The Invisible ...... Mango - 10 / 10 thread - all welcome

[FrannyandZooey]

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And i think you're both right actually. He thinks i'm a flappy funny and i make him feel amazingly competent and clever and that makes him want to help me. But a few things he's said makes me think he's left it open - not pushy, just strange things - like 'we need to find out what relaxes you and spend some time doing it together before the lessons - how would that be?' Maybe that is innocent, but if i was the sort of person who fancied a fling, i think it was an option. [boak] [boak-o]

Lots of vegetables but no exercise,.
Boco, my instincts say No! to Creepy Roger. At its best, the idea of a man getting off on one being nervious and unconfident is gross, at worst he could encourage you to drive to some rural spot and then pounce. Alarming.
PSW - my HV so angered me that I flung a geranium in a terracotta pot at her retreating form. It felt soooo good.
Boco - can you take a flower pot in your hand bag to crash over Creepy Roger's head if he gets too fresh?

eeeuuugh! Run over his foot. That'll dampen his enthusiasm....
I had a driving instructor who used to make terrible innuendo at me but I'm ok with that - especially if it's witty and punny IYKWIM. Yhen He started to tell me terrible things about his girlfriend. I pretended it was all ok and innocent until he got too near the knuckle. Whereupon I was very brave and assertive and said I thought it was innappropriate for him to say these things and I needed to make it plain that if he thought our relationship had potentitial to be anything but crap wanna-be driver and good instructor, I would save time now...he was a little embarrased and just said ok in a very small voice. I spent the rest of the that leson driving very fast and gear-crunchingly. We never referred to It again

Never did pass my test though

LOL at FMV driving 'fast and gear-crunchingly'. I feel very lucky and unusual on this thread. My driving instructor was very nice and mild-mannered and I passed first time (much to his astonishment I have to say!) I think his name was Pete.

Gosh Possum, did your HV know you were hurling pots at her?

Filthy have you given up trying?

I was once very assertive in a big meeting with lots of people - about funding and money - nothing interesting - but had to argue case - and there was a really attractive man there who was always at my bus stop, and i'd always smiled at him - and i didn't know he worked in this same area and i'd be arguing about funding with him - and then i had done my bit and had to leave - but the door wouldn't budge, and no one told me it was the wrong door - the one i was pushing had a table against it, - the one next to it lead into the same foyer - but i was so flustered by the combination of the funding and the attractive glad-eye man, that i just threw my whole body into ramming the door until the table had moved enough to squeeze my body through. And then i giggled / wept at the same time all the way back to the office. And started catching a bus from a different bus stop.

Avi, she turned up dirty and drunk to assess and pick up/hold my newborn, asked direct questions which I presume HVs have to ask indirectly but should note mainly through observation i/e/ "does your husband abuse you?" "do you take drugs?"
and about his talipes said, "you do realise he'll never walk".
I lived in a rough area at the time and I guess no one else wanted her job.
I aksed her to leave then in post partum rage hurled said flower pot.

Boco I don't think you should do it at all. I think the story about the free lessons is clearly bollocks. I think he is probably mostly harmless but not necessarily, and definitely not the sort of person you should be getting into a car on your own with every week for 2 hours. He wants to give you free lessons so that he can occasionally touch your thigh and hold your hand. You may or may not be ok with that, but if you are ok with it and you basically want to let someone give you £500 for letting them touch your thigh and hold your hand occasionally, then you should get a job doing that and make it completely up front. People do get non-sexual jobs as escorts, and earn proper money doing it. You could do that and I think it would be fine. But this Roger thing is really not fine. He's a liar and a creep and a perv and that's the very minimum he is. Don't spend time alone with him.

Thank God you said that, Franny.

Randy or not Roger makes my skin crawl. I want to swing my way down the road and hit him with a rolling pin and swipe you out of the car, Boco. Don't do it. It's not worth it.

