Hey Mr. Tangerine Man - 10 / 10 thread

[FrannyandZooey]

For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

Basic guidance on what constitutes a portion of fruit and veg here and you can download more detailed information by following the link at the very bottom of the page

blimey Boco you should change your dishwater more often gel

oh boco you numpty - how they were laughinh at you.

yes to photo.

but ditch water is not very dull - there are frogs and fish and stuff.

dishwater however, not as fun.

well will try to do one tomorrow
am wearing gym shorts now but I could see how much people would pay NOT to see photo of my thighs right now

I suspect it means dull as in dingy, grey and opaque
I am worried about Boco's washing up skills, frankly

Dull as in stagnant surely? In the ditch.

I 'd like to see your thighs Franny [hopeful]

I assumed dull as in stagnant rather than colour but am all in a confused way.

Boco tell us something nice that happened to you now.

I do demand.

it is weird not being here so much you know. When I come I have a real 'crashed the party' sensation.

Well I thought it meant dull as in not very interesting. Which dishwater isn't.

I bet Franny puts special sparkle dust in her washing up water though, to prevent the dull. And has rainbow bubbles.

I didn't know dull could mean stagnant. Can it?

I can't draw. I'm too tired and it's all gone wrong and I feel like dd1 when she can't do it and bites her pencil viciously and then flings it at the wall and throws herself backwards declaring the world a hateful place.

Mnyeh.

Don't be silly Bee, we miss you when you're not here.

oh i do love the drama of your children and the Mr Shackleton antics.

they are rather charming you know - well of course you do but there you go.

question time has started an dp is doing interested noises at the guests. but he did think steven dawkins was on but instead it is from dorking ahahahahaha.

I hope he goes to bed and I can watch something else.

Boco, you mustn't throw your pencil, you will break the lead [stern]
Take a deep breath then go and do something else. It is too late to be working.

oh toot i stayed in your youth hostel last night and had a drink by the river - was glorious. Youth hostel is vile but i love the building so much i put up with it.

Oh I crossed posts.

Shall I tell you something nice?
I went to a lovely tea party this evening with some nice friends and had cake. That was nice. And at bedtime I made dds laugh so hard they had tears rolling down their faces and dd2 fell on the floor and rolled about with the most exhausted and helpless giggle. It was great.

Bee we must be organised and meet up one day.

Dd2 got the giggles earlier when we were rolling a ball between each other's legs. Then she said she needed a wee, lifted her dress (no knickers) and weed. In the front garden. It ran under her toes and she was fascinated. She has a thing about weeing outside

Beee! I haven't been here much recently either.

How was youth hostel stay? Were you in a dormitory?

Aw Boco that sounds lovely. I adore those peals of laughter when they get all helpless and have to grab their tiny tummies.

hello all.

We have spent the last few days in the garden, planting and digging and throwing water about. The blossom is fabulous and dcs are so impressed that the things they have out in the ground as seeds are now little green things! DD has taken important role of plant protector and waterer. DS has taken just as important role of moving seemingly random pieces of mud around.

We have gourged ourselves on fruit and salad and bbqs.

fruit salad - nectarine, grapes, orange, apple
pasta with courgettes and tomatoes and avocado salad
salmon rice with asparagus and sweetcorn.
Another nectrine and some raisins.

Toot! that is great. It is one of the brilliant things about summer isn't it? no knickers and weeing on the grass, ah, happy times.

yes - i like the dormitories because you meet good people. yesterday there was an american woman who wanted to lots of talking but knew lots about various youth hostels in the world and it went on for many hours.

my light didn;t work so i couldn't read and lay trapped in my own head.

Also the other week i bumped into the youth that i met when i squealed about your news in the library and he remembered and asked how you were doing.

he is 19 and has floppy hair and studies aome humanities or science kind of thing. He is nice.

at garden joys. But then again, the boys and I were in Lovely Botanic Garden again today, wading through streams and fallen blossom.

Have had a difficult evening ds2-wise and am feeding him to sleep again.

Franny, do push-up bf bras exist then? I don't usually wear a bra at all - I'm tandem feeding, FFS, and still minuscule of nork - feel somewhat cheated by nature.

Apple, banana, OJ, watermelon. For lunch and dinner pasta with various veg (orange and green pepper, tomato, rocket). Fallen quite a bit short today.

Tandem feeding Bero?
When I was young and utterly clueless I thought the world would disapprove of me terribly just for bf while pg. Tandem feeding must be very special, if challenging.

Hello Slur

It is both TooT. It really really really helped ds1 through the early weeks, IMO. And I have pictures from ds2's first afternoon in the hospital bed with them both feeding away that I will always treasure. Somehow over the last few months I've found the way I feel physically about feeding ds1 to have changed - I find it much more difficult on a sort of psychophysical level - have no idea why - but am determined to stick it out and let him self-wean. They are so different - I could always solve all ds1's unhappinesses by offering him a feed - whereas even now ds2 will only really want to feed if he's actually hungry - he will only very occasionally accept it for pure comfort. Sometimes I imagine ds2 self-weaning before ds1

That is interesting. I know what you mean about the way you feel about bf a child changing. Only natural I suppose.
Dd1 weaned with a small struggle at 2 and a bit.
Ds1 weaned with big struggle at 18m. I still feel bad about stopping but he was so hungry and demanding, sucking in vast mouthfuls of breast, and I was so tired and had nobody I could talk to about it.
Ds2 weaned at nearly 3, with help.
Dd2 still going strong at 2.10.
Wonder if we'll get to self weaning point before I hit desperation?

sorryyou had weaning struggles, and that you were so tired and had no support . Is bf wearing you down particularly now?
Tbh one of my reasons for wanting ds1 to self-wean is that it's the path of least resistance. He asks for milk every day, occasionally several times a day, he's not ready to stop yet (he's three next week) and I can't imagine him being so in the foreseeable future. When I went through a phase a couple of months ago in which I was finding it particularly hard to feed him, I would sometimes try and get him to stop if he went on too long and he would cry and say 'You're not being gentle to me' It was hard for a while because for ds2's first 4 or 5 months he (ds1) would want to feed 6 or 7 times a day and I really missed the moment, so to speak, to introduce a restriction to certain times of the day or whatever.

No, it's mostly okay atm but I do feel edgy when she asks in public these days. Sometimes I have that sort of chewed feeling though. But it is SO useful - like when we had to stay in hospital with ds2, or when she's ill.