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Guest post: 'Having a gifted child isn't always a gift'

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 09/06/2014 15:24

Welcome to the biggest stealth boast in MN history, because I am about to write a whole guest post on being the parent of a gifted child.

This means breaking the number one rule, which is, of course: ‘Never, ever talk about your gifted child.’ The taboo around giftedness is so strong that – and I've agonised about this a lot – this post appears under a pseudonym. I just can't imagine any good coming out of being identified, particularly for my daughter. I very nearly changed her gender too, just to make sure that no one knows it's me. How sad is that? But I wanted to stick my neck out for a reason - because, actually, having a gifted child isn't the entertaining brag-fest you might think.

Imagine if you will, that school insisted that your Year 2 child go into Reception. Imagine that they are learning very little, and it's making them anxious and badly behaved because they know they are different. Imagine that the school say there's nothing they can do, and there's no right of appeal.

To cap it all, you can't even talk to your friends, because they will assume that you are deluded, boastful or hot-housing, or possibly all three. Should you say anything on-line, the responses are even harsher, ranging from disbelief and ridicule ('if they haven’t written a symphony by 4, what's the fuss about?'), accusations of not giving them a childhood, then usually: ‘oh, it will all even out in the end’.

This is a rough approximation of our lives and frankly, I hate it, every little bit of it. I hate the three solid years that we've spent fighting to make school work, socially and academically.

I hate the fact that we've had to move her from the neighbourhood school and we're no longer part of our local community in the same way. I hate not being able to talk about her achievements anywhere: not in the playground, not on Facebook and – the fact that has brought me here to rant at you – not even on Mumsnet. If I could choose, I'd far rather she wasn't gifted: plain old bright would do me just fine. But I haven't got that option.

The truth is that, just as there are children at the other end of the spectrum who find it harder to learn, there are gifted children. The government designation of the top 10% of any class as gifted and talented has muddied the water a great deal – and there isn't a proper definition - but let's say those with an IQ of 130 or above, which is about 2% if the population. These children don't find it easy in mainstream education – but any support they get is entirely at the discretion of the school, which can mean that it doesn't exist at all.

By the end of Reception, my daughter had the reading age of a twelve year old. ‘Great’, you might think, but in a school that only went up to Year 4, they didn't know what to do with her. But a gifted child just has to put up with it; their needs, it seems, don't count. ‘The others will catch up,’ said the head teacher. We had to point out that yes, this would happen if they did nothing, but perhaps this could be seen as a failing by the school rather than the natural course of events.

In many ways though, we have it easy. Compared with some of the children we've met, she’s pretty straightforward. But the girl I know who was reading chapter books in her pushchair before she was two and a half? She's been through four schools and is home-schooled now because it's the only way she can learn at her own level. Many gifted children end up being home-schooled because, in the end, there is nowhere else for them to go.

We also have it easy because our daughter's abilities don't come with many other special needs, apart from a bit of dyspraxia. But a significant number of gifted children have something else going on too, whether that's ASD, ADHD, or sensory issues, as well as physical issues such as hypermobility, making things even tougher for them and their parents.

So when you come across a thread where someone is trying, perhaps for the first time to ask whether their child is gifted or not, all I ask is that you think for a moment before responding. Yes, it might be a stealth boast. It may be true that other children will catch them up in a few years time. Equally though, it might be a parent really struggling with how different their child seems, unable to speak to anyone in real life and in need of help and support rather than a shredding.

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FinDeSemaine · 10/06/2014 21:36

I want to meet your daughter, simpson. She sounds just like me. Helen Keller was a huge obsession of mine at that age. I had a book about her and read it over and over again and tried to recreate the bit with the water and the writing on her palm etc, and was constantly trying to work out what it felt like to be her.

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 21:37

Sybil - my dd was just like your son. Always saw herself as an adult equal to me. She never got the whole parent child thing which was highly frustrating at times as I could never do the because I told you thing.

LadySybilLikesCake · 10/06/2014 21:43

"Where would I begin to look for stuff though that I don't have to spend loads of ££ on. She is 6 btw. She is also v interested in pavements for some reason " The internet is your friend. You could also get in touch with your local water company and see if they have any information she can have. If you never ask you'll never know.

Ds has to discuss everything nelson. It drives me nuts as I feel beaten into submission sometimes. He wants to be a barrister. Perfect job for him Grin

Thank you, Fin Smile

insanityscatching · 10/06/2014 21:50

Well ds2 has a brother and sister with autism so I can confidently say he definitely isn't on the spectrum although he has a photographic memory and can memorise anything he hears with no real effort. He's doing a masters at the minute and amazes those on his course as he sits in lectures seemingly taking no notice and playing football manager on his phone but can then produce notes quoting verbatim anything relevant. The first exam he did they were all nervous, ds did no work and no revision saying that he'd learn from it and work next time if needed he still got a high merit borderline distinction grade.

simpson · 10/06/2014 22:03

Fin - she stuffed cotton wool in her ears & kept her eyes shut although I had to draw the line at her coming down the stairs like that Grin

She was fascinated with lip reading too.

Oh, water company is a fab idea Grin

Printer currently dead packed up.

FinDeSemaine · 10/06/2014 22:13

I recently told DD abut Helen Keller, and now we walk everywhere with DD's eyes shut and I have to tap on her palm (once for down, twice for up) to indicate steps. If you fancy a quiet walk anywhere you could try it too, simpson. It's the way forward and the only way I have found to walk to school without being talked to death.

