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Dependent Drinkers and Alcoholics (recovering or active) Support Thread II?

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kokeshi · 28/11/2007 12:14

Welcome to the thread, the purpose of this is to give anyone, who is having any trouble with their drinking, to come and post about it honestly and without judgement.

There are many of us that use the thread for support and encouragement: some in recovery, others just needing a place to share about their worries. It's been going on in one form of another for a while now and has helped many people.

Everybody's welcome, no matter what stage your drinking is at.

Jump right in, the water's fine

OP posts:
justwaterformethanks · 24/01/2008 16:32

thats what this is for fio ,for a good vent My DH drinks every night but only a couple of whiskys , doesnt drink more because hes tight and doesnt like buying the stuff ,so trys make the ones i buy him at christmas /birhtdays lasts as long as possible !!! I think this 'one day at a time' is the best way of going about it , im hoping for a day when i stop thinking about it . Id like to be able to go back to being a social drinker ,but I need to get this habit beat first ,if i can

OrnamentalKoi · 24/01/2008 17:54

Is that wee figure's eyes blinking in the More Than ad? --->

Every time I look away it seems to blink, when I look back they're all just staring. Waaaah! It's creepy. Am I going insane? It's the 'mother' weeble thing. .

Obviously this will make no sense if the add is different on your browsers!

OrnamentalKoi · 24/01/2008 18:17

Fio, most alcholics have a family history of alcoholism, they've identified a strong genetic component in addiction. Also, if you were brought up this way, of course you learned that was how you did things. I remember you talking about your sister.Do you think you've dealt with that, or could this be a traumatic memory which you haven't come to terms with yet?

It's so true about having someone do stop drinking with. I am a case in point for that one. My late-H and I both facilitated each other's drinking when we were in Australia, and like you'd said Fio, no-one to say 'that's enough'. I was hospitalised and suicidal so I cam back home to get treatment. He kept drinking and hung himself. Tragic, and avoidable also.

But, now, happily I'm in a happy, healthy relationship with DP who is 14 years sober. Just as two performing alcoholics will drag each other down, two recovering ones can continue to grow and learn from each other. It definitely made a huge difference to me to have a supportive and sober partner.

Loads of us are trying to unravel ourselves from the past Fio, it's endemic in so many of us problems drinkers who were never taught how to deal with emotions. Keep posting missus, it's been too long!

JWFMT, that's exactly how it works. You put all your energies into doing the day-at-a-time thing, and then after a while, you realise that you've stopped counting and you haven't thought about drinking for quite some time. Impossible? I thought so too, but take it from someone who lived and breathed alcohol, it works if you put the work in and the rewards are infinite.

OrnamentalKoi · 24/01/2008 19:03

By the way, I just sat watching that More Than ad for about 5 minutes. The whole weeble family are blinking. (no, I really haven't had a drink today )

justwaterformethanks · 24/01/2008 19:16

ornkoi (cant be arsed sorry) weeble family ? what are they putting in your water in those parts ,mercury? has your skin gone blue ? You sound awfully well travelled australia,taiwan ,bet youve never been to skeggy ! Sorry about your exDH, im glad you got help when you needed it , everything clashes with jaundice

justwaterformethanks · 24/01/2008 19:20

God did i sound really glib about your exDH ? it must have been horrendous and your obviousley a strong and brave person to have got through it

hellobellosback · 24/01/2008 19:36

All my dad's side of the family used to smoke like chimneys, but then they all stopped apart from one, who still canes fags and drinks for Britain. She's nearly 70 and has barely a grey hair and her skin is still tight. Her slightly elder sister looks just like a witch

Anyway, I still teeter along the fine line of sinking into an alcoholic haze although since I got out of hospital I have been SO much better.

Today I went to the breast cancer art therapy group which was good. I don't like groups very much on the whole and have had a couple of REALLY bad experiences of group therapy! Anyway there are some really nice women. I find it quite difficult that the art therapists are older than I am. I have several friends from college who became art therapists so stuck in my mind is that they should be about my age!

justwaterformethanks · 24/01/2008 19:50

how does a breast cancer art therapy group work? Do you paint pictures ,you see that would be no good for me because im so crap at anything arty ,id be relagated to potatoe prints or finger painting .Sorry to hear you had such a bad time in group therapy

OrnamentalKoi · 24/01/2008 21:32

Don't worry JW, I know you weren't being glib.

