Please can someone help me. Im in so much pain and I dont know what to do.

[spookycharlotte121]

I have had horrible pains all day..... they feel like periiod pains. As the day has progressed they have been getting worse and worse.

Nurofen isnt touching it. Im totally exhausted by it and just want to sleep. Im sat here crying because I dont know what to do. I took painkillers nearly an hour ago anf they just arent working and I just want to sleep.

Good luck. Thinking of you, Charlotte.

hiya all

Got a message from SC about an hour ago on my phone (and then promptly fell asleep on the sofa) -

she wants to apologise to you all on this thread and doesn't want you to think she doesn't appreciate you help. She got panicky and felt like a nuisance to the hospital. Her mum was talking to the Drs (and was pretty angry).

Latest message a few minutes ago to say it's a waiting game, and she'll either text me or post on FB when there's news.

Aw poor SC. And disgraceful behaviour from the hospital.

her mum angry? the docs angry?

Hope she is ok...

Hope you're doing ok Spooky.

Some fantastic support and advice from people on here - The great side of MN again

sorry - just woke up - her mum is pretty angry at the Drs

if you're still reading, the hospital is half-right wrt the hcg levels. if there is a normal pregnancy there, they probably won't be able to see anything at this stage. however, that's not the way to establish a non-ectopic pg, iyswim? they can't disprove what they can't see.

so at those levels (on my first ep they were 160 on my first scan) they're not looking for a pg (anyway it's not a normal pg, different blood supply, not in womb etc so you cannot go by 'normal' hcgs and think that it means preg has been highers and is now dying back and leaving the body. what they are looking for is bleeding, pockets of free fluid around danger areas like the fallopian tubes and ovaries.

so you've spoken to another ill-informed medic i'm afraid. no joined-up thinking. i'm so sorry that you're going through this. and of course i'm still hoping that it's a cyst.

SC, you're not an idiot if the hospital discharged you without explaining what they'd tested you for and subsequently ruled out. If you don't understand, feel worse or are frightened then you definitely should go back regardless of the attitude of the doctor. Don't be afraid to make a complaint via PALS (the reception at the hospital can point you in the right direction).

Hoping you feel better soon.

here is the nhs guideline for management of chronic presentation of what might be ectopic pg. (this is for dartford area hosps but it should be the same). note 'undertake scan'.

Chronic Presentation
This can often be very difficult to recognise but it is important to be suspicious of women who are complaining of recurring lower abdominal pain / ache with erratic PV bleeding and generally feeling unwell. A vaginal examination will indicate unilateral tenderness. The uterus may be normal or slightly bulky. A pregnancy test will be positive. The SHO for Gynae should be called who should involve the Middle grade if there is suspicion of an ectopic pregnancy.
Action
? IVI access
? Take bloods for FBC, group and save and quantitative hCG
? Take urine for pregnancy test
? Undertake an ultrasound scan

www.dvh.nhs.uk/downloads/documents/9GV4VM4KJ3_Guidelines_for_the_Managementof_Ectopic_Pregnancy__Tub alPregnancy.pdf from here. it acknowledges that a transvaginal will probably see a preg only when hcg is >1000 but like i say, recommends a scan nonetheless.

hope things are ok

any more updates on fb?

Oh poor SC, hope you aren't getting too stressed by all this!

no - nothing yet - am going to be online (mostly on FB and MN) now until probably 12/1am so will check back regulary and update if there's anything from her

cheers, toc.

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cheers toc.

will be back very early tomorrow. having my own nightmare at the mo...off to drown my sorrows.

charlotte. thinking about you. x

I just read this all through - I'm really shaken by what SC has been through. I hope all's well.

Spooky
Glad that you have such fantastic support, that your Mum and your wonderfully sister are there for you. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when your Mum laid into the doctor.

Hope you are ok, and getting the treatment needed.

Would this be a good time to suggest a MN Campaign to educate the medical profession and the general public about the dangers of EP?

ok - I need a good response - that's short and to the point to her latest text, I don't have predictive text and I can't write long messages as it's an ancient phone.

Basically she's said nothing is happening and she feels like she's in the way...........

Not sure, maybe tell her something like,

"You're NOT in the way , tell them all your symtoms and make sure you get that scan".

symptoms*

thanks - that'll do

Tell her to stay put and get that scan!

I hope she is feeling better, less dizzy etc.