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When you say it's going to ripen now......well when exactly do you mean? - 10 / 10 thread - all welcome

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FrannyandZooey · 07/04/2008 07:58

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eternalstudent · 08/04/2008 10:58

How old is DS2 MrsC?

I didn't do the co-sleeping thing with DD, but I rememeber when she was about 8 months she suddenly started wanting to be fed ever 1.5 hours. I put up with it for a while (as you do) but eventually went to the HV and said 'aaarrrgghh! what do I do' her advice was to stop feeding her. Worked a charm. After 2 nights of misery and lots of soothing / ignoring her bellows of rage she stopped.

I had to do it as was going back to work the next wk. She's slept through (more or less) ever since.

Prob not much help to you as she was in a cot.

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FrannyandZooey · 08/04/2008 11:08

for yogurt and peas

zippi hurrah! he does have a very mobile face and we liked it and the camera did too and they kept cutting to him for a reaction shot

Bee the authors didn't even know who Robbie Burns was
too scientific my anus

MrsC the hospital pump thing will be fab and very effective hopefully so that you can pump to keep up supply while in there
I had morphine when ds was tiny I didn't know it was morphine but OH MY GOD it was good. I mean of course you do not want to be having an op and severe pain but if you have to be in severe pain then OMG morphine is nice
and they didn't say a thing about bfing ds and I did
and he is ok
I think

anyway I would phone someone very clever like BFN who know all about drugs and bf and they can give you a plan and then you can tell hosp what you need and make them do it

gosh I think I channelled Anne there

about the co-sleeping and night waking - I am wrong person to ask - we never cracked it until he went into own bed aged 3
I did read No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers and thought it very good, but I honestly couldn't be arsed to do all the things she said
so I just resigned myself to muddling through
I think if you are practical type you could fix it with eg No Cry Sleep Solution or Dr Jay Gordon which I will link to in a minute

have made colossal veg stew with parsnips, swede, carrots, cauli, mushrooms, onion, lentils, kidney beans and tomatoes
HAH
that is lunch sorted

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FrannyandZooey · 08/04/2008 11:10

Dr Jay Gordon changing the sleep pattern in the family bed

sorry for epic post and all the smilies
I will write "I am blushing" in future then you don't have to look at all those stupid faces every time I post

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TooTicky · 08/04/2008 11:21

I'm pretty sure I had morphine after CS - still bf dd1, I was young and clueless of course but nobody said it would be a bad idea.

MrsC, will ds2 still be able to co-sleep with dh and have lots of comfort and cuddles at night? This will help a lot and he may not think about bf.

The beanburgers were just sort of made up - mashed beans, added quite a bit of some elderly curry seasoning stuff I found, pinch of cloves, couldn't remembwer if I'd put salt in so didn't, but it could have done with some I think. Oh, and a tsp of tahini because it's good for binding.

I'm hungry.

MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 11:26

Sorry, had to go out briefly.

He is nearly fifteen months and I think everyone will say, oh you don't need to feed him any more anyway, good excuse to stop etc.

I don't particularly want to stop if he's happy but I do not want to wake up throughout the night. He naps in his cot and starts off the night there and then comes in our bed during the night and I can never be bothered to put him back even though it's right next to me. There isn't a room for him.

Do you think the hospital will give me a pump? I've never done expressing very well, used to do a bit by hand with ds1 but found it really hard. I guess I must have had morphine after the caesarian with DD, though maybe they just topped up the spinal? I can't remember.

It's more how he will cope with me not here, he has had a little rice milk in a cup of late but he does not see that as a replacement for his milk AT ALL.

lullabyloo · 08/04/2008 11:28

Conjunctivitis anyone?
am bathing with cooled boiled water..but ds is coldy,coughy & his eyes are almost shut & very red & slimey

MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 11:29

He will sleep in with DH I expect but he has never not had me there and bf when he wanted. Maybe he won't be fussed if I'm not there but I can't see it, or maybe I am viewing myself as irreplaceable and he will be fine.

