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This is the one where none of us fail! -Quitting fags thread.

439 replies

charliecatthenonsmoker · 15/10/2004 16:29

Waiting for some friends to join me!

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fionagib · 15/10/2004 16:51

cc of course I don't hate you daft ninny!!!

bit of a mad scramble here today with extra kids in house... what I meant was, most smokers probably feel vile enough about their habits, and I really don't think a quick puff in the garden is THAT bad - yeah I'd notice cos it's not what you'd expect, and I wouldn't do it (would be far too embarrassed) but if someone else did, um... but, but... blaugh buelgjaaa....

(am not pissed, just bunged up with cold here & not making sense! Red nose, pale mouth - lovely look).

Personally I alternate between drinking & bad all-round unhealthy living (late nights, manic smoking) to running and vitamins and juicing... no sense it it really, will prob be dead by 40th b'day J will have to clean up after party all by himself!

don't be lonely cc, am here thinking about you girls a lot, hoping you're sucking them chalky lozenges...

how's your resolve mm, strong I hope!

have lovely w'end all - am off for day on my own in glasgow tomorrow to buy party dress, yay! xxxx

charliecatthenonsmoker · 15/10/2004 17:00

Hello FG nice to see you!!!!!!!

How are you gonna stop when you do, not the patches I guess?? Are you gonna cold turkey it or suck it and see with me and MM??!!

Hope you get a nice party dress, and when your partys all over and done with we want piccys!!!!!!

Have looked for a card but have yet to find anything that fits...there no 39 year old fag ash lil on the outside and a 40 year old gazelle on the inside...dont know why it would be very popular

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minkmama · 15/10/2004 19:38

hey all,

glad you created a new thread cc, it's about time and what a good title!

i used to think the man in the advert said 'sacramen c' instead of 'suck em and see' as if it was a vitamin or something i was only a teenager then...and it was some kind of vitamin thing wasn't it?!!

am doing well today. too busy to notice, out all day with dh and boys. have realised that my other weakness is dh at home since he helps out but must ask 20 questions about 'where are the clothes, where is the food, where is my brain...?' and i know i should be grateful for a well-intentioned husband but sometimes it's just easier and quicker and no kids screaming as they wait IYKWIM

needed nicotine during bath time as the boys were screaming their lungs out and i was measuring up drill holes for a curtain pole whilst also being asked how to bathe both at the same time. so had a suck instead. wanted to shove the whole packet in i tell you.

gotta check if ds2 is okay and sleeping so will talk later.

oh, bought 'pretty in pink' dvd out of nostalgia and can't wait to watch it - fg, will remember it but i don't think you will cc seeing as you're a baby and everything it's like 20yrs old or something!

HAVE FUN FG with the shopping alone, what a luxury..enjoy every second!!!!

mummylove · 15/10/2004 20:04

hello

i dont really belong on here as i am a non smoker... well an ex smoker

just thought i would give you a little tip on giving up, go to your nearest large blockbusters and hire a video on heart transplants... i watched one whilst trying to give up a few years back.

as soon as i saw them remove an almost black piece of gunk that was supposed to be a heart and replace it with a plump healthy red one i knew i would never go back - that image stayed with me... well it worked for me anyway.

minkmama · 15/10/2004 20:27

wow, thanks for the tip mummylove. is there a particular one to watch? i find the new british heart foundation ads v. inspiring, quite disgusting what we put into our bodies. there's one poster with a cigarette cut open and inside instead of tobacco is this gooey cream stuff that basically clogs up our hearts. if i could get a copy of that i'd stick it up somewhere...

charliecatthenonsmoker · 15/10/2004 20:33

You ARE joking Mummylove

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charliecatthenonsmoker · 15/10/2004 22:30

If you want to be completly sucked into a totally pointless act of wracking your brains girls try this
Coping ok. Read a bit of A.C in the bath as I want this to be the try that is the one and it made me LOL it was so hideously true and I must have skipped the chapter before.
It said ask any smoker if they will give you £1000 quid and then you buy then fags for the rest of thier lifes and A.C hasnt came across anyone that did/would.
It didnt say it, but I came to the conclusion its because ALL smokers would like to think they will have woken up one day not wanting to smoke by the time they have spent £1000 on fags but the truth is it doesnt happen. And they will have probably spent £10,000 on them by the time they even think of giving up.
Oh and ive asked my mum, if I ask her for a fag, to tell me to go away for 15 mins and think about it If i ask her for a fag when im due on next month..
As that is my testing time. Any cures folks?
Oh and also bumped into one of those...my uncle fred smoked till he was 91 and he was fine, he gave up at 91 and spent the last 5 years of his life feeling really ill was in better health when he did smoke...really makes me that does.
My mum, still smoking, well it gave her a glimmer of hope and reassured her she should still keep smoking. So i said Uncle Fred would have probably been dead at 91 if he hadnt stopped, and he must have stopped for some reason. Ok posted enough for a month xxx

