Problem/Dependent Drinkers and Alcoholics (recovering or active) Support V

[kokeshi]

Welcome to the thread, the purpose of this is to give anyone who is having any trouble with their drinking, a safe place to come and post about it honestly and without judgement.

There are many of us that use the thread for support and encouragement: some in recovery, others just needing a place to share about their worries. It's been going on in one form of another for a while now and has helped many people.

Thank you to all of those who have kept it going thus far, and welcome to anyone who has decided the time has come to ask for help.

Everybody's welcome, no matter what stage your drinking is at.

Jump right in, the water's fine

Hell. I went to the womens centre for the relaxation session. thought it would be nice to make contact with the outside world and make me feel better. there were about 4 women there, the youngest being about 50. they were talking about how its nice to keep yourself occupied and all these new fangled cars, whats wrong with the bus. felt like i'd skipped a couple of decades and I should have a blue rinse. i was feeling low before i went, now i'm even more low. don't mean to sound ungrateful and i'm sure those women find it really helpful but its just not my cup of tea. shit. really don't want to go into work now.

BlaDeBla...hugs to you! I was in that situation back at the beginning of March; we had decided no more and were happy with our wee family unit, then took a calcualted risk that went awry! We are resigned now, and happy about it, but it was a bit if a shock...less so though considering we took a risk knowing what could happen, iyswim.

fingers crossed you can work through this with your DH, and good luck whatever you decide to do

well done on the recent sobriety to everyone, especially funkydory.....those non fuggy mornings are like being in a different reality aren't they? that alone is my inspiration

ho glowormish...cross posted with you. Try not to be too low about it; you gave it a go, which is reason enough for feeling good about yourself; for trying something new rather than hiding away (I'm very guilty of that sort of thing as well).

Take heart that you had the confidence to go, and try something different next time

Daisy
thanks, I really forced myself to go, nearly talked myself out of it a couple of times. but you are right at least I made the effort (unlike my tying).
I am desperately trying to find some daytime yoga classes near me but still can't find any.
How are you anyway? Whats been going on?

Agree with daisy, glowwormish. If you hadn't given the class at the women's centre a try then you'd have been left wondering whether it was for you or not. At least now you know it isn't and can look for something else instead

Thanks funky you're right. its just spurred me on to google again for yoga classes and i found a result that wasn't thrown up before. hurray i've found a yoga class around the corner on a thursday morning
i'm still avoiding going in to work tho.
I think I might go and buy myself a new pair of tracky bottoms (my old ones are sad sad sad!)

I'm fine glowormish.....looking very pregnant now and feeling regular kicks. I even felt one on the outseide yesterday, so DS and DH are excited that they will feel some too soon.

I've been doing brestfeeding peer supporter training for a couple of weeks and am now a qualified peer supporter and have my details up on the local support groups website as a contact. I'm a bit nervous that someone might actually call me for help I feel great that I went out and did it though; something positive for me.

For your new joggy bums, M&S do a fab leisure (I hate that word) trouser called beach trousers, that are loose fit and very comfortable and only £15 a pair. they do them in various colours as well and they would be perfect for yoga!

oops, just noticed the time...gotta do the school run

Our situation is very difficult at the moment,and so far, I have not spoken to anyone about whether or not it is actually sensible or safe to continue with this pg under the circs. I've spoken to my breast cancer nurse, who was more concerned about whether I should relocate follow-up, and I haven't seen anyone from the gastro team. I don't have a shrink any more, but I had a brilliant one in London.

Anyway, I'm relaxing with a glass of wine (well, trying to)

hello all

anyone?

could do wtih a chat

Oh god bladebla, I hope you and DP find a solution. PLease use the thread if it helps, there's nothing worse than isolating with something as huge as this. You seem to be in good company on here anyway.

Ryobi, I don't recognise your name, are you new to the thread? If so welcome, please stick with it and try not to be disheartened by any perceived failures. Just concentrate on your successes and taking it a day at a time. Also try not to be so hard on yourself, dealing with drink problems is a long process and we have to look on everything as part of our own personal journey.

Glowwormish, just keep trying, I'm sure you'll find something that interests you. I agree, it's a huge step to even try new things so well done.

Hello to daisy and funkydory for today. How is everyone else doing? Sorry if I've missed anyone out, I'm dog tired.

Gloworm - GO YOGA. It's relaxing and mediative and great for the soul. Just need some spacious joggers hun, your shoes will be off your feet in no time! Glad to hear your ok.

