Should old tom-ay-toes be forgot and lemon brought to rind - 10/10 thread

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For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

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Oh hello Lemur

I saw some beetroot in a shop yesterday with saccharin

My toes hurt. One in particular. They don't like the cold.

I'm here too

TooT you just need to eat and get back into the jeans you have! What size are you now?

I walked to the pub and back last night cause I was so sick of not doing any exercise! I ought to get the stepper back out of the garage. I put in there out of the way for dd's birthday and that was 2 months ago

I'm an 8 now. I'm fine though. 8 is a better size. And my tummy is less fat and wobbly.

Pink, I thought you weren't on the computer today...

Naughty Pink get back to sorting the nursery out you slacker!

Saccharin in beetroot For goodness sake, I just wish they would stop playing around with our food. I'm not a fan of betroot, I think it tastes like dirt.

It's 10am and I've already had three pieces of fruit, so I'm off to shine my halo

Earthy, Lemur. Like dirt indeed

Beetroot is divine.

I'm just switching the pute off

No fandv so far. I had cornflakes and am planning croissants and hot choc when my friend arrives and I don't care!

But I'll have salad for lunch. I promise.

Right. I really better had go. Just washing up and tidying the toys away so I can have a clear head to start upstairs.

My friend is seeing a new fella who I feel a bit about. It's bothering me.

No, I was right the first time. It tastes like dirt!

Thank you for kindness.
I think I have cried every day these holidays and am sick of it.
I think I get very anxious about having a bad stomach, which i preusme is IBS playing up, then it gets worse and so on.
Then I feel crap because I am miserable and it gets worse.

I have lost weight since the summer holidays and am sure it is down to this. Not that losing weight is a bad thing necessarily.

I used peppermint oil capsules last night and i think they helped.
Also Rescue Remedy.

Unfortunately I htink it was cheese that gave me such a bad stomach last night . It is one of my favourite things.
I htink I iwll try not eating it today and tomorrow.

I am supposed ot be going to a freinds's house for lunch tomorrow and am already anxious that I won't be able to eat etc.

Sorry to be such a moaner.

rach how unpleasant
being worried about what you eat is partic nasty as it should be a pleasure
you sound like you really want to get to the cause of it - i hope you can focus on it and maybe improve something
have you spoken to holistic type people? my glowy lady always available oh phone and can advise supplements and dietary things
i know that way can be pricy but can be worth trying if conventional meds not working

Not a moaner LittleR, you are in pain and stressed and that's what friends are here for....to help you find solutions.

Do you get the opportunity to walk/run/ or meditate? The exercise is brilliant for feeling unhappy and the meditating can help you find a more peaceful place in your head, however stressed you are.here and here
And of course I'm sure most of us would be 'happy' for you to e-mail us if you want a more private opportunity to offload.

From personal experience I can tell you that however unhapppy you feel, bit by bit it is possible to get yourself to a better place. Give AD's some consideration if you need a mental/emotional crutch while you get things sorted, and St Johns Wort is a herbal alternative. I cried every day, several times a day for a long time and am quietly proud of how, with friends (especially on here) I have got to a place where I am more in control of my life. Never stop talking to people and I am sure you will find a way forward. {hugs} xx

Oh, insomnia is back with a vengence Toot.....brace yourselves for Hyper-feather!! lolol.

Hope you are Ok. I managed to adjust some of my jeans, but they aren't easy to do successfully. And you can't beat a good route around a charity shop anyway.

Off to get something done...see y'all later xxxx

LR, I'd phone Franny's glowy lady if I were you.
Or at least find out what the problem is rather than speculating and worrying.
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I am so pissed off with being stuck in the house. I want to go out and walk. Grump.

Littlerach - I have suffered a lot with IBS and anxiety in the past, still do to some extent. Have to go out now but will get back to you later about it.

I must walk a long way. Have eaten huge fry up which didn't break any rules but can't be good.

We are going to the graveyeard, loads of space for bikes and heelys and silliness. Never anyone else in there and beautiful trees.

have had a quick skim.

LR - oh dear, I hope things pick up for you. People on this thread aalthough appearing to be bonkers have quite an aresnal of helpful advice and are good for morale so you must keep posting.

Anyway, me me me. I am not very good at namechanging and ran another thread I invited you to and I think a lot of you knew it was me - I have had the thread deleted now.

Anyway, long and short of it is that me and DP are having a temporary seperation for the next two months. it is not a seperation whilst we try and work out how to split up but quite a genuine let's not spend any time together and try and work out what we are going to do kind of thing.

Thanks to those who were supportive on my other thread - felt like I didn't want to post on here without coming clean as it were.

I am back to uni and work next week so will be caught up in that head spin bonkers stuff again - which is a shame because i have really enjoyed my holiday here - will drop in lots though, especailly as i am sleeping really badly!

Oh, and have still not had any alcohol as per resolution.

And I LOVE beetrroor and HATE sweetners.

anyone else a bit about guad's graveyard?

were you a goth guad?

Oh BBBee

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I'm so sorry to see this is you as I wasn;t quite sure. I hope you have some RL support while you sort things out? Please come and shout either here or on FB if you need anything.

