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Dependent Drinkers and Alcoholics (recovering or active) Support Thread II?

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kokeshi · 28/11/2007 12:14

Welcome to the thread, the purpose of this is to give anyone, who is having any trouble with their drinking, to come and post about it honestly and without judgement.

There are many of us that use the thread for support and encouragement: some in recovery, others just needing a place to share about their worries. It's been going on in one form of another for a while now and has helped many people.

Everybody's welcome, no matter what stage your drinking is at.

Jump right in, the water's fine

OP posts:
PurpleOne · 30/01/2008 00:00

and I don't dance around my living room anymore either.
Haven't danced for 6 moths, maybe more. Just kinda lost interest and wanted to go to bed, but the drink never let me do it.?
I still stayed up....until after 5am on a school night.

Got totally sick of oversleeping on school runs and being late for work....plus an AA meeting that gave me the kick up the arse I really needed?
It's hard to even drink now without feeling guilty?

This thread and the AA meeting. I know I'm making progress in my heart and spirit, but I know I'm also letting people down at AA, and also on this thread?
Yet I don't even know any of you in RL.
And that's what my physical body, emotional body and spiritual mind just CRAVES.

Contact?

OrnamentalHaggis · 30/01/2008 00:32

PurpleOne, are you at the stage to give it away yet? I don't think anything will change for you until you are ready yourself. The thing with recovery is, it's a daily deal. Each day we can make a decision to be sober and the best that we can be. None of us would be able to go to one or two meetings and have all our life problems sorted. It's just the beginning, so don't feel disheartened. If you keep at it, like teasle said, put as much effort into your recovery as you do with drinking, then you definitely WILL see results. Being sober is a truly wonderful experience, it just requires a wee bit of hard work and commitment to change.

You're not letting anyone down on this thread or in the AA meetings. They'll all be there when you're ready to go back and deal with it, but you have to be ready to let it go. There's only ever one person you'd be letting down. That's yourself. If you think of the higher power that AA talks about, as the highest level of consciousness that you are capable of, would this work for you?

PurpleOne · 30/01/2008 01:13

Koi

Am crying here.

I want to give it away, but it don't want to let me go? I know it's a daily deal, it's the very thing I've been fighting with for weeks since being in this thread.
More so recently.

I know that being sober is a truly wonderful experience, I've seen it recently and attacked the gasman and credit card baliff at my door that I'd usally hide from. I've loved every minute of it, even though I'm not sober.
Being a mother is wonderful...have booked High School Musical stage tickets. Am sober, and my kids said 'thanks' to me for being sober and finally bokking it.

My God why am I in tears?

But truly there is no one here in RL, nor really in cyber either. My only support is me and exh.

Just battling the loneliness is so fucking hard.? I'm off to bed right now, love to all. Great to hear from you all and please keep posting!

x x x x x

havalina · 30/01/2008 01:42

I know what you mean purpleone I have dealt with many things that I ignore when I am drinking. The loneliness is the hardest part for me, my dp is very uncommunicative and I have no friends.

I have just about sorted my IVA which will be a load off, but the no communication is awful. Sends a person insane.

PurpleOne · 30/01/2008 01:50

How do you deal with loneliness and debts hava?

My debts causd by loneliness and depression and drinking??

I'm not that far to have an IVF. but believe me when I say I'm a heavy drinker and have a CCJ?

You are all lucky to have a dp. Mine's in LA and I miss him like crazy.
AA for me again on Thurs x x x x

havalina · 30/01/2008 01:53

Lonliness ?? I just ignore really, feel like I can't connect with anybody. We are currently doing an IVA God hopes it works.

PurpleOne · 30/01/2008 02:03

(((just sending gentle hugs for now)))

Hugs hava, hugs BM and hugs evryone else xx

Thankyou koi x g'night for now x x

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 30/01/2008 02:31

Hello to everyone!
I have occasionally dropped in and read through your threads but never posted before.

I'm glad I've got the courage to now, as I am lapsing quite badly and hope you can help me snap myself out of it.

I just hope the others who know me on mumsnet don't judge me, when they have no idea what it is like!?

