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Dependent Drinkers and Alcoholics (recovering or active) Support Thread

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BrassicMonkey · 24/06/2007 21:00

The last thread will close soon, but I want this one to be about everybody, not just me. So Hidesit, Earlgrey, SoSo and anyone else that needs support please post and keep me company.

I've lapsed again tonight, which is a shame as I hoped I'd be able to start this off on a postive note.

Link to the last thread.

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Judy1234 · 16/07/2007 18:22

Good luck tonight. I don't think you have to say anything much if you don't want to.

Elibean · 16/07/2007 18:46

BM, hope you have/had a good meeting - you sound determined about the 90 in 90, and I bet you can do it. Or near enough.

If you're on to your 5th by Friday I'll meet you at the Putney Womens' if you can make it

ps ditto again, re being brainwashed. Makes me laugh, now, as I have a very un-washable brain

kokeshi · 16/07/2007 19:01

Bestof luck BM, I for one am glad you've been honest with your DP, as it means that you'te not leaving yourself any outs wrt drinking secretly.

Anyhoo, I pretty much guessed that when you weren't posting you were drinking...I recognise the behaviour. But you should see this next chapter in your life as one of a positive challenge and one that you've read (from all our personal accounts) will be able to help.

If you don't find anyone to go with, it's actually quite an adventure taking control of your recovery. If we put a fraction of the amount of effort into our sobriety that we do obtaining and concealing drink, we're on to a winner.

If you're ever in Glasgow I'd be happy to go to a meeting with you too.

pinkteddy · 16/07/2007 19:26

Good luck for tonight BM. Hope the meeting goes well.

imaginaryfriend · 16/07/2007 21:04

Good luck BM. Keep fighting.

oyu · 16/07/2007 21:04

Good luck with the meetings and take each day at a time. There are lots of books produced by the AA and reading these have been really helpful both for me and my husband.

There is a blue book with stories from lots of different people and a book called "Living Sober" which were particularly helpful. There'll be someone there who can give you a copy I'm sure.

FirenzeandZooey · 16/07/2007 21:08

How are you Brassic? Did you manage to get there?

BrassicMonkey · 17/07/2007 00:07

Thanks so much everyone. It was lovely to log on here after the meeting tonight and read your messages.

I loved the meeting tonight ? I genuinely did . The men were heavily out-numbered and those that were there and who spoke were much gentler and easier to relate to than they were at the first meeting. I was absolutely shitting myself when I got out the car and I made EX-P and DS walk up to the doors with me. There was a pub opposite and I was bloody furious because I felt like I was going to the wrong venue. Chelsea is a lovely area (I think I should have known that before tonight seeing as I?ve lived in SW London all my life), the houses are beautiful, and the people standing outside the hall (particularly the women) were all manicured and polished and the men were city types (one had a cane ). My first reaction was ?oh shit, I?m not going to fit in here? and that feeling stayed with me even when people started to say hello and were being friendly.

I sat next to a lovely woman and she kept chatting and I was trying to be polite, but I was so uncomfortable about looking at her and I just felt repulsive and like I was ruining her night. She really made me laugh when she spoke up and shared a funny story about when she was drinking in her teens and everybody laughed and it was so much more relaxed and just easier to be there. I started to enjoy it a bit from then on.

I pretty much hated the first meeting I went to. It was in a dingy hall with a load of old men talking about fighting and having kids that they?ve never met and I wanted to run away or shout at the woman who took me there ?I?m not like these people?. Last week was a waste of time because I knew I was going to drink as soon as I got out. I wasn?t even really listening and I?d made my mind up before I went in that I?d get nothing from it ? and I didn?t.

There was so much that I related to, especially from one woman who kept referring to newcomers and kept on saying that she didn?t believe people when they said ?call me anytime?, ?come round anytime?, ?I?ve been thinking of you and wondering how you are?. She kept saying that she didn?t want to be a burden to people and how it?s only now that she really understands that they did mean what they were saying. And how when you?re drinking alcoholically you detest yourself so much and you get so used to being cut off/cutting yourself off because of how you?re treating people, and generally being hated by everyone that you can?t believe that anyone would really want to give you there telephone number and you think that if you actually ring it you?ll be met with someone who?s thinking ?oh I was only being polite. I didn?t actually want you phone me?. That?s exactly how I feel and I know it?s going to take ages before I unlearn those base feelings. I think it?s been a major trigger for me and it?s why I?m so lonely ? I need drink to be able to contact anyone, even emails are hard, even posting on here is hard (well, not this thread, but everywhere else on MN). Then when I do drink the loneliness in even more acute because people do avoid my calls and block me on MSN because I?m so unpredictable, angry and spiteful.

Sorry, this is a really long post, but I?m sort of buzzing and it feels really nice to share some positive feelings.

Elibean, I will be there on Friday. I think I?ll be doing evening meetings this week as EX-P has offered to drive me to them and have DS for me, so Putney is reachable. Then next week I?ll try and be a bit more independent. I know right now that the most important thing is for me to just get myself there.

