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Runners Thread Continued

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almost40 · 10/05/2005 13:28

Hi everyone, and congrats to those who did so well over the weekend. I was trying to post a new message on the runners thread, but couldn't because I think there were too many messages (over 800). I have a beginner's question. I ran (walked/ran) everyday for 1 week, then missed 1 week, and then went out this morning, and found that I could not run at all. My ankles are in severe pain when I run, but strangely do not hurt at all when I walk. So I ended up walking the whole way. I just bought new trainers - but I can't imagine that's the problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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handlemecarefully · 02/08/2005 15:27

Personally Gdg - and I'm no expert, I'd think you would find it quite a toughie. 10k (6 miles) is a fair old distance, unless you don't mind walking some of it.

I've been running on and off for about 8 years - although in the past it was short distances of 5k only (very interrupted lately by 2 pregnancies).

Started running again regularly about 3 / 4 months ago, and have only just got to the stage where I could do 10k.

Having said that I am a fat fe*ker, almost 2 stone overweight and not a 'natural' runner. Some people are 'naturals' and you might be one of them and - just in case you are one of them!

handlemecarefully · 02/08/2005 15:29

ajmum - not had that whilst running, but I have had 'leakage' on a rebounder trampoline so I can relate to some extent!

Gobbledigook · 02/08/2005 15:30

Hmm, thanks hmc. I do find running easy and I don't have any excess weight so perhaps I could do it. However, it'd be at a push I think so I'll leave the Tatton one in Sept - it's just too soon. Really need the 1st one in about Oct/Nov but can't find one to do yet.

Think I'll get down to the gym this week and do some runs to see how it goes.

handlemecarefully · 02/08/2005 15:33

You find running easy - pah! (dead jealous). I need resus afterwards usually!

Gobbledigook · 02/08/2005 15:35

Hee hee! I don't mean I'm not huffing and puffing at the end but I'm not an awkward runner iykwim - I don't find it hard to run though of course I do get knackered at the end!

Really want to get started now - need some new trainers though first!

Hurrah - shopping - added bonus!

emmatmg · 02/08/2005 17:00

Another cosmic twin factor here the GDK.

we ARE runners.

potty1 · 02/08/2005 17:13

Gdg - are you not far from Macc then? I'm over the other side of Leek towards Stoke. You could always do the Potters 'Arf next year, it's good if you like a hill (I don't!).

Ajmum - lol at your Paula moments (sorry) . I don't have 'leaks' of that sort but have certainly found that a good run is just the best thing for keeping constipation at bay!!

Gobbledigook · 02/08/2005 17:18

Emma - spooky!!!

Potty - Not too far from Macc and used to work in Bollington but I'm not nr you, I'm in the other direction toward Manchester. Don't like the sound of that hill!!

Gizmo · 02/08/2005 17:51

Wow, getting busy in here, isn't it?

Guess what I didn't do on holiday . Only one 8 miler (although that was rather harder than expected - sand is tough, isn't it?) and then many, many bottles of wine later remembered I was meant to be in training.

I've made up for it a bit since I got back, though: been out three times so far.

AJmum, I'm afraid I share your problem. Generally an empty bladder is essential for me before going out or, alternatively I have to find a big bush or a large puddle to run through - that was probably TMI, wasn't it? I find it's actually much less of a problem with long runs, because I'm going slower, so the impact of each stride is easier to deal with. I've certainly never had a problem during any marathons/half marathons.

HMC, if you want to add a bit of speed, well, it's time to think about - ta da - speedwork! Nothing fancy, you can just do simple intervals once a week until your 10k and it will make a big difference I promise. There's only one small problem they hurt. Not childbirth hurt, but the sort of red in the face, 'the engines cannae take it, Cap'n' sort of hurt. The simplest way to get started is with a short fixed interval (ideally around 200 meters but you don't need a track - distance between lamposts, or length of a short road, will do) and run it as fast as is compatible with maintaining life. Then turn around and jog back to the start and do it again. You can either build up the number of repetitions of this or, if you find it too mind numbingly boring, you can play variations with timing yourself. So perhaps you do one session of 8 x 2min fast with 1 min jog recovery between each, and the next week 5 x 4 min fast with 3 min jog recoveries. After a few weeks of this you should probably find that you are able to run your normal run slightly quicker but with the same level of comfort - it just improves the capacity of your heart and lungs so they let your legs do more effort for the same input.

I don't know if that's helpful, but welcome to my world of pain, anyway

potty1 · 02/08/2005 18:17

Gizmo - I've promised (!?!) myself another go at the speedwork, my initial attempt was pretty rubbish and I just felt sick..........must try harder.

handlemecarefully · 02/08/2005 21:38

Ah....thanks Gizmo, I thought it might involve something like that. Doesn't sound pleasant - but I am going for a run tomorrow, so will start then [trepidation emoticon]

handlemecarefully · 02/08/2005 21:39

Btw Gizmo, I think one 8 miler whilst on holiday is pretty good going - training or not training!