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 30/01/2008 03:47

I'm sorry but this will be very long. I have had the week from hell and am now up at 3am drinking wine (pretty good stuff, bought as a gift for a friend..) alone.
It is really making it all come flooding back.

Before I 'settled down' I had a well paid pretty crazy job that involved lots of travel. I was a PR manager for an obscure strand of a well known high street fashion company. At that point in my life it was the job of my dreams, I was paid to wear clothes, to go to parties, travel abroad for meetings and generally hang out with the 'cool crowd'. I also wrote some columns.

Needless to say alcohol was a big part of this. There were even occasions when we'd be drinking in the office at noon. I also dabbled in some other things, but thankfully have found it very easy to avoid them now. I don't miss that at all.

I then got married and soon after had my first child. As soon as I knew I was pregnant I felt shunned at work, everyone soon guessed as I was the only one turning down the drinks/drugs/party until 5am etc. I was made to feel like a party pooper .
At 18 weeks I decided to take early maternity leave and quit, hoping I could do some work from home. DH fully supported this, but still continued his own hectic work/social life.

I spent many days in bed with little to motivate me to get up for.

I also seriously missed drinking. I really, worryingly , looked forward to fridays when I would treat myself to a glass of wine. I lost touch with lots of 'friends' and ended up barely leaving the house.
I threw myself into all sorts of 'projects' to occupy myself, such as the time I amazed my DH by single handedly striping and waxing our entire staircase and woodwork in one weekend.

After the birth I did the same, I booked into every class going and really overdid it. Then I had a near breakdown. I was packing the babybag one day and burst into tears. I felt oddly detached and as if I was not myself. I called my friend to cancel our meet up (the first of many many times, thanks to her for her patience with me..) and decided I really needed a glass of wine. This was 11am and I then finished the bottle. DS was asleep in his cot and I fell asleep on the sofa. I woke up an hour or so later and wandered out to the shops and bought 2 more bottles of wine. It never even occured to me that I had a child I was fully responsible for...
DH came home and found me asleep in bed, empty wine bottles in the living room and DS crying in his bed. It makes me feel sick to think of it now.

After that I somehow changed and I didn't take that as a wake up call, I just retreated into myself. I would make cocktails at midday and drink them alone, somehow thinking this was more 'acceptable'. I once even took neat vodka in an evian bottle to a toddler group (having drunk three glasses of wine beforehand) It is horrible to think that I compromised DS's safety and didn't even consider it at the time.

It got to the point where I couldn't even make a phonecall before having a couple of drinks, even to my closest friends.

All of this was hidden from DH and he still doesn't know the full extent of it.

There were three occasions that made me really realise I needed to change. Although of course it didn't quite sink in to begin with.

The first was in our local shop , early afternoon when I was buying a bottle of cognac. The old man in front of me was counting out coppers and haggling over a can of cheap cider. My snap judgment was 'pitiful tramp'. I then realised I was no different and that could be me down the line. I left the shop without the booze, though later I was sorely tempted to drink some of the beers DH brought home.

The second was a night we had friends over for dinner. At this point I had controlled things to the extent that I only drank when DH was home, but I also did most of it secretly. We were all fairly drunk and having a good evening, then my friends girlfriend came back from the bathroom. She was waving an empty wine bottle that she had found in the bathroom cupboard whilst looking for a fresh towel. 'How bizarre' she said. And lets not even get into how she could have more tactfully handled the sitation. I can barely remember the pitiful excuse I came up with, something along the lines of, must have fallen out of the bin into the laundry pile.

After this DH stepped in to try and 'help' me control it. Sadly his method meant giving me a stricly daily budget in cash, demanding receipts and witholding my cards. This just had a negative effect on my moods and self esteem and I always found ways around it.

The third, and most important was thanks to my health visitor. DS had a development check at 4pm and, feeling anxious, I opened some wine. I thought I'd 'covered my tracks' but just as she left, she gently said 'I see many mothers, and many mothers who I am surprised to find will have a gin and tonic or two in the afternoon, just remember these things are always picked up on by health professionals, so please be careful'.

It somehow really woke me up out of the fog I had been living in.

I then went totally teetotal for almost a year, then started drinking 'socially', and have generally been fairly 'good'.