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minkmama · 16/10/2004 00:30

did your uncle fred smoke roll-ups (am assuming he did for most of his smoking life, given his age) because there are a lot of uncle fred stories and apparently this is because it was pure tobacco with no chemicals like they plough into the ready-made ones nowadays. apparently it is this crap that kills us off now and that's why there won't be any more uncle freds....

have you seen 'the insider' with russell crowe? it's a heavy film about teh tobacco industry and how cocked up they are. good film though and really makes you wonder.

anyway, off to bed. you should tell your mum to give you those 15 mins anytime not just when you're on cc!!

night night xx

charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 09:37

It wasnt my Uncle Fred BTW it was someone who knew me and mum had gave up the fags that we had bumped into who said "Ohhh my uncle Fred....bl bla bla.."
I smoked the old rollys never did like proper fags, but of course would smoke them if there was nothing else, but even after just this past month of a few fags and more time off them than on them my lungs feels much less congested, as does my mouth, my teeth my throat and my feet have lost the frozen cold, theres no circulation getting to them feeling.
I have saw the insider, absoulty fantastic film. Watched it when I was smoking and it make me want to cry that I was still in my rut.
Whats your timer at?
Mine is 1 W 1 D 2mins and 42s ...AHHHHH.

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minkmama · 16/10/2004 17:52

mine's at 5d 17 hrs, the clock's great but don't you pop it up and think 'oh damn, thought it was way longer than THAT!'

sorry, missed the point about uncle fred, just read it literally!!

how are you doing today and why am i speaking to just you?!!!!!

This thread is called CharlieCatthenonsmoker and minkmama chatting to themselves again

charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 18:04

I think its just us because we are boring farts who talk of nothing but our desire to light up when the whole point of the thread is to give up;)
I am ok, been in the bath again reading A.C and tidied the garden instead of sitting out there throwing fag butts into it
What u been doing?

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charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 18:08

Reading Joels library few nuggets for us...feel free not to read them but I need the reminder!!

During World War II, in concentration camps in Germany, prisoners were not given enough food to fulfill minimum caloric nutritional requirements. They were literally starving to death. A common practice among smoking prisoners was to trade away their scarce supplies of life sustaining food for cigarettes. Even today, in underdeveloped countries, such as Bangladesh, parents with starving children barter away essential food for cigarettes. This is not normal behavior.

Hell heres the whole thing! Right here for when we need a reminder, or a distraction

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charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 18:15

For the benefits of newbies wondering if they will ever stop wanting a cigarette, I thought I would elaborate on the concept of "urges" that happen weeks, months or even years into a quit. When we say that the urge hits after any significant time period after being smoke free, it is a desire or a thought for a cigarette that is different than the physical "urge" experienced during initial withdrawal. Those urges are physiological craves, the body demanding nicotine to alleviate a drug withdrawal state.
The thoughts that happed down the road are triggers of fond memories. The thought is often that it seems like a good idea now to smoke a cigarette. Kind of like the urge you get to clean your house on a slow day. Seems like a good idea for a few seconds, but if you find something better to do, so be it. The same concept holds true for the thought of a cigarette.

Other times there will be thoughts of "I used to smoke when I did this." Not a desire for a cigarette or smoking, but a feeling that your timing or ritual is off. Sometimes there may even be a feeling that you are supposed to be doing "something" right now, but do not even realize what it is. All of a sudden you realize you used to smoke at this particular juncture of time or a specific new situation. Again, it is not that you want or need a cigarette in these two cases, just that the routine was a little off.

Years into a quit though, most days ex-smokers will go days, weeks and maybe even months without a thought. Even days which they call "bad" with desires, they may be going 23 hours and 59 minutes and 50 seconds without a thought, but because they think of it once, they think that was a lot. It really does get easier and easier.

The alternative side, smoking, is constantly riddled with thought of quitting. Whenever you are going to a doctor, a non-smoking friends or family home where you want to visit but cannot smoke, getting a new symptoms or aggravated by a chronic problem, read a news headline or hear a news report on television or radio on a new danger from smoking, have to pay another price increase for cigarettes, find another friend who has quit while you do not, stand outside in blizzards or heat waves or torrential downpour for the luxury of getting a quick fix or experience some horrible withdrawal because you can't escape for a cigarette or heaven forbid, you run out of cigarettes.

Yes there were plenty of times smoking made your life totally unmanageable. Not to mention the times that may come where a diagnosis of a horrible condition that require extraordinary measures to save your life that in themselves are almost as terrifying and painful as the disease itself. That unpleasant scenario still provides a chance of survival. There are frequently the cases where the first real symptom of a smoking induced illness is sudden death. Then you don't even have a chance to save your life.

As an ex-smoker, there may be times you want a cigarette. As a smoker, there will be times you want to quit. Neither side is perfect, but the ex-smoker side has clear advantages. It will get easier and easier over time getting to the point of smoking becoming a thing of the past. The smoking side leads to a much more ominous road.