Seriously Boco, and I hope I am not offending you by saying this, but I bet there are plenty of men who would pay you for the pleasure of your company and the occasional brush of thigh

if that would work for you then do it (and use the money to pay for lessons), but not this shifty "let's pretend I am giving you a driving lesson" sort of shit

I wouldn't either, Boco- creepy men and cars not a good combination, in my experience. Would be inclined to stay well away.
HV sounds woeful, Possum. Flowerpot well deserved!
Today I have had- banana (mashed with peanut butter!), carrot and kohlrabi salad, pear, raisins. Am about to have green beans and mixed frozen veg.

He is quite likely to make a great big pass at you, I think

or just slowly slowly increase the level of thigh touching to a point at which he has his hand in your pants, so to speak

I feel such a priss for saying you must not do it, when I can totally see about the money and the driving and the job and and and

but you can't Boco, you just can't. There are not many situations more prone to end in tears, or at the very least end up making you lose some respect for yourself

Oh good lord franny. Your post made me slightly hysterical. You do think i'm being a learner whore? Well no, it's not a job i've ever considered - the non-sexual escort thing. And no it won't be like being paid £500 to let him hold my hand etc because i'm going to approach it all more assertively and be clearer. I've so far dealt with it by brushing it off and being a bit embarrassed - but i'll just have to be better at it. And then if he does keep it up, then i'll stop having lessons. But there is currently no other way to learn to drive and the only other way to find a job is to move to a town, which may have to happen, but driving would change things hugely.

I'll shut up

I'm probably expressing myself v badly

sorry Boco

Have emailed you Boco rather than make more of a hash of what I am trying to say on here

Sorry again, and I am sure you will do just what is right in the situation - it is all so hard to judge anyway, when you know the full situation, and we are just getting a snapshot of it - it probably sounds worse than it is

I am going to the gym

I am having people come round. We were meant to go out, I forgot to get a babysitter, they said, we will come to you, we will bring a take-away, don't move, we are coming.

So now I must go clean the house.

I am currently in denial about driving.I keep saying I can't affrd to and even if I could drive, we couldn't afford to run two cars. But really, I have never really needed to drive as I live in a town centre. And I like walking and it's good for the boys. But I am mortified at being the age I am and not being able to do it. I have a pathalogical fear of driving (though I have been told I am quite a good driver) But as the boys get older, it is beginning to impact on my life...And I hate the fact that I am not truly an independant woman. And I felt so crap when we drove down to Cornwall and it took us almost 10 hours and I couldn't give my poor lovely DH a break.

Boco, I do understand you must feel you have no option other than to go with Dodgy Roger. But I don't buy his free lessons story. Please be careful. And good luck!

Have managed to consume, 1 Banana and a large Greek salad.

Will do better

Hello, TnOqu

FMV - that post could have been from me, I am having exactly the same issues as I never need to srive but dh has to do all of it and I feel bad, especially on our recent Cornwall and Edinburgh journey. I must see to it.

Boco - Every bit of me shouts NO as hardly anyone does anything for free and I doubt he's the exception, but you are a grown woman and you sound resolved to clamp down at the first sign of any nonsense, so good luck. I really wish you didn't feel you had to though. It's unfair and advantage taking at the very least.

We have just had Thai takeaway. Green curry, Pad Thai, sticky rice, spring greens, chilli fish and loads of dim sum type things. I look anout six months pregnant.

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Well we're about packed and ready to head off to Devon tomorrow, DS is v. excited, and so am I

Do you think he jam in a cream tea counts as a portion ?

Today has been ok, plums, a nectarine, salad for lunch & salad for supper.

Boco I think you need to get some background info on Roger. From what you have said on here, I think it sounds dodgy, being in a confined space with a leery bloke, I would say steer clear.

I do understand about the catch 22 with the lessons. Is there nothing you could do locally for a bit of extra cash? Local shop? Deliver free papers?

What you could do with I think is trying to find out a bit more about Roger and his reputation. can you tap into any local knowledge about him? Know anyone else who has learnt to drive with him?

Me too, FMV and MrsC, - I am always trying to convince myself I don't need to. Public transport is great. Might take it up in my old age!

I love you chaps! You all make me feel normal