I can just feel myself sliding again and want to stop before i end up back there.

justwaterformethanks · 30/01/2008 09:26

Morning everyone ,sorry i missed you all last night ,thats the problem with sobriety ,ive suddenly founds Ive lots to do ! Hava dont worry about not making deep profound relationships online , that 6'4 architect is probably a midget called Barry living in mid glamorgan Nobody on here gives a toss what you look like in RL ,post and run away if you feel like it ,we dont mind and just accept you as you are ,obviousley in Rl i am a Kate Moss look alike (ok more like pikey chic than junkie chic !).
Devil wears ,wow youve been through it havent you ,why do you feel your sliding downhill again? has a particular event set it off or has your social drinking just turned to home drinking again?
Cant really explain why i developed a problem,been drinking relatively heavily for the last 18months ,I used to kid myself it was a habit (yeah one that would kill me!),that the rest of the world was opening a bottle of wine at 6pm every night. One of the things that really made me think was the secret santa gift i got from work ,a wooden sign with the words ' washing in the basket,pots in the sink,i will do it all tomorrow ,right now i need a drink'.Ive always been really jokey about my drinking at work ,quite open about how much i was drinking ,only one of my colleagues questioned it ,and asked if i really did drink a bottle of wine a night ( tellingly her father was an alcoholic) but of course I denied it and said 'oh no not every night ,ha ha 'I think part of me wanted someone to pull me up on it ,but they never did .My light bulb moment was when i thought 'if i tell people i have a problem ,i cant buy wine tonight ' thats when i started posting on here.How did drinking make me feel ? I cant say i drank to blot anything out ,but it meant i didnt face up to anything while i was drinking . My DH is quite a critical person ,and often comes home with his business head on and talks to me like some lackey , I found drinking made this easier to deal with ,he turns situations round so he can blame me for his mistakes ,when im sober this is actually quite amusing and of course i laugh at his attempst and throw it right back at him . Our relationship has improved tenfold since I stopped drinking ,we talk and laugh now ,which i cant remember happing much in the last 18months, I feel like im back to who I was if that makes sense ? the urge to drink is still there ,last night when i went to the supermarket the first thing I thought when i walked through the door was of wine ,but i mananged to come away without any , I have to keep my guard up thats all . Sending Hugs to everyone on here because without you lot Id probably never of managed this far

justwaterformethanks · 30/01/2008 09:47

on a lighter note I have jsut been caught dancing round the kitchen with the dog to 'i will survive' by the postman, aaargh{grin]

teasle · 30/01/2008 09:57

HI everyone.
HI Devilwears. Your story sounds really familiar- I talk to loads of people who have similar stories, and welcome to the thread!
Its really good that you are recognising the signs that you are struggling again, and you have been really honest about your drinking and where it took you. One thing that helps me to stay sober is to NOY forget where the drinking took me- its easy to forget isn't it?

Can I just ask- what do YOU think you should do to tackle this? Also, whats led you to take that first drink again? You don't have to reply on the thread, it just sometimes helps to think things through.

Please keep posting!
Hopefully ornyhag or whatever she's calling herslf today will say the things I want to say, she has a certain knack, you know.

hi Justwater!

teasle · 30/01/2008 09:58

I mean NOT forget, not noy.

OrnamentalHaggis · 30/01/2008 11:37

Morning folks. Wow, the thread got busy in he wee small hours didn't it?

Welcome to the thread TDWP and thanks for being so honest about your drinking history. So I think teasle hit the nail on the head with her question, what do you consider to be the next step? Obviously, your DH has the best of intentions but, yeah, that would do my head in as well. Did being teetotal work for you, I mean was it easy enough for you to maintain once you'd made that decision? Keep posting and don't worry about anyone judging you, there are countless women out there doing exactly the same thing every night, but are just not at the stage of confronting their issues with drink yet. It's easier to hide behind a bottle of wine than make the significant changes to your life that sobriety requires.

