Truth about vaccinations quotes

[alwayssaythanku]

These are quoted from www.vaccinetruth.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, indeed its the only thing that ever does." Margaret Mead

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as, in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless beyond measure. I would say it borders on the criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

Cost for vaccinations: $10.00
Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00
Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*
Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

• Actual bill United States

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely" receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system

"The only shot my son needs is a shot at the future."

......Lori Mcilwain

Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." A. Saul Contributing Editor,
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (www.orthomed.org)

You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them out.

From the October 2002 Idaho Observer: Turns out smallpox is alive and well and has always been with us.

SMALLPOX IS SMALLPOX IS SMALLPOX ONLY BY A DIFFERENT NAME

CDC promotes culture of fear in advance of mass smallpox vaccination campaign

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a 49-page report September 22, 2002 that details guidelines for rapidly vaccinating entire populations if even one case of smallpox is reported.

The CDC claims that vaccines eradicated smallpox from the face of the earth so the appearance of one case of smallpox would mean that the nation is under attack.

CDC documents prove that cowpox and monkeypox are clinically indistinguishable from smallpox. Therefore, claims that the disease has been eradicated and no cases have appeared in decades are false.

We have a first hand account of a poverty-stricken back-to-nature family from the Okanogan in Washington state that contracted smallpox in 1988. The combination of having been bit by cimex lectularius (the common bedbug that carries smallpox and thrives in straw mattresses) and poor health from malnutrition caused the outbreak in this case.

Since malnutrition, bedbugs and straw mattresses are not likely to be eradicated, neither will smallpox.

However, CDC documents also prove that smallpox in its natural state (variola virus) "Is not explosively contagious," said Dr. Joel Kuritsky, CDC Smallpox Response Activity Director at a public forum in St. Louis June 8, 2002. "The scenario in which a terrorist infects himself and walks through a city spreading the disease just wouldn't happen," Kuritsky explained.

Where it would take close, intimate contact with an infected person for at least seven days to transmit variola, vaccinia virus (the form found in smallpox vaccines) is extremely contagious. According to the CDC's Vaccinia (Smallpox) Vaccine Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) report for (June 22, 2001), vaccinia virus can be spread to other parts of the body or to others by inadvertently touching the papule that develops at the site of injection within 2-5 days. "...care should be taken to prevent contact of the site or contaminated materials (bandages) from the site by unvaccinated persons."

The public has been told that smallpox is a deadly disease that kills up to 30 percent of the people who get it. Smallpox is not deadly. It is a skin disease that becomes severe and develops into secondary infections such as pneumonia in malnourished or improperly treated persons such as those from third world countries.

To verify the accuracy of this report, simply go to the CDC website at www.cdc.gov and follow the links to smallpox.

Quote from Happymerryberry

"And in the spirit of even handidness I once worked for a pharmaceutical company. My job was to make sure the advertising companies didn't 'bend the truth' when it came to using quotes. So trust me, I know just how easy it is to mislead people with quotes!

And the source you used isn't peer reviewed (smile)"

Aaah, I see. Nuff said

Anyway, i am going to start a new thread if anybody is interested because this one is now too long and to tiresome to load up, particularly if you dont have broadband.

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Well there are lots of different variola viruses, it is a family of viruses that have similarities but do not cause the same disease....chicken pox is from the same family

And yes, that well known peer journal The Idaho Inquirer.

What the CDC is talking about is the transmission of smallpox if it were used as a terror wepon.

If you are interested in reading the histrory of the irradication of small pox go to

www.who.int/emc/diseases/smallpox/Smallpoxeradication.html

But be warned it is a rather long read. Incidentaly please realise that before you post showing that there was a rise in clases of smallpox as vaccination started, it is because there was a massive level of under reporting prior to the vaccination starting, people would hide family members with the illness, out of fear and ignorance.

And as ever AST miss reads what is printed. My joy was to stop misrepresntation, which I did, with 100% success, in the cases I studied. But since you have such an inability to actually read what is written, I dounbt that you will accept that

nyway, i am going to start a new thread if anybody is interested because this one is now too long and to tiresome to load up, particularly if you dont have broadband.