Daisy - I could've done with your help 13 years ago. I did mixed feeding as no one showed me how to get little one to latch on. More bottle than most, but breast was nice in it's own way. Nice to hear everything going so well.

Kokeshi - great to see you pop in and post. Lots of love.

and naswm - this really isn't the drinking thread. There is a bar in chat for that. I really wish you would get some help. Please?

Hope everyone else is well?

I had another sober night last night, owing to dd1 and dd2's fighting on Sunday. It wasn't by choice, but as soon as I got home, it was too late for the offy run crap...so went to bed early so not to even think about alcohol.
Appt with keyworker tomorrow and LFT test on Thursday. Nervous isn't the word. Am hoping the keyworker is more forthcoming this time? Can't say an awful lot about RL to her and I hate lying, but not gonna lie about the alcohol. I so want counselling though. I've been wanting that for years really.

Enough from me, am off to bed.
Keep posting!
Lots of love x x

Hey PurpleOne, what a lovely post from you too .

I really hope you make some headway with your keyworker. It's a really useful tool to move forward if you can build up a relationship of trust with someone who is completely objective and not directly involved in your life.

I'd say gauge how you get on but try to be as honest as possible (obviously protecting yourself as you need to. These people have heard it all before so IME they know when we're being less than honest! I'm sure it will be fine though, what you have in your favour is a drive to make your life better, motivation and commitment are also crucial in recovery.

Regarding the LFTs, pay specific attention the the GGT levels, those indicate alcohol induced damage to the cells. They may tell you about AST and ALT as well. But try not to worry toomuch, your liver has an amazing capacity to regenerate. Not that we should take it for granted though!

Sending you lots of positive vibes for tomorrow and thursday.

I hope the rain stays off tomorrow, we're clearing out the junk from the studio and have hired a skip to get it done quickly.

night.

Hope it goes well today Purple. x

hi to everyone else.

PurpleOne I am really offended by your post to me:

'and naswm - this really isn't the drinking thread. There is a bar in chat for that. I really wish you would get some help. Please?'

I posted two short sentences:

By naswm on Tue 17-Jun-08 21:15:30 hello all
By naswm on Tue 17-Jun-08 22:11:18 anyone? could do wtih a chat

And I found your response rude. I am very upset by it in fact

And doesnt the OP say:

'Welcome to the thread, the purpose of this is to give anyone who is having any trouble with their drinking, a safe place to come and post about it honestly and without judgement.

There are many of us that use the thread for support and encouragement: some in recovery, others just needing a place to share about their worries.

Everybody's welcome, no matter what stage your drinking is at.'

Well I no longer feel welcome

And for anyone who is interested, not that I need to justify myself, but I have sought help, and am having help, and have been for over a year now. I have many complex issue to deal with in my life (as many of us do) and it is taking me a while to tackle them all. Now I have said that I shall leave gracefully.

naswm

can we all make friends please? x

I didnt do fantastically well last night either but felt it was better than my worse I drank 4 small tiger beers but then felt like I had let myself down afterwards. Whats the blooody point

Hi all,

Ryobi. Just put yesterday behind you, there's absolutely no point on giving yourself a hard time, what would it achieve? You can't go and undo it. That's the great thing about getting up in the morning, you have a whole brand new 24 hours to do with what you like. Concentrate on the day in hand. What can you do differently? Look upon it as a learning experience and try to figure out what may have lead you to picking up the drink.

If you start to recognise your triggers, it won't be such an ordeal when you seemingly pick up a drink out of the blue. You can intervene before this happens. Do something different to distract yourself or just sit through that craving. They do pass and it gets easier with practice.

I wish you well.

How's everyone been today? My back is killing me, bloody hard work clearing out an art studio!

Hi Ryobi, welcome to the thread. How are you doing this evening?

Was going to post something interesting- well, attempt to- but my mind has gone to mush and DS1 has come down as he thinks he keeps seeing 'someone in his room'.

hi to everyone else, will be around for a while on and off if anyone wants to chat?

Just for the public thread, my keyworker told me to switch drinks. From lager / cider back to a bottle of wine? Yeah right! I'm best off the way I am just queitly reducing at my own pace.

naswm - I'm sorry you feel that way - but everytime you post here you are pissed and not seeming to even want to get help?, It doesn't help the rest of us sober, or spent a few months in detox. I'm sure youre a lovely person in RL, but you need to show you are helping yourself, instead of chatting here inebriated. It doesn't help the rest of us with plans in place.