Fio ? I do sort of have an AA buddy but I?m still convinced that I?m irritating her and being too needy. I?ve got more numbers now though so hopefully it will be easier to spread my neediness about a bit IYKWIM so I don?t feel like I?m wearing anyone down too much.

Thanks for reading this and for wishing me well

Oh, one more thing. Kokeshi, I?m relieved that I admitted it to EX-P as well. It?s a stupid thing really, but the bottles were really piling up and I was starting to panic about how I was ever going to get rid of them, especially because I was continuing to add to them. I actually felt very, very low yesterday, probably the worst state I?ve been in since I started the last thread and I really needed him to put his arms around me and just be here. It must have been awful for him because I carried on drinking in front of him and he told me today that I was shouting at him to get out and I was talking like I was going to kill myself. I have no memories of this at all, but I don?t remember going to bed last night either. Thanks for continuing to support me. I know I?ve got miles to go but for the first time I really, honestly feel like I?m going in the right direction and I?m beginning to want it. I never, ever, ever want to feel how I did yesterday or to wake up with the shame and horror that I had this morning.

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Quattrocento · 17/07/2007 00:09

Fantastic Brassic

imaginaryfriend · 17/07/2007 00:15

BM, well done. I was hoping to hear from you before I turn in for the night. Sleep well and soundly tonight, yes?

Oenophile · 17/07/2007 00:18

Well done Brassic. I've been worried about you - I've been there, I know how hard it is. So glad things went better for you tonight. Try not to be too hard on yourself - giving up alcohol is difficult even for those who are not addicted like we are/were, but you know you must do it and you've been brave enough to get help. Thinking of you with hope and optimism.

kokeshi · 17/07/2007 01:15

So pleased for you BM, keep it up and soon you will be feeling like one of the crowd in the Chelsea meetings!

Judy1234 · 17/07/2007 08:11

It's sounds like a better meeting for you than the other. Glad it went well.

FirenzeandZooey · 17/07/2007 08:53

Brassic good stuff. Keep on posting.

FioFioJane · 17/07/2007 09:15

I am glad it went well BM

Elibean · 17/07/2007 10:01

BM

Well done, you. I'm glad you tried another meeting, and that it was different for you. I can relate - my first meeting was in an old Portacabin in the back garden of a treatment centre, it was mostly 'old' (I thought at the time, being 25) men with cloth caps and Irish accents, and although I liked most of them, I didn't identify at all.

I think you'll find you like the Putney meeting. As I have an 8 month old, with occasional problems, I can't guarantee 100% I'll be there - but I do intend to be, and if I'm not going to be, I'll let you know in good time. Its in Gwendolen Avenue, in the big church on the corner of Upper Richmond Road, and starts at 8pm.

I'm sooo glad you told your ex-p - hard enough dealing with this illness wihtout support, and impossible to get well without getting honest, IME. Good on you, and glad you're getting his support.

Elibean · 17/07/2007 10:02

ps if you can hack a Chelsea meeting, you'll cope with any

Flowertop · 17/07/2007 10:08

BM well done. Really glad you went to the meeting. It's amazing that who is around you can make all the difference to how you feel. Obviously where you went for the meeting really works for you - keep going.
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kokeshi · 17/07/2007 10:12

So, what's your plan for the day BM? Found any meetings that take your fancy?

WideWebWitch · 17/07/2007 10:20

Bm, hi, I occasionally pop into this thread to see how you're doing and I'm so pleased to read that you went to a meeting and liked it. As you've seen, alcohol is no respecter of class or age or sex, it can affect anyone. My dad was an alcoholic and I went to a few AA meetings with him, I know he tried a lot before he found one he was comfortable with. They say take what you like and leave the rest, well done for finding something you liked abut the meeting. It's truly impressive that you've taken this first step.

BrassicMonkey · 17/07/2007 10:46

Thanks again everyone.

Elibean, I'll be there anyway, but totally understand if you can't make it.

Kokeshi - I'm browsing the WhereToFind link that you sent at the moment.

Right, going to Wimbledon. I?ll stop thinking about it now or I?ll get really anxious and worried. Wimbledon is easy for me on public transport, so I?ll get there by myself and ask EX-P to collect me.

DS had a great time, last night btw. EX-P took him to Buckingham Palace and he?s going to show his teacher the photos today . He wants to know when we are going to Arsenal next LOL, it?s just occurred to me that he probably thinks we are working our way through the premiership.

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kokeshi · 17/07/2007 11:16

Great! Hope you have a good meeting and find some identification.

Elibean · 17/07/2007 13:26

Good for you, BM. Have a good meeting, and hope to meet you on Friday

ps Kokeshi, if you're ever lolling around SW London with nothing to do, and fancy meeting up at a meeting, it would be a pleasure! Unlikely, I know, but hey.

kokeshi · 17/07/2007 14:23

That would be fantastic Elibean. Actually, I'm going down to Eastbourne at the end of July and will be passing through LOndon. I was thinking I could try and catch up with all you londoners. Depends on flights etc but have the details of the meetings.

How funny, a Mumsnet/AA meet-up.

Elibean · 17/07/2007 17:10

Cool. Let me know! Am a bit limited due to baby dd, but dh is a good man, am sure I can negotiate