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Get your Mooncups here for £15.28 including p+p

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FrannyandZooey · 08/04/2007 15:42

A few people have asked about this month's order so I thought I had better start a new thread.

(if you ordered last month, I have your Mooncup now and will be posting them on Wednesday 11th April )

If you would like one, please email me on frannyandzooey at india dot com.

The next order date will be May 1st, so the money would need to be in my account by then. I can only accept payment by bank transfer or Paypal (full details on how to do this will be sent when you email me).

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AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:25

yes, but i don't have to 'stick it' anywhere... i bring the neck of my womb down to meet the MC, it collects it and then wheechs back up inside. it's very efficient.

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:26

an "efficient" horizontal fanjo

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:27

tbh your cervix sounds like it belongs on a fork lift truck, going up and down like that

mine just sits there limply

I am going to have to give it a serious talking to, I can see that now

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hunkermunker · 20/04/2007 23:30

Forgot to C&P - here it is:

By hunkermunker on Thu 19-Apr-07 23:38:09
It was. And then some! I had period pain that lasted all month and just got worse when I was actually on. Couldn't walk just before my operation, it was so bad.

Childbirth was a doddle by comparison - truly (although I had straightforward births, to be fair).
By Twinklemegan on Thu 19-Apr-07 23:36:24
Blardy hell Hunker that sounds horrendous.
By Twinklemegan on Thu 19-Apr-07 23:35:43
Someone gave me one when I didn't have a microwave. Now I've got a microwave and I can't find the thing - perhaps I'll have another look.
By hunkermunker on Thu 19-Apr-07 23:35:10
Chocolate no good for period pain like I had it. No food at all helped for a bit. Anything moving through bowel that was strangulated with adhesions not a good plan. Endometriosis left me with raw patches inside that stuck and healed together and knotted everything together - my left ovary was covered with skin and invisible when the surgeon operated.

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:32

Jesus god hunker

am appalled for you

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AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:34

i had some endo-like pain after an op left me with adhesions... i thought i was dying. my sympathies, hunker. now, where's your cervix?

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:36

you are not getting your hands on mine, Mrs H

not by a long shot

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AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:36

pmsl at my forklift cervix. which is just as well, as a girl could have been quite hurt at the sniggering that's been going on about my horizontal fanjolele.

AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:37

i think i can see it Frank, just sitting there limply.

hunkermunker · 20/04/2007 23:39

LOL! My cervix is accessible, shall we say?

I've obsessed over ttc, you see.

Told I couldn't have children when I was 22 (have banged on about that before on here) because of wretched gluey insides.

It used to hurt to stand up straight, fgs. It PULLED when I did, or turned over in bed. I used to wake up screaming in pain because it felt like I was pulling my insides apart. Well, I guess I was.

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:39

"a girl could have been quite hurt at the sniggering that's been going on about my horizontal fanjolele"

Oh. Well if you were my sincere apologies as I will have seriously misjudged my posts.

I was aiming for a kind of mutual affectionate insulting banter. Greeny has gone to bed you see

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hunkermunker · 20/04/2007 23:41

I'm being quite the party pooper here, aren't I?

Oh, yes, there's my oft-quoted-by-DimpledThighs post where I talked about toddler groups singing "heads, shoulders, knees and cervix" on another "can you touch your cervix?" thread

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:41

Ruddy HELL hunker

[speechless]

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FrannyandZooey · 20/04/2007 23:43

Am going to bed but is nothing to do with either my shame at having been crass to Aitch or my fear of having to listen to more of Hunker's horror stories

I am fully prepared to come back and face up to both in the morning

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hunkermunker · 20/04/2007 23:43

What got me was the consultant saying "Have a baby, that'll cure you...of course, it's very unlikely you'll have a baby, given the extent of your endometriosis".

Nice.

AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:47

just joshing, although good to know that i am a freak inside and out.
oh, hunker, that pain... it was worst when i was pregnant, funnily enough. like i was being torn apart. i remember just hitting the ground in a friend's garden, unable to breathe or speak and trying to somehow beg my five-year-old neice to run and get dh while the three-year-old was crying and shouting 'what's wrong, aunty aitch?' awful.
my consultant, though, told me he'd operated on women whose insides were 'melted together' (his words) and then he'd done the ablation and they'd got pregnant. he said he'd done caesareans on some of them and had been amazed to see that the body was clean as a whistle after a pregnancy. rather sweetly he said 'the body wants to heal itself for the new baby'. what he meant, i suspect, was 'everythign is ripped to shreds again by the uterus expanding, kept apart so fewer adhesions can occur and so things are better for the next time'. i actually love that doctor, he spent a lot of his time being utterly amazed by the miracles of womens' bodies and their abilities to give birth. nice attitude, i thought.

AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:49

franny, you still there? i wasn't hurt, i was just kidding. should've anwered earlier but got caught up in a 'me, me, me' rant about adhesions. (although why i bothered because i can see that Hunker top trumped me again...)

AitchTwoOh · 20/04/2007 23:51

and yes, hunker, he was essentially saying 'have a baby, that'll cure you' but at least he was operating on them at the time...

hunkermunker · 21/04/2007 00:00

Aitch, I went through all that pain, I should at least be able to win a game of adhesions top trumps

The second surgeon I had (I researched specialists and requested a referral to the best in the country at the time because I am bolshy and lost trust in the one who told me Zoladex had no side effects - he neglected to mention it induced menopause...and he tried to explain what endometriosis was to me, when it was me who said I thought I had it and he said he doubted it was endo, but he hoped they found "something" just before I went to theatre )...anyway, the second surgeon I had, the first op he did on me, the endometriosis was on one side - stage 4, everywhere, totally knotted up - but with a clearly-defined line and none on the right.

He was amazed by how bad it was though - before the op he said he was confident he could give me five years clear of it, after the op, he came to see me, sat on the end of the bed and patted me sympathetically - and said he hoped I would be clear of it for two years. And then I took Provera which turned me into a psychopath And just under two years later, I had another operation for it.

AitchTwoOh · 21/04/2007 00:06

jesus... it's a terrible thing. i know someone who had pretty much lost her 'natural' fertility from it. and the pain she's in every month, after ablations and everything... well it's terrible. plus she's been ttc for many years, so there's all that emotional pain as well. hopefully she's getting IVF later in the year so everything is crossed.
i sometimes can't believe the shit women go through, you know. do they know what causes endo? or is it One Of THose Things?

hunkermunker · 21/04/2007 00:23

Oh, your poor friend Hope it goes well for her. I was so lucky that Clomid worked for me - think my surgeon was incredible too though - I took Clomid because I have PCOS to (count my blessings every night re gynae things, I do...!)

Various theories about what causes it - from tight trousers (FFS - was an article years ago saying that women in India didn't get endo as often and it had to be because they wore saris and not jeans - no mention of ethnicity, diet, more children therefore fewer periods doing the damage, etc, etc - really balanced piece. Think it was in the Daily Wail though... ) to more serious ones - retrograde menstruation (where menstrual blood and cells go up the fallopian tubes into the abdomen - where they implant and bleed and grow and stick everything together - but that happens to a lot of women and their bodies mop the cells up and get rid of them, so think it's got to be more than that.

I think it's probably got an autoimmune root - it seems a lot of women with it have chronic fatigue, allergies, other problems - I know I've had all sorts of things like that in the past. Basically my body hates me.

BonnieDarko · 21/04/2007 00:45

Here under another name, but it sounds like we could be twins

Took 7 years to produce dd(7).

Trying for another since then.

M/C 2004, operation 2005 for cysts.

Consultant said I was "sticky" inside. Ovaries stuck to bowel, all twisted. Cysts pressing down.

Had Clomid, no results, (but being sneaky have saved my last dose )

Always wanted a large family, but doesn't look like it's gonna be happening

hunkermunker · 21/04/2007 01:15

BD

Fingers crossed for you!

I also saved my last Clomid dose - sneaky or what?!

bonniedarko · 21/04/2007 01:22

Hunker, I think I need more than fingers crossed.

Am now 41 and contemplating Adopting/Fostering.

My last Clomid dose is like a talisman, and I don't want to actually take it

hunkermunker · 21/04/2007 01:27

When was your last surgery? Were you confident in your surgeon?

What do you mean by you're here under a different name? Who are you usually?

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