LR, how horrible for you. It is worth trying to work out if something in particular is triggering it. I used to get really bad stomach pains and bloatedness which I eventually discovered was caused by bananas. Can you mention to your friend that you've been a bit out of sorts and don;t want to eat too much?

oh bee i am glad to know it was you, well not glad it was you, but glad not to be guessing and wondering
i think your plan is a really good one
i hope things work out for the best, whatever the best is
and very sorry you have had lousy time

Hi guys.
Thank you.

Bee, you are right, the people on this thread are amazing. I ma really touched by how you all replied ot me.

FK, I willl tell my friend that I have IBS and that I won't eat much - she won't belive me! Fran, I love food. I really do. And that has made it worse in a way.

I have taken soem more peppermint oil and have had brown rice and veg for lunch and feel okay. Dh has bought osme British Stilton but I am going to try not eating cheese.

The anxiety I know I must deal with. I have been reading up on it all, and reading your advice and I do need to do some relaxation. Also, when I get a stomach pain, I will try and improve my posture.

Enough about me

Bbee, I ma sorry to hear about you and dh. I hope you work thorugh it.

And yes, I am worried about Guad and the graveyard

Guad, any advice you can give would be very appreciated.

What's wrong with graveyards? They are very peaceful and interesting and have lots of lovely greenery and stuff. I wasn't a goth, no.

Sorry you're having a hard time, Beee, hope things work out for the best.

Little rach - I went to the doctor a few years ago about my IBS and she prescribed me prozac. I was convinved it was physiological rather than pathological despite the fact that it had got so bad I was bordering on agarophobia and used to plan the simplest of journeys where I could stop for the loo and would only go to the cinema if I could get the end seat and eventually stopped going out altogether.

I said I didn't want prozac so she referred me to a CBT things which I did for six months or so. It was extremely helpful, i hadn't realised I was following all the classic patterns of a severe anxiety and health phobia. When I learned about the thought processes and realised that little things, for eg, constantly ringing friends for reassurance before going out was typical, knowing this seemed to help.

The combination of the cbt and seeing a herbalist (there was a little st johns wort and valerian in the mix along with other things) and following a fairly clean food diet really helped and slowly I got back to normal and I can't believe i was ever like it tbh. It peaked just after I graduated and I had near killed myself aiming for a first with two children and it all got too much.

Sorry for essay. Hard to shorten that. Not sure if it's any help, but I do recommend a herbalist. I always go back there now if I start to get bad again. I can usually stop it before it starts ifswim. I hope you can get some help.

OMG, that is my life exactly

The dr gave me some self help leaflets and a book presciption, which are helpful but only when i am sitting reading them. She has put it down to anxiety.

So I should think about counselling/herbal/glowy person. TooT has given me some phone numbers, do I call one of them and see what they say? I have to save up first I think.

You have been incredibly helpful, Guad, thank you.

Do you still suffer with IBS? And the anxiety bits?

LittleRach, phone for a chat before you save up. And mention that you are going to save up. Do it tomorrow.

Bee - I can't remember if you do hugs. Well I do.. Here, it's on the right. No kiss unless you want one. I always forget about kisses and then they take me by surprise.
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Sorry to read about the rotten times people are going through. BBBee I am very sad you are having such unhappiness and hope your decision is bringing you some peace of mind. Being with yourself for a while can be very reviving in terms of making sense of things. Wish I could help with the IBS littlerach but there is such good advice here from everyone! My sister has it sporadically and I have never really understood how distressing it is. Being told not to stress about the thing you are so stressed about can be such a recipe for hopelessness I remember during a period of miscarriages being told that worry could be bad for a pregnancy well how the heck are you going to stop worrying about something that takes over your life. She takes a lot of supplements but not sure which ones.

I will do [hugs] for all too though I am not a hugger and always get it wrong in RL -- I don't when I should and I do when it's not appropriate and end up banging bosoms and missing handshakes and kisses.

Osba what's going on, is there any news on insurance or from the police?

How is your mum Fran. They are runner beans. I could have saved you a lot of fretting as I knew straight away from your (excellent) description (badge please).

I would have liked to catch Womble, since I came back she has been blink and you miss. Still hoping for a meet up if she travels this year, hasn't forgotten and has the time.

Food: some very very good asparagus and cucumber wasabi (never heard of it before but it's a sort of wrap and I had four big ones), courgette, carrot, beans, some totally jellified fruit on top of a panacotta 99 pc sugar am sure and a glass of juice. Yesterday I forgot to report the last wizened old clementine from the garden which was as tart as tart can be. About 6?

Actually steer clear from the [hug] as we have nits. Myself and dc3 who I snuggle to sleep most nights despite his advanced age. Have had a very satisfying day of combing through -- three of us are clear but us two were very productive of the little crawlers. Am changing all the sheets at 1030 pm. Oh how the evenings fly by.

that was a bit long

had first day without generator, two power cuts. Brr. Did you get out for a walk Toot?

Good luck with everyone's detoxing. Don't really drink at all except emergencies involving champagne flutes but I just can't give up coffee which is dreadful.