'Women on the Veg of Reason' 10/10 club - all welcome

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For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

Basic guidance on what constitutes a portion of fruit and veg here and you can download more detailed information by following the link at the very bottom of the page

Toot...I drank from 19-22 ...binge drank
I loved the manic extrovert people person I became....I flirted wildly,did everything out of character...just because I was hurting & wanted my now ex partner to realise he desperately loved me & really wanted to settle down,stop being a filandering bachelor & settle on a life with me.......

needless to say...he didn't & I just made him realise he had a lucky escape
I only had the odd glass of wine after the New years eve incident where I was dressed as mistletoe having had a rather too jolly night & slid off a pasting table into the punch bowl ....
havn't touched a drop since was pg.....it even smells foul now

maybe that is to do with my liver......hmmmmmmmmmmm

It didn't make me particularly extrovert, but it did stop me hiding in corners. I felt more valid with a pint glass in one hand and a roll up in the other.

Oh, house! I was wavering between visions of gold-plated garden hose and a doublet and hose obsession.

Avi you know I was thinking about that yesterday and it is hard to say, because I have them all the time, so I sort of don't notice them, but I thought they MIGHT be a tiny bit better. My liver enzymes came back still elevated at the last test but the doctors don't seem bothered at all.

Lully you must have spent a lot of time wondering what has caused this.

Drink stops me feeling shy and it stops me feeling tense and it stops me wanting to be in control all the time.

have never smoked....but discovered southern comfort....& then guinness when I lived in Ireland on & off for a year
I spent my young years adoring a man who didn't feel the same way about me....so I drank to blot out the hurt & flirt flirt flirt to make him jealous.....silly girl that I was

we are wonderful friends now though....he has been truly lovely

I had a bottle of ale recently (had to try it - was made with stinging nettles!) but it made me feel really awful for 2 days. I do have a very occasional bottle of organic cider - 2 or maybe 3 times a year.

franny.....the liver tumors are apparantly congenital & have grown & will continue to grow with me.....I also have gilberts disease which is hereditory
The lymphoedema is probably a resulting of falling 17ft out of the loft almost two years ago & sustaining trauma....but nobody really knows

Hah! No, got quite good at hiding it, haven't I?

Lully: "I spent my young years adoring a man who didn't feel the same way about me" The swine.

Oh god Lully! I didn't know all that. What happened in the loft?

Lully - did you find out about the place in Austria, which is the best place to go for Lymphoedema - they do best diet, best tights and massages etc etc. I did ask my friend about it and she told me but you went to Devon, and I've lost the piece of paper.

i will ask her again, unless you know about it already?

Just googled Gilbert's. That was one of the things one doctor said I might have. It's my bilirubin that's elevated, apparently. She said it the French way so I didn't click when you mentioned it.

franny......I spent five years 17-22 trying to make him love me.....but he is like a sieve.....pour in all you have to give but it constantly spills through the holes.....I blame his beastly mother.....as ever
When I gave up the torture...I couldn't face seeing or talking to him for years....tried to convince myself that I didn't care for him

Having ds made me realise it was ok to love & need him...but in a different capacity
We have a lovely realationship now that I have learned to accept his inadequacies and let go

Lully

unrequited love is the pits

yes franny my bilirubin is highly elevated too but albumin ok
I just had £1200 worth of bloods done to check for other sinister beastlies
the problem is that the largest two tumors are 12-13cm & acting like sumps making my heart work overtime

God Lullaby

just don't know what to say. Have you got anywhere looking at alternative treatments at all? Or does that seem futile at the moment?

Night Avi, I must go up too

i cannot spell tonight....soup for brain
literally....I crave miso all the time at the mo

100....yes i sent off for details of the clinic...sadly though treatment has to be ongoing & almost daily to be of any real; long term help.....the diet is something i am trying though.

franny....it was a little before christmas....i wanted dh to put the ladder up to the loft....he wasn't keen....it was bathtime for ds who was 15m old....i wanted decorations down to bedeck the tree so that ds would awaken to see it in it's glory.....
blah blah....we argue....dh puts up ladder,goes in sitting room,bangs door....I climb up,am climbing into loft when ladder slips & falls,I go with it & land face down on it

Hence smashed left side of face,shattered cheek bone,left orbital blow out & fracture,broken nose & jaw ,cut from nose to mouth etc etc

Going to A&E alone was my first time away from ds ever....
It broke my heart.....dh had never even changed his nappy

dear oh dear.....sound like a walking disaster dont I?
should be asleep...have to be up super early as dh has a press job & ds & I are hitching a lift to London for the day

Sunday we are doing A Day out with Thomas & picnic tea with the fat controller...wooooooooo hooooooooo

Lully - my friend goes once a year. When she's there, they make sure she's wearing the right compression garments, they are ordered and fitted properly. She also benefits from a week of intensive massaging etc, and this sets her up for the rest of the year.

The rest of the year though she does go to a local hospice who do the massages, and she even found someone to come to the house. It's not as good, because nobody is as knowledgeable, but she did say to tell you that the Clinic is the best in Europe and worth a visit because nobody here knows as much and it is worth going to get the compression bit right etc.

Anyway, that is very much FWIW.

night night lovelies....am taking my gloomy old body to bed pronto.....have a lovely w/e all

Bee.....take care sweetheart......take much arnica,rescue remedy & crying chocolate

Nobody's listening to me this evening. I have noticed this.

Anybody want to know anything? Clinics? Presents for lorry drivers? Avi's address?