PurpleOne, it's natural to go through a sort of grieving process for drink as well I think, it's been like a love affair for us for a long time. Here's an analogy for you, see if you can identify with this. Imagine drink as an abusive partner, you're absolutely totally besotted by him/her but you know that they're really bad for you. There will be a period of time where you put up with him/her, too scared of being alone, but in the end you can see the devastation s/he's causing and find the strength to boot him/her out. For a while, you are elated, you feel free and like you've achieved something. Then, after that initial high wears off you start to miss their company, remember all the good times and wonder if it was really so bad after all. You forget the abuse and may even take him/her back, but just end up back in exactly the same situation, feeling more guilty because you should have known better. The feeling of a 'lost love' is a common theme here,and none of us want to be alone. Like I said, it just takes time, and a willingness to finally push the drink out of your life and replace it with good things. You will develop friendships that are healthy, I have many many friends in AA now whom I see outside of meetings. Because I learned to socialise with them, it was a springboard for me to make new friends in sobriety who weren't in AA. So many people replace human contact with drink because if their domestic situation, havalina don't feel like you're alone. Everyone on this thread understands where you're coming from.

JWFMT, it's great that you're so upbeat, and are realising how being sober is changing the 'balance of power' in your own relationship. Keep posting.

justwaterformethanks · 30/01/2008 12:05

Hi Koi ,yes i am sickeningly upbeat today ,so much so that i shall avoid the thread for fear of making you all sick .

teasle · 30/01/2008 12:54

Hey ornhag- I really got the analogy- especially the bit about after you have been sober for a while, remembering the good times!(Funny how we tend to do that instead of remembering the bad isn't it?)
Hope everyone feels ok today. Its horrible to feel alone and in despair- I know I did for an awfully long time.

unhappy · 30/01/2008 13:45

Hello everyone - until 3 years ago I used to drink at weekends and even then only 1 or 2 glasses (wine). 3 years ago my relationship with DP kind of fell apart, even though we are still together - we havent had sex for 5 years - shocks me even now when I say that outloud. I started drinking more during the week then I used to - for the say the last year to 18 months I quite often drink a whole bottle to myself and usually hide this from DP etc etc I drink because I am so f..... lonely I dont want to feel anymore. I am at work and nearly in tears at my desk (so not good) cant post from home really dont want DP checking the history and realising its me - also very paranoid. I so want to be happy again - I know I need to stop drinking start exercising and treating myself a little kinder but keep on making excuses. So thats my story about why I drink its not about confidence etc as I had plenty of that before I kids the life and soul of any party - now I am a shadow of my former self quite literally

justwaterformethanks · 30/01/2008 15:24

Unhappy it sounds like your relationship with your DP has had a real impact on your self confidence ,are you happy with him or are you stuck with him? I think sometimes when we feel backed into a corner its easy to take solace in something which makes us forget everyday life even if only for a few hours . If you dont wish to discuss it you can tell me to sod off ,my wings are like a shield of steel

justwaterformethanks · 30/01/2008 15:27

Hang on a minute ,history ? whats that all about ? people can check what youve been doing on the computer ? Oh bugger ,ok my DH is a lovely kind handsome man ( hope he doesnt look down the thread) and im so lucky to have him

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 30/01/2008 15:36

You can opt to delete history, and even the drop down boxes that show which words have been typed into search engines.
Very handy.

PurpleOne · 30/01/2008 20:18

JWFMT

Click on tools up above, on the browser, go to internet options. In the box that pops up, right at the bottom it should say 'delete history'

Click it!

unhappy · 31/01/2008 09:21

Yeah but it kind of looks obvious if you constantly delete the history.

In answer to you Justforwater its a very complicated situation and getting more so by the day but we kind of get along as friends more than anything else ie. no sex - I dont want to lose him altogether as then I lose the family bit that I so enjoy. But really want to go too deep on this thread

unhappy · 31/01/2008 09:24

Dont want to go too deep!!! God I really should read before posting!!!

teasle · 31/01/2008 09:40

I hope you have people you CAN talk to, unhappy, because it really sounds like you need to have that support around you. I know nothing of your situation, but you sound like its really difficult, and really making you ..well...unhappy, I suppose, like your nickname states. That can't be easy to live with.

unhappy · 31/01/2008 10:55

I dont have anyone to talk to as I have only "really" talked to my best friend who unfortunately is someone I no longer want to be friends with - sad eh!!

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