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Please can someone help me. Im in so much pain and I dont know what to do.

992 replies

spookycharlotte121 · 19/04/2010 00:02

I have had horrible pains all day..... they feel like periiod pains. As the day has progressed they have been getting worse and worse.

Nurofen isnt touching it. Im totally exhausted by it and just want to sleep. Im sat here crying because I dont know what to do. I took painkillers nearly an hour ago anf they just arent working and I just want to sleep.

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ScaredOne · 20/04/2010 22:45

I think the mass email thing is a great idea. Maybe even include some possible risks of misdiagnosis. That way they would know we are on their case if you know what I mean? We are not just going to drop their disgraceful behaviour towards their patients

Valpollicella · 20/04/2010 22:46

I'm up for the email. Or phone call

I know someone going through a med degree now - she has to have a basic understanding of scans, and how to do them. Therefore it's implausable that NO ONE in the hosp can scan her tonight

BosomsByTheSea · 20/04/2010 22:47

Sorry, x-posts.

I don't think a mass e mail would be helpful - I'm with MMe Lindt. The nursing staff and doctors wouldn't get it until days down the line. I think we just have to keep in touch and keep supporting her for now.

ScaredOne · 20/04/2010 22:47

Bosoms, yes I would think so. It just seems so weird that they have "off hours" for things that save peoples lives. It's just like off hours for ambulances or something! Sorry this happened to you

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 22:47

okay mmelindt, you're right.

i am baffled as to how they are getting that it's not an ectopic.

i am emphatically not saying that it is, iykwim? there are other things it could be... but they would all be diagnosed with a scan, surely? and i don't understand how they are ruling an ep out, really i don't.

Valpollicella · 20/04/2010 22:50

This is what I don't understand...One (very probable) condition could be ruled out with a simple scan.

And yet they're giving her paracetamol and leaving her till the morning.

BosomsByTheSea · 20/04/2010 22:51

Maybe there's something we don't know - wasn't there some confusion with dates earlier - SC said that they thought the pg would only be 3 weeks along.... (whereas from what she said it could be 5 weeks along).Maybe they're ruling it out because of the confusion with dates. 3 weeks would be too early for an ectopic to be causing bleeding or pain.

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 22:51

actually i think that it would be a fairly complicated scan... you would think that there would be someone there senior enough, but i don't think it would be a run of the mill thing, because you're looking for free fluid and for nothing in the womb, and they know that at a bhcg of 300 they wouldn't expect to see anything in the womb anyway.

hellymelly · 20/04/2010 22:52

If they knew how many angry women are ready to fight on the Op's behalf they would be whizzing her off to be scanned right now.

nigglewiggle · 20/04/2010 22:52

I had gone to a large teaching hospital and the considered wisdom was that there should definitely be someone available to scan 24hrs. They obviously don't like calling them out though. In my case I think they had calculated that it was cheaper to inject everyone with anticoagulants over the weekend than to call out a radiographer.

This is even more serious though because they cannot treat this until they have confirmed what is going on and if it is an EP the consequences could be dire.

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 22:52

bosoms, i was literally only just past when my period should have shown up when i had bleeding with the first ep, and some pain. not bad, though, admittedly.

BosomsByTheSea · 20/04/2010 22:55

Thanks Aitch - that is interesting and I didn't know it could be so early that the ectopic started to cause trouble. Mine was 6 weeks and I thought that was early!

Gosh, seems like EP is not so uncommon after all.

BitterAndTwistedChoreDodger · 20/04/2010 22:55

So, what, if I roll up to my local hospital now with a suspected brain hemorrhage they will tell me I can't have a scan because it's out of hours?

I have been lurking on this thread but I had to post.

Can't believe poor charlotte has still not been scanned.

JustMooching · 20/04/2010 22:57

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toccatanfudge · 20/04/2010 22:58

ooo bitter I saw you post on the other thread - you are SO not being unreasonable what with you both having a week off and all that.

poshwellies · 20/04/2010 22:58

EP is not always ruled out with a scan though.

Mine wasn't,it didn't show up and I was around 9 weeks preg.

It was my pregnancy hormone level esculating with the blood loss and then them operating,that they found I had a EP.

BosomsByTheSea · 20/04/2010 22:59

Aaaaaah Bitter - I think it is because it is a gynae scan that it would have to be done at EPU.

They said to me something along the lines of "If you are miscarrying then there's nothing we can do, if you're not then the babies will still be fine in a couple of days when we can get you in for a scan".

This is a different case, though - a potentially life-threatening condition - you'd think they'd call someone in.

Alambil · 20/04/2010 22:59

Just got a message on FB - she's got pain releif and another doctor is on his way to see if he can "get a closer diagnosis"

I've told her to ask again for a scan - to get a second / third doctor involved if needs be

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 23:00

it's not that uncommon, according to that paper i linked to they#re now saying one in sixty but i was ever so shocked when i realised how little the docs know about it. i'm sorry to hear about yours, and everyone#s on here... the more you learn about eps the more you realise that they really are all different.

Alambil · 20/04/2010 23:00

oh sorry, just seen toc was paying more attention than me!

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 23:03

oh yes totally, poshwellies, you can't rule it out with a scan at this stage, but you can make a more intelligent diagnosis.

sometimes the body actually makes a thing called a 'pseudosac', would you ever believe it, and that is in the womb. so the scanner can see that, think all is fine, and the ep can still be there. terrible, really.

Valpollicella · 20/04/2010 23:04

Send her another message and tell her to not ask, but demand Lewis. Does she have anyone with her who could be a bit assertive?

Posh, not it wouldn't be ruled out but it might help to diagnose? Or rule out? Just seems unbelievale this has been going on for 2 days and not one doc has reffered her for a scan, or even consider EP as a REAL possibility

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 23:05

they've got one bhcg measurement from yesterday, so can take one from tomorrow and friday if nothing shows on scan and symptoms don't worsen, they will get some clues from serial tests.

Alambil · 20/04/2010 23:05

Yes, I did put it a bit more like that - told her to get one, and/or to get her mum and sister on the case

(I said "you MUST get them to scan you")

toccatanfudge · 20/04/2010 23:06

have to say this thread has been a lesson to me as well, I've been incredibly lucky - 3 pregnancies, 3 gorgeous DS's, I would never have known half of these symptoms - only thing I knew about was one sided abdominal pain as something to be checked out.

I had lots of information given to me in all 3 pregnancies about the signs and symptoms of things like pre-eclampsia but knew nothing really about EP's.

You know regardless of whether it is an EP, or (as it hopefully is) something less serious I think the way she's been treated is appalling.