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FrannyandZooey · 08/04/2008 11:33

poor Lully and ds
have you a friend that could give a squirt of breastmilk?
we seem a bit obsessed with bf today don't we

MrsC I would take copy of WHO guidelines about bf till 2 and be prepared to be annoying about it
not what you want when feeling vulnerable and unwell obviously
ask about visiting and find out whether you can see him several times a day to feed despite the meds
and find out if morphine is ok or not - BFN will know - many meds don't really have huge effect on older child anyway

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MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 11:36

euphrasia/eyebright? Cooled chamomile tea maybe

lullabyloo · 08/04/2008 11:37

God...I wish
We struggled from day one & crawled to 6mnths with me up every night expressing a measly 2oz that took over an hour..until ds finally gave up & wouldn't feed anymore

TooTicky · 08/04/2008 11:37

Lully, I would just carry on bathing with water as you say - fresh cotton wool for each eye, wipe from the corner outwards - I'm sure you're doing this anyway. Have noticed other people talking about conbjunctivitisd recently - maybe it's the time of year.
Dd2 has a slightly green-oozing eye atm but it's not sore.

MrsC, there is such a fine line between enjoying being indispensible and finding it slightly annoying/inconvenient at times.
I think he will be fine. I think he will miss you (obviously) but actually cope rather well.

As for the lots of feeding at night, I think this can go in phases. Being extra tired (physically not emotionally) or well-fed before bed can help.

lullabyloo · 08/04/2008 11:38

really mrs C?
I have the tea...

TooTicky · 08/04/2008 11:38

That is the, er, Polish version of the eye condition, obv.

MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 11:52

yes, I think chamomile is very soothing but the euphrasia tincture will really help, a few drops in some water, like Toot says though, cleaning them is probably the best thing.

Franny - did you wake up to feed several times a night until he was three? We have gone through phases where he sleeps from 11- 5 or 6 but at the moment he seems very restless.

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FrannyandZooey · 08/04/2008 12:02

yes we did
it was quite bad sometimes
he slept through about four times in his life I think, before he was 3

i am eating the stew i made, liquidised and diguised as soup, with really quite a lot of double cream in
I am blushing

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MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 12:20

That is very impressive, I fear I am not as patient and I have found myself feeling irritable towards him and not entirely pleased to see him in the morning which is not nice for anyone. He hasn't been eating much for dinner actually, perhaps that should be a starting point.

MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 12:22

That is very impressive, I fear I am not as patient and I have found myself feeling irritable towards him and not entirely pleased to see him in the morning which is not nice for anyone. He hasn't been eating much for dinner actually, perhaps that should be a starting point.

Boco · 08/04/2008 12:38

dd2 was the same, and I was not laid back about it at all and got a bit fed up of the 2 hourly wakings. In the end I decided that no matter what I wouldn't feed her between bedtime and six am and it took her a few days to believe me and she was cross but eventually she stopped waking. But she was nearly 3.

TooTicky · 08/04/2008 13:04

It is a v. hungry time of year though. Cold weather, plus chiukldren are gearing up for their spring growth spurt...

TooTicky · 08/04/2008 13:05

What IS it with my typing todfay?

TooTicky · 08/04/2008 13:05

today

MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 13:25

true, Toot, I am starving myself today but he should eat more dinner goddamit.

Boco - yes, he might be a bit young for complete denial, I can't bear the thought of this until he is three though. Maybe I will try a get a nicer cup for the rice milk and encourage that in the day at least. He is fast asleep now, catching up on hi broken night I expect. Actually he i wanting to snack a lot in the day too. I am Going To Be Stricter. I am.

Boco · 08/04/2008 13:31

I know the denial thing is hard and you can't do it unless it's really what you need to do. But remember it wouldn't be total denial anyway, only denial during the hours that you want to be asleep, the rest of the time he can feed when he wants can't he, and he might eat more actual food. With dd it was comfort more than hunger, but she did eat better when she wasn't feeding in the night.

TooTicky · 08/04/2008 13:39

MrsC, WHY are you starving yourself? Eat. It is cold. I am siupposed to be doing things in the garden but every time I nearly go outside I finnd myself cutting another slice of fruit bread. And the kettle has just boiled, and it's not as sunny as it was.

MrsCarrot · 08/04/2008 13:42

yes, you're right. It's hard when they're bigger though isn't it, when they can actually get it for themselves? He's quite good at deftly placing himself in the optimum position and short of sleeping in a polo neck... I could resolutely lie on my front I suppose. It's hard not to think that he will translate it as denied love though.