Hellobellosback, that must be quite difficult for you if you don't like group therapy as this is the approach used by many treatments centres nowadays, especially for all things mental health related. I find it much easier now, but I was in the Priory a few years ago and it was all group based treatment...torture!

teasle · 24/01/2008 23:00

Ornamentalkoi- whats with all these craazzzeee name changes lady? You'll be getting tattoos and body piercings next.
Tut

teasle · 24/01/2008 23:00

Ornamentalkoi- whats with all these craazzzeee name changes lady? You'll be getting tattoos and body piercings next.
Tut

teasle · 24/01/2008 23:01

So freaked out I said it twice- look what its doing to me
(Messin with my mind man)

OrnamentalKoi · 24/01/2008 23:27

teasle: been there, done that

Hmm, maybe it's reflective of my entering into a new chapter perhaps?

How you doing? How's everyone else? Its a bit quiet on here tonight.

justwaterformethanks · 25/01/2008 08:20

Group therapy ,hows that work then ? does everyone else slag you off ? I imagine that if it was a big group it could be quite intimidating for some people ,or that others in the group might dominate the discussion. Not had any kind of therapy so ignorant in these matters
Had a talk with my DH last night explaining how I felt about alcohol and how I was trying to stop drinking .He said he had been worried about me for a while but was scared to say anything because he thought id become defensive and drink even more ,as if i would ,well ok i probably would of done when i had my drinking head on {grin] Feel alot better now we have talked ,he even volunteered to give up if I wanted him to ,but I told him that that wouldnt be necessary , I didnt drink because he did so he doesnt need to stop because I have .

wheredowegofromhere · 25/01/2008 10:41

I would like your input on this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/138/464384. I didn't post here as I didnt' want to thread crash.

Also, as kokeshi knows, I read your posts from time to time and it's brilliant to see you progress.

justwaterformethanks · 25/01/2008 11:30

please someone else help this lady because im sure my 'words of wisdom' are pants ,although well meaning !

dandycandyjellybean · 25/01/2008 12:08

Hi all. Haven't had time to read recent posts am just dashing off but wanted to let you know that I didn't drop out for 2 days deliberately. My front room where computer is looks like an explosion in a flat pack factory - trip to Ikea on Tuesday!!! Still pretty bad but at least I can actuall reach the computer - if only after performing several death defying leaps over mountains of precariously piled furniture parts!!
Still on 1/2 bottle gin a day, but have been drinking in a more measured way if that makes sense, not just open up, pour it in and guzzle it back iyswim? Will be back later if I can...

teasle · 25/01/2008 12:25

HI wheredowegofromhere, I'd agree probably that progress does seem unlikely, but could you give us a bit more background info?
Why is he cutting down- is it because he is recognising himself he has a problem and wants to change?- or is it because others are pushing him to?
Its just that the reason is important for progress. Has he also been referred to any alcohol services in his area- they often offewr counselling too, as well as information and reduction work.

Usually, unless you face up to the fact you have a drink problem yourself, you're not going to change, as it takes a deal of honesty and willingness.

Denial is strong in alcoholics, as I'm sure you're aware.

Does this help at all?

OrnamentalKoi · 25/01/2008 14:24

Hi folks,

How's everyone today?

wdwgfh, I posted on your other thread, but please use this one any time you like. All welcome

justwaterformethanks · 25/01/2008 14:42

You see I knew your words of wisdom would be soooo much better than my pants attempt ,do i get a gold star for trying? Ive been to the supermarket today ,forced myself to walk down the wine aisle and was fine ,a few twitches ,and i have now bought myself some organic fairtrade tea ( well if im being good to myself i shall share the joy with the world!) and some nice cordial stuff in an attempt to get my pulse down to below a hundred ! feeling very chuffed with myself and am friends with the bathroom scales again ! have lost 5lbs since last tuesday simply by not guzzling wine ! Hows everyone else ? Am i too chirpy for my own good and have driven you all away

teasle · 25/01/2008 14:52

I'm quite chirpy these days too, perhaps that only comes across in rl though.

Yes K is very good with words. Wouldn't catch her coming over all Attila the Hun like.

OrnamentalKoi · 25/01/2008 15:00

Och, away ye go! I'm only regurgitating what I've learned so yes, JWFMT, you get a gold star for originality . Well done for avoiding the booze aisle and you should be rewarding yourself with something lovely for all your efforts.

LOL at teasle. How to win friends and influence people eh? . I'm popping out in a wee bit to a meeting but will be back on later (and will reply to your message teasle)

OrnamentalKoi · 25/01/2008 15:02

Hi again cubby, I love Ikea flatpacks! I find them strangely therapeutic.

OrnamentalKoi · 26/01/2008 19:25

Hi all, how's it going this weekend for everyone?

OrnamentalKoi · 27/01/2008 10:28

Where's everyone gone then? Come on, sign in, even if you haven't done as well as you'd have liked. That's what this thread is for...

Dealing with problem drinking is a work in progress, no-one gets it right first time.

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