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She Moves In Leguminous Ways - 10 / 10 thread - title by Olivia MNHQ

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FrannyandZooey · 30/07/2007 08:37

For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

Basic guidance on what constitutes a portion of fruit and veg here and you can download more detailed information by following the link at the very bottom of the page

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NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 21:57

Oh, thanks for posting pics, Frances. Yes, DS1 really is a shrinking violet.

Someone tried to film DS2 in the park today, and he just refused to talk to them or look at them, at all. But later, some dads were hanging around, and DS2 (and DS1) were climbing all over them.

lionheart · 01/08/2007 22:03

New traditions, reinvented traditions are important. Must be hard for your dad, though, and for you to be so far away.

lionheart · 01/08/2007 22:08

I like the idea of a phone number under the shirt and free range children.

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FrannyandZooey · 01/08/2007 22:28

Thanks PSW have put my head in there

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NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 22:39

I do sometimes write my mobile number on DS1's stomach, when I am nervous about misplacing him (I never have, though - well, he lost sight of me at a fair last weekend, and I came to get him while he was talking to someone about how he'd misplaced me).

He's only five now, anyway. When he's eight, I'm sure I'll get him to memorise my phone number and let him free range at these things.

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FrannyandZooey · 01/08/2007 22:41

The last festival thingy we went to, we taught ds what to do if lost, and he did wander off a bit further than he meant to. We could still see him, but he couldn't see us, and by the time we caught up with him he was bravely but shakily asking a woman "Excuse me, but I've lost my mummy and daddy"

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NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 22:44

Oh, and I made my gazpatcho, and I'm drinking a big cup now. And watching House.

I might have some ice cream after, I have been completely bloody exhausted today, and haven't eaten that much really.

Tomorrow morning, a (lovely, very trustworthy) nanny is coming at 9:30 to take them both away for the day. I will go for a run and have some proper 'me' time.

Last night, I did the put down on my own. Today I did the whole day on my own. Friday, DS1 is going off with a friend for a while, too.

DH is working straight through, so that he will be able to get out at a decent hour tomorrow and Friday. I am wavering between optimism and cheer that I will have help tomorrow night, and skepticism and annoyance.

Dear god, House is involving injecting needles into someone's eye. WTF! [needlephobe]

NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 22:45

I've told DS1 to stay still. And I hadn't said to talk to someone (I hadn't said not to), but he was talking to the bloke running the activity he'd been at. (I wandered off to talk to someone I knew - totally not his fault.)

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FrannyandZooey · 01/08/2007 22:47

I told ds to go up to a woman with children and say "excuse me I am lost"

I was proud of him

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lionheart · 01/08/2007 22:50

I know I will have to grapple with this in the future (and that I am a neurotic mummy on this particular issue)

but I was a very free ranging child.

NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 22:51

Ah, yes, I think I've said DS1 should go to people with kids, or people in charge or police.

I did have a chat with him today about trusting his instincts and not going off with people.

lionheart · 01/08/2007 22:56

My DS is a very open, chatty child but has lately been checking himself and asking, "Was it all right mummy, when I said that to the stranger".

I am not sure about this stranger danger formulation, at all (it's not something I've talked to him about specifically).

I don't want him to be fearful but I do want him to be canny.

lionheart · 01/08/2007 22:57

I added grannies to that list.

lionheart · 01/08/2007 23:03

See.

Grannies are lovely.

NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 23:07

I have poo-pooed the whole 'stranger danger' concept to DS1, tbh. I prefer 'a stranger is a friend you haven't met yet', tbh.

I do get a bit when he asks strange old ladies on trains for their phone numbers, though. (She handled it well - she claimed not to know what her phone number was. )

lionheart · 01/08/2007 23:13

lol

I've avoided the stranger danger thing but I think he's picked it up from somewhere else.

NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 23:15

I want to give him The Gift of Fear. I have told him that if someone makes him unhappy or nervous, or wants him to do something he doesn't like, he should talk to me about it. That seemed like the fairest way to get into it, without talking to him specifically about sexual abuse.

lionheart · 01/08/2007 23:17

That sounds good. My DS asked me what intuition was today, a possible opening there.

NotQuiteCockney · 01/08/2007 23:18

How old is your DS? Have you read The Gift of Fear? It's a bit American Annoying, but the essential concept (trust fear) is good.

womblingalong · 01/08/2007 23:30

Hi all,

F&Z, Thanks for the advice re food choices, I have been having an avocado fest recently, and am ravenous for filling stodge and summer fruit all the time at the moment. Today I have managed blueberries, necatarine, lettuce, apple, swede, carrot, celery, onion, hummous, carrot, cucumber, strawberries, aubergine, tomato. Walked to park and back with heavy double buggy & danced to salsa band with DD and am knackered.

Hope that LL you get to A&E tomorrow, your symptoms sound awful. Good Luck.

3&nomore, yes one tiny person is a handful, but I have 2, a DD1 2.11, and a DS 16wks, I have also been potty training and it is a nightmare!!!! I don't know how you mnage with 3!

Dolly - god it's knackering isn't it, I should be in bed trying to catch up on sleep, but this is the only me time I get on my own! Know what you mean about sweets, but I must resissssst!

lionheart · 02/08/2007 00:16

He is 5. That sounds interesting. I will look it up. Thanks

DollyPopsOut · 02/08/2007 04:24

Arrrrrrrrrrghhhh! Am having a nightmare! DD1 been up poorly since 1 and just gone off to sleep. Now DD2 is stirring. She never wakes in the night. Am feeling like a pile of poo. So tired, and sore throaty. Not even f and v can help me this evening...well, morning.

Sorry, just felt the need to share my lethargy with someone. The laptop is by my bed so I can feed and type at the same time.

LL, I am so sorry you are havibg a crap time . Hope you get some answers at A and E today. Take care.

NotQuiteCockney · 02/08/2007 06:49

Gift of Fear is more for adult women than children, iyswim, but I think the skills are transferrable.

Wombling, you are doing very well for someone who's had a second kid recently! At least there are all these lovely summer fruits to be tempted by.

I am having a bit of a shit time, DH came home after midnight last night, the theory being that he has now broken the back of the work that needs doing before we go away, and now will come home at a reasonable hour today and tomorrow. I waver between and at this. (I beleive that he isn't lying - he believes what he's saying.)

And of course I am up now, my guts woke me. I will eat some cereal and try to go back to sleep I think, so I can run when the nanny comes.

NotQuiteCockney · 02/08/2007 06:50

I'm sorry to hear about your nighttime problems, DPO - could you sleep tomorrow? What do you have planned?

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FrannyandZooey · 02/08/2007 08:17

Aw Dolly, that sounds really rough I am always pushing this on here, but if you can get hold of some elderberry extract, (from health shop or similar) it will boost your immune system mightily and reduce the length and severity of symptoms of anything that you do pick up.

Wombling, avocados, stodge and summer fruits sounds fantastic!

NQC I hope you are feeling ok now and that dh does appear at a sensible time tonight.

I have told ds that it's not ok to go off with anyone that you don't know "well" and feel ok with. We've talked about what kind of people are people we know well - people who we have known for some time, we have been to their house, etc. Not people we have just met, no matter how much we like them. He is actually quite cautious about being on his own with people, even friends of ours, so I respect that and encourage him to use his own judgement. I think the natural fear instinct you are talking about NQC, can get drowned out or ignored when we encourage (force?) our children to be left in the care of people who they are not totally comfortable with. It's hard for a child to get the message that they shouldn't go off with people they don't feel safe with, if we then leave them (at nursery or whatever) with people that they don't feel entirely safe with.

God we do digress

Have eaten melon, apple, raisins, pear. Going out to meet some friends in the park.

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