Keep focused, whether it is hours into a quit or decades into a quit. It was a good decision to quit, maybe the most important decision you have made in your life as far as quality and length of your life goes. To keep the decision alive and continue to reap the benefit, always remember, Never Take Another Puff!

This needs to be read

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fionagib · 16/10/2004 21:23

Thank you for that CC!! It's all gonna be printed of & read again, probably obsessively, from Oct 25...

Yeah mm I LOVE pretty in pink!! All those brat pack movies. St Elmo's fire, the breakfast blub... I was madly in love with andrew McCarthy & would probably fall over in a dead faint even now if I saw him. You were still in a cot then cc!!! Who was your fave from those days mm?

are you mad at me for the smoking in garden stuff, cc?

had lovely shopping day, got wrap cardi thing & sequinned skirt, both black, realised when I got home the sales assistant put in a pair of suede boots which I didn't choose and didn't pay for, brief dilemma over whether to keep 'em but shop girl was so nice, helped me for nearly an hour (!) & I have this thing about bad karma - ie, keep the boots, and a slate will fall off our roof and kill me even before I succumb to a smoking related disease.

So the boots go back!
Even though I CAN cram my feet into them...

Am so impressed with your 'counter' scores girls, am gonna get on that system when I quit. Tick-tock.

Thanks for that mummylove - I do think that horrible facts, images etc all do help the non smoking cause...

v exciting eve for me - dh already snoring on sofa. Hmmph. A. McCarthy would never do that. I must be so damn exciting & desirable.

have a good eve girls xxxx

charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 21:35

Hello FG, its been soooooo lonely round ere!!!
I am not mad at all, maybe just been reading too much Allen Carr lol.
KEEP THE BOOTS. Put them on Ebay, think the other way, think they were put there for a reason. Go ON!!!!!!
Please do, I mean its not like you walked in there and nicked them because you wanted them, as some might, they were put in there by the sales assitant. Keep them!!!!!!!
I used to confess to getting the wrong, extra change etc in shops but i dont anymore. They couldnt give a monkeys if they rip you off, so just keep them ok....if you had dropped a fifty quid note on the floor do you think they would have made any effort to track you down? I think not!!!
the movies you two are disgussing are going right over my head so im just going to ignore those bits ok...I am even slightly too young to have been a Brosette FFS!

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minkmama · 16/10/2004 21:40

Thanks cc, hope you copied and pasted that and didn't type it all yourself ! i'm also going to print it out...i particularly like the bit about there being days when you want a fag and if a smoker days when you want to quit and how basically the grass being greener on the other side. That will definitely help me as there are so many times where you just think 'is it all worth it really, life is so short anyway and why not enjoy it?'

by the way, bad girl (CC that is) i went ot that mystery link of yours and am obsessed with it...spent ages on it and lost myself in the puzzle...will go back for more till i reach the end!!!

OH FG! I watched it last night whilst dh snoozed his way through it! the bit where andrew walks into the music shop and pulls his glasses up onto his head...I NEARLY DIED SWOONING! What eyes! What hair! What smile!!!

my fav was at one point andrew and also emilio, and even judd. i just went through everyone bar rob lowe as i was hormonal at that age my first love was michael j. fox though and i had a whole file on him and a picture i kissed so much that his mouth had faded away (and off centre too, but hey, my eyes were closed

i could go on forever...did you know that there isn't a dvd of the breakfast club? wonder why?!!!

sorry cc, will shut up now

night night girls off to play that game!!!!

minkmama · 16/10/2004 21:42

a brosette...the shame! i had grolsch tops on my dms

oh yeah and how on earth did you miss a pair of boots in your bag fg?!!!

minkmama · 16/10/2004 21:43

who did YOU fancy cc?

charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 21:52

I am of the era of rave music, i started early listening to No Limit NO NO NO no no no ...you know that one
Oh and Kylie and Jason...cringe.
My music tastes are only slightly better now, my fave is Roachford. I am currently listening to U2 With or without you with an ironic smile playing on my lips...the fag thing
I havent been back to that puzzle thing as it was really doing my head in. im on Alien level, what you on?

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charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 21:53

I fancy dp. Noone else really. Oh Dr green from ER hes lovely, and James Nesbitt.

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charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 21:55

Oh who did i fancy back then? Er there were a pile of really cool 18 year olds and one was called Steph, fancied him for ages...and he looked vaguely like Keanu Reeves who was plastered all over my walls as a teen. Im pissed.

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minkmama · 16/10/2004 21:59

dimbo here can't figure out the room with the lines and the head. caught the head and put the stones in the box....but ARRGGGHHH!

DON'T TELL ME HOW, HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF!!!!!

charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 22:05

I can give you a clue

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minkmama · 16/10/2004 22:08

PLEASE. AM DYING NOW.

charliecatthenonsmoker · 16/10/2004 22:13

first one move it twice, 2nd one once and third one twice again so theres a path for the rat. Click rat over hole on right hand side and then lower bridge

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