Gizmo · 03/08/2005 11:41

Thanks HMC - but it was meant to be a holiday from work, not running. I just got deterred by not having my normal easy routes available, I guess.

Anyway...good luck with the speed work. It may hurt but when you finish, you will feel so gooooood - like you've done your good deed for the day.

Gizmo · 05/08/2005 12:06

Hey folks, I have a request for information from another forum (I know, I know, I should do some work )

Has anyone ever been given any advice about running while pregnant - other than 'don't'? I have a vague memory that, if you're already a runner, it's ok to do limited runs (less than 45 mins and 75% of max heart rate) but I can't find the source of the information! Doh.

handlemecarefully · 05/08/2005 13:27

I was told something similar - if you are accustomed to running then you can continue, but don't get too hot and out of breath.

So, I suppose for most people that would mean gentler slower runs than their usual canter. As I tend to run at 10km/hr at shorter distances (5K), I would probably slow down to 8.5/9 so that I am very comfortable and only gently glowing.

Gizmo · 05/08/2005 16:15

Yes, the 'don't get too hot' thing rings a bell. I didn't run much during pregnancy but found it helped morning sickness in the first trimester

lapsedrunner · 07/08/2005 17:28

My Doctor told me that if I was already a runner then carry on for as long as I felt comfortable. I ran until I was 5 months for no more than 30-40 mins at a time.

tabitha · 07/08/2005 20:40

Well, I have finally gone for a run (after my attempt at the Race for Life last month)
It didn't get off to a great start my neighbour came in for me at 9am as agreed and I was still in bed - bedroom clock was ten mins slow, my excuse. But once we actually got started, I really enjoyed it. We ran along the canal and it was a lovely morning. Managed to run for over 30 minutes without feeling too knackered and then walked a bit and ran some more. We were out for nearly an hour altogether.
I'm feeling a wee bit sore now and unfortunately have undone all the good work (caloriewise) by eating four Muller 'American-style' corner yoghurts, but I'm definitely glad I did it and we've arranged to run again next Sunday if not before.

Gizmo · 08/08/2005 09:28

Hey Tabitha that's great. 2 x 30 minute blocks of running straight out of bed is fantastic going for a first outing. Did you have a good level of base fitness before you started running?

You might find you are a little more stiff tomorrow that today: sometimes it hits your muscles like that. Anyway, one of the nice things about running is that the rest days are as important as the running days for building your fitness: you don't want to do too much too fast and get injured. So keep us posted here with how it's going and what happens with your next outing.

Gizmo · 08/08/2005 09:29

PS don't worry about the yoghurts. If you catch a consistent running habit then it will more than compensate for yoghurts.

Gizmo · 08/08/2005 09:41

Meanwhile I have an embarrassing confession....

I bought some shoes online last week (well, from ebay actually, because I am a tightwad ). Normally I would pop down to a sports shop before bidding on shoes online to check the size/make suit me but this time I thought I'd wing it, since I am a pretty standard size 6, albeit with rather wide feet.

They arrived. They looked very nice shoes. I put them on, pranced around the bedroom: they felt a bit snug around the toes but otherwise great.

So the next obvious thing to do was take them for a run and to that end I wore them for my last long Sunday run, which was a thirteen miler. After six miles it became obvious that my right foot is in fact a size 6.5. However I had chosen to do a there and back again route, so I still had to get home . If you'd like an idea of what it's like to run 6 miles in badly fitting shoes, just bind your feet tightly with something, and get your child to jump on your toes for 50 minutes while you go ouch ouch ouch (expletive deleted).

I am now the proud owner of a multicoloured big toenail and can only run in my oversized shoes, the ones that cause my middle toenail to drop off if I run for more than 90 minutes in them. Perhaps I really ought to learn to shop more effectively .

Anyone fancy a pair of Saucony Grids, size 6? They're practically unworn, honest!

tabitha · 08/08/2005 19:14

Thanks for your kind words, Gizmo
I suppose I must be fitter than I thought although I do very little formal exercise, mostly lots of walking and running after a toddler.
Bad luck about the shoes - sounds agony - I need new shoes but unfortunately they're the wrong size for me.

Gizmo · 10/08/2005 09:39

So how are the legs Tabitha? Are you going to be able to get out this week?

handlemecarefully · 10/08/2005 09:51

Won't be long before that multi coloured toe nail drops off Gizmo!

I haven't run for just over a week now - have had very rotten cold and really chesty (very 'productive' cough).

Do you guys run with a chesty cold? I find I get really short of breath very quickly on even minor exertion.

Feel well enough for a gentle outing tomorrow I think...

potty1 · 10/08/2005 10:55

Gizmo - the nail sounds lovely!

Hmc - they say you shouldn't run if you have symptoms below the neck. So run with a head cold but not a bad chest. A friend of mine ( a very experienced runner) pushed herself too hard with a bad chest and endded up in hospital with pericarditis. Very scary. Take care.