LadySybilLikesCake · 10/06/2014 22:15

I've sent you a PM, simpson.

I went on a tour of a sewage works. It was vile.

hellymelly · 10/06/2014 22:27

I was obsessed with Helen Keller as a child! How funny.
This thread has made me really emotional, it is like breathing in a forest after months in the city. Such a relief to have other parents talking honestly with no sniping or jealousy. Many of your dcs sound much more brilliant than dd, I am enjoying that rather than feeling threatened or envious, so why is it so difficult in everyday life? As another poster above said, I don't feel threatened when I hear of some lad's sporting prowess, or a little boy who is astonishingly good on the violin. I postively love hearing about other children who are far far better than dd at maths, it makes me feel less alone. We had a meeting with dds teacher today about friendship problems, low level bullying etc, she is very nice, but it is obvious that she hasn't "got" dd. So far only her reception teacher, and oddly, random stangers, have just clicked with dd and understood her. I feel we are failing her as parents, as she is clearly understimulated, has dumbed herself down since starting school full time, particularly this year, and not terribly happy at the moment. She wants a like minded friend. Sad.

BlackeyedSusan · 10/06/2014 22:27

useful site for learning about sewers/waterworks here SIMPSON

MiniTheMinx · 10/06/2014 22:28

Simpson, maybe you have an engineer in the making. I have a family of engineers, can't get more geeky than engineering Grin We have a shelf full of books on bridges, I don't get it either! Your daughter sounds fab.

nelsonscolumn, I have one here that has never understood the difference, he can reason and argue quite logically and has done since he was very young. Like Sybil I have questioned whether it is partly my parenting, but I can see the dialectic with DP and DS. It simply doesn't work to say "because I say so"

And yes, to the talking, it never stops, well not until he finds something online or in a book, then he can be quiet for hours, then it starts again, because he wants to discuss it to death. To my shame, much of what he talks about now goes way over my head.

morethanpotatoprints · 10/06/2014 22:42

Totally agree with the parent child relationship.
My dd is exactly the same and just doesn't get it.
I used to worry that people would think she was badly behaved, but now I don't care.
She doesn't understand authority but is respectable to grown ups.
Its natural to see them communicating with teachers and coaches on an adult wavelength or several years above their own.

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 22:58

It's so nice to hear that other people have children like mine. Many of my friends used to say I had it easy in the teenage years as my dd didn't do the usual rebellions but didn't understand the challenges.

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 23:01

Oh and I agree with the obsessions. Dds were many and varied. The worst was philosophy - obsession with Satre anyone?

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 23:02

Oh and I agree with the obsessions. Dds were many and varied. The worst was philosophy - obsession with Satre anyone?

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 23:02

It's so nice to hear that other people have children like mine. Many of my friends used to say I had it easy in the teenage years as my dd didn't do the usual rebellions but didn't understand the challenges.

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 23:03

Sorry

nelsonscolumn · 10/06/2014 23:03

Not sure why I keep double posting.

MiniTheMinx · 10/06/2014 23:33

Nothing wrong with philosophy Grin try dealing with an obsessive interest in the industrial revolution and steam engines, steam rollers and static machinery. I spent an entire week in Yorkshire looking at steam engines and another week touring old factories and water mills! twas fun. He was 7, thankfully he grew out of that, was all a bit anorak.

simpson · 11/06/2014 00:05

Brilliant link BES, thanks Grin

Lovely to hear about everybody else's kids & makes me feel not so overwhelmed by DD's obsessions/drive to learn!

This IMO is what the G&T section should be about Smile

nelsonscolumn · 11/06/2014 00:08

I agree. The few times I have ventured into the G&T section I found it a scary place. If we were able to just talk about the challenges of our G&T children it would be marvellous.

nelsonscolumn · 11/06/2014 00:08

I agree. The few times I have ventured into the G&T section I found it a scary place. If we were able to just talk about the challenges of our G&T children it would be marvellous.

BlackeyedSusan · 11/06/2014 00:44

sorry what was that nelson?

bloody phones

Grin
LadySybilLikesCake · 11/06/2014 00:52

You need to steer clear of philosophy for a while. It will give you brain drain and it just encourages more questions! I'm lazy I gave him an old law book once and two years later I'm still being quizzed about criminal law.

Beckamaw · 11/06/2014 08:12

I was 'that child'.
Could do long multiplication and long division at 5. Nobody taught me, I just could.
My treat for this was to be be kept in at break times to demonstrate my skills to lots of people.
I disliked school. I was disruptive and bored. I was labelled a 'boffin'.
I have not 'excelled' as an adult.

My DD1 is just like me. I fear for her.
Sad

upyourninja · 11/06/2014 08:21

Hi all, is it too late to hop on here for a bit of advice? I'm starting to realise that DD is very sharp-minded and I want to figure out how to nurture her appropriately.

Apparently I was very similar as a child but I was a 'late bloomer' in secondary school and almost out of no where achieved very high exam results and perfect scores, and took up a place at Oxbridge. I wasn't going to post but so much of what I've read here about the issues your children face suddenly brings my schooling experience rushing back. I want to do better for my daughter.

If I tell you what she's able to do at nearly 2.5 could you give me some ideas about activities which might be fun and challenging for her?