concerts - loads of other stuff I've forgotten now. I left DS being plied with goodies and dressed in a freshers t shirt. It's a great environment for making friends.

Roisin · 08/09/2014 07:14

Thanks Saltasaurus, that all sounds really positive. ds1 isn't very outgoing and would be reluctant to go to optional freshers social events... but if there's free food on offer he'd be there like a shot!

Well, it's a long and uncertain journey from here, but StJ on the form seems a good place to start.

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MrsBartlet · 08/09/2014 13:13

Can I join you? Dd is applying to Cambridge to read English. She has been working on her PS this weekend as it has to be into school by next Monday.

welshpixie · 08/09/2014 15:33

I would like to join as well, Dd is applying for ASNC at Cambridge. On the college front, we went for a visit in June and she was all set on Queens' but then she went to Emmanuel and fell in love with it, and wouldn't even go into Queens' after that.
Again she didn't have Cambridge on her radar until April, she is our only one so this is going to be a roller coaster I think.

MrsBartlet · 08/09/2014 16:01

Dd is applying to Emmanuel, too. She is completely in love with it, although to be honest she would just be grateful to get into Cambridge no matter which college she ended up at!

KittiesInsane · 08/09/2014 16:05

DS had a bash at Oxbridge entry last year and is pondering having a second attempt (has AAA at A-level). Trouble is, even to try, he'd have to withdraw from his current, secure-but-deferred, university place elsewhere. Hence much angst.

Some days I want nice cuddly shrieky toddlers back instead of complex near-adults!

upyourninja · 08/09/2014 18:58

Good luck to all.

For English, Cambridge starts with Middle English and Chaucer (chronologically I mean, not in order of teaching). Oxford starts with Old English, as I understand it. But OE is offered as an option in Tripos I and II at Cambridge. So interest in early English may have a bearing on choices. It's also worth looking at compulsory papers for Tripos II as Cambridge has compulsory prac crit and tragedy papers, and a dissertation. I'm not sure what the Oxford options are.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/09/2014 22:34

It starts with ME and Chaucer in order of teaching too, FWIW.

webwiz · 10/09/2014 18:18

Just a quick question for anyone in the know. DH and I are going away tomorrow evening till the 20th Sept and was just wondering is there anything else DS should be doing while he is in the capable hands of his grandparents.
He has chosen his college and more or less decided on his other 4 unis.
The first draft of his personal statement is with school and the feedback is it just needs tweaking a bit but its well on track. School are doing their bit with references etc and the internal deadline for the completed application is 30th September. DS has set up his UCAS account and has added some stuff but hasn't done everything yet. Thats it for now isn't it?

AllMimsyWereTheBorogoves · 11/09/2014 16:31

Amazingly well organised! I hope you have a good trip.

sassymuffin · 16/09/2014 23:11

DD is having a bash at applying to study Law at Gonville and Caius, Cambridge. She will be a first generation University student in our family so we really have all been learning about the admission process from scratch. I keep telling her it is a lottery as to whether she is successful as I don't want her to pin all her hopes on getting in. We are currently in Personal Statement hell with DD refusing to let me read anything she has written until after she has submitted her application.

KittiesInsane · 16/09/2014 23:20

Good luck to her, Sassy (and I'm sure she knows this, but just in case: you pronounce it 'Keys', and I've rarely heard anyone bother with the Gonville bit of it).

Bumpsadaisie · 17/09/2014 14:13

Kittie

I was in the position your son was in - rejected from Oxford, had a good place at Durham, got good A levels, applied to Cambridge and got in. Durham made me an offer again the second time round. So glad I went for it.

I would tell your son to go for it! He has got good A levels and even if he doesn't get in this time round he will get an offer from another good university. He is deferring anyway, so give it a go!

sassymuffin · 17/09/2014 22:55

Thanks Kittie, yes she knows its generally referred to as 'keys' she has been a couple of times and fallen in love with the place. When she told her school that was her chosen college there was much sucking air through teeth and shaking of heads. Her school has never had a successful applicant for Caius before and they have tried to push her towards other choices.
She is lucky in that she is happy with all five of her choices so it wont be the end of the world if she is rejected by Cambridge.

welshpixie · 21/09/2014 17:28

Well, DD has filled in her UCAS form and sent it off. No returning back now. At least there will be no more panicking about the PS, just the waiting game.

webwiz · 21/09/2014 21:24

well done to your DD welshpixie that is organised!- DS's school have an internal deadline of 30th sept so hopefully he will have stopped meddling with his PS by then.

AllMimsyWereTheBorogoves · 22/09/2014 11:49

Interesting article here on Oxford admissions process.

welshpixie · 22/09/2014 14:50

Webwiz she is organised fortunately. Her school is flipping useless, there is no internal deadline and the uni counsellor is only interested in business and the USA. The joys of an international school. She may as well have been a private candidate for UCAS for all the help she has had, but it has to go through the school.

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