Am angry at the keyworker, but am off to bed as I have an LFT at 9.30am.

G'night for now x x x

Hi everyone! Hope you're all OK.

PO, good luck with the results today. I'm certain everything will be fine and you can start putting you plans in place.

naswm, please don't leave - we all need you here, at our various stages. I, for one, would have chatted to you, had that not been waaaaaay past my bedtime . God knows, if no-one had spoken to me after I'd been drinking I'd never had made it to my first AA meeting. x

PurpleOne it annoys me when people (especially an expert) gives you well meaning advice My therapist told me I was making 'too big a deal' out of alcohol, which even now amazes me. I hope today goes okay for you. I will be thinking of you x

Did your ds settle down teasle? and do you have a visitor?

Thanks kokeshi too. I didnt drink anything last night at all. I tried to keep myself busy until dh came home (at 8pm) cooking (and eating), bathing kids and then I popped on here. Then when he came home I was doing washing and allsorts (is this quite normal?lol) I came to bed early though, about 9.30, and everytime I closed my eyes my mind was racing. Is this normal aswell? I have cancelled a day out with friends today as I know it will mean lunch in the pub and then i will want wine later aswell I seem to have alot of triggers actually

Well done to everyone else

I wasnt going to post here any more, but I did check in to see did there was any acknowkledgement to my posts yesterday.

Just for the record - PO you have me all wrong. And I dont wht you are set against me. After all, I dont even know you, in RL or on MN. Your post of 'evertime you post on here you are pissed' again is totally untrue. The previous time I had been on this thread was last week, after my trip to the dentist. I was not pissed. I was screwed up. I think I even said so. I was in an emotional mess (brought on by the dentist, due to phopbia since childhood abuse). I think I spoke then about the help I had been havng.

BUT the last thing I would ever want to do is to hinder those in recovery. I hope there are enough people here who know me in RL who know that. So I will stay off the thread now. (I cant believe K0keshi that you skimmed over my message when I referred directly to your OP)

But all I will say is: when you start the next support thread - please amend the OP to say that poster are not welcome to come on here if they have been drinking, or if they dont repeatedly 'show' they are getting help. And you certainly need to remove the everyone's welcome bit at the end. Becuase, it seems, even after what I have told you (ie by having explained myself) that I am not welcome. It seems you see my name and think 'oh she's pissed, she'll be a pita, or emotional so I'll ignore her and let her sort herself out.' Thanks guys

Hello my name's Naswm and I am an alcoholic, I went into rehab a year ago and have been in and out of recovery every since. I have been advised against another medical detox atm for personal reasons. My dh is critically ill and I am supporting him and my 2 DC. I am also trying to control my other addictions and am on various programmes to try to take control of my life. I suffer with a difficult mental health disorder for which help is very hardto obtain. I have been trying for many years but will continue to do so. I am very lonely and have few friends who can empathise because my situation is so complex. All I want(ed) to do was make friends and share worries and struggles.

Byee

Nx

There are no simple answers are there? There seem to be quite a few people here for whom alcohol is just part of the picture, so you are not alone, Naswm.

My dad phoned this morning and spoke to dh. Dh said he was in a concilitory mood and that he felt he was driving us out of the house and that he didn't know I had lymphodoema.

Had it not been for the sodding lymphodoema, we would be in Scotland by now.

Where is your studio, Kokeshi? I expect you already know, I had a WASPs studio in the old Wills fag factory of Alexandra Parade. It's now some super-doopa media place I'm told!

Years ago, just after I left college I had a studio in Queen St. It was a floor of an office building, full of dry rot and leaky windows, with a fabulously grumpy lift man!

BladeBla, WASPS HQ is still in Alexandra parade but I'm not sure if it's the same place? It's all jazzed up now, painted white and very sleek with lots of fab equipment. We're gonna have a look at their screen printing machinery to see if we can do a bit of outsourcing, we haven't been able to keep up recently as there are only two of us.

We have a WASPS space just outside Glasgow. I won't put the exact location as I'd prefer it to be anonymous to the WWW!

I didn't realise you were planning on moving back to Glasgow? Wow, I hope it works out for you. How is your health faring now? You've had a lot on your plate eh? It's good to see you posting again.

How's everyone today?