LOL that's because someone keeps cutting and pasting instead of just posting links so we can read the whole article.

Happy, Pharmaceutical companies hire people to do what they want them to do, just like every other company. Companies who produce milk, hire people to sell milk. If the milk comes from cows full of antibiotics, they are hardly going to display on the milk carton, "Milk made from antibiotic laden cows". Bit of an oxymoron dont you think -advertising companies dont bend the truth. If you were really really good at your job, I am afraid you would be out of a job. Why are you getting personal in your comments?

Regarding low incidence of smallpox prior to vaccine, happy, same goes for polio.

Which just shows yuo know bugger all about the legal restrictions on the pharmaceutical industry in the UK. I know what I did are you are guessing

I and many other people know a lot about pharmaceutical companies. They are the biggest money makers in the world apart from maybe the Rockefellers and some Arab magnates. Pharmaceuticals make money. Plain and simple. In my estimation the concern for popular health and unestimable profit, do not a healthy mix make. Do i need to know more?

How to read would be a start

But always - you or I can't EVER claim to know as much as the people that actually work IN the companies themselves.

If an employee was really really good at his job stopping a pharmaceuticalor an advertising company from bending the truth, then they would most definitely be out of a job. What do advertising companies do? Not much else. Watch a tv ad for a car or coca cola. Are drug companies any different. If they had someone on board who was gonna tell them, hey this might damage public health, do you think they would keep you on board. Nope. You may have worked for a drug company but unless you are clinically trained in biology chemistry virology and bacteriology, I'm afraid you couldnt know the real "truth" of what is in their products. Further you couldnt know the real truth of what their products did unless you were privy to their own research after the products were consumed.

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Err, never claimes to be an expert in every fild or research in biology, but I have a degree in Biochamistry and spent many years in reasech in 3 of the 'best' uni's in the UK. As for having access to the data, well, yes in fact I did. I was also responsible for the drug safelty monitorng, in liason with the CSM.

Every paharmaceutical company Hast to enply a medical department to check it's ads, it is a legal requirement. And far from sacking me, I left when I became pregnant.

So far I have taken your ill made remarks in reasonable humour. But if you don't stop calling me a lier, I will take matters further.

And regarding the money issue, I have my doubts myself. However I know that capitalism has made a better job of drug safelty than the old soviet block ever did.

alwayssaythanku - what are you on?

Parmaceutical companies may not be the devout, social-responsibility-led companies we would like them to be, but neither are they the parasitic fount of all evil that you appear to think they are.

From reading this thread it looks to me like you are the one who is selectively using research.

i must say alwayssayhankyou, your tasteless hysterical foaming-at-the-mouth ranting has probably encouraged more people to vaccinate their child than not - I'd rather follow advice delivered in a calm and considerate manner than this sort of thing.

geekgrrl - it made me make a mental note to get ds's next lot of vaccinations sharpish!

"I don't have to work for a pharmaceutical company to know that they profit from drug making. It is a fact."

Well......they ARE companies.

ALL companies are out to make a profit - if they didn't they'd go out of business..........

and god knows where that would leave many people! Asthma sufferers, my mother with high blood pressure, osteoarhtitis and Parkison's disease.

To be blunt you can find just about anything on the net. Elvis lives and all that.

But unless she can prove that I lied in work or colluded in a company misleadin the public I sugest that she shuts up, PDQ!

Pink I think you could be right - I'm notorious for getting into huge debates with people, admittedly occasionaly I do sometimes get personal - but try hard not to AND I do usually at least have the sense to see when I've

a) got in too deep
b) Have found someone who REALLY knows more than I do
c) when the thread as run it's course.......and while I do 'copy paste' things a lot I certainly don't paste entire pages LOL

This just smacks of shit-stirring to me. First post 17 January, this thread started on 20 January. Most of us don't join Mumsnet and then (deliberately) start a thread like this - unless all we are doing is wanting to stir up trouble.

Am I being suspicious in wondering what the motives are for a thread like this being posted by a new poster ... the words Wig and Robe keep somehow springing to mind.