Cow milk and pus.

[Spidermama]

Google 'cow milk pus'.
I dare you.

Milk is NOT all its cracked up to be. It's time we took this seriously.

Also I'm seeing more and more evidence to back up my hunch that the onset of my ds's type 1 diabetes is linked to his dairy intolerance.

It's time we woke up to the white stuff. Most people are in denial and won't even consider that it could be anything but a good wholesome drink.

Take your pick.

Read what, exactly? These mad websites or proper peer reviewed studies?

Well, the ones on the first page are all clearly as I described - extreme propaganda websites from vegan animal liberation groups.
What exactly have I 'got bad'?

Sorrell you posted a link to some dangerous lunacy. If I could get just one asthmatic to come off dairy for four weeks, just to see, then I'd be happy.

I now don't use the drugs I've used for an entire lifetime becuase I've come off dairy.

OK it's not so simply for everyone but I bet it really is that simple for thousands of people many of them children.

There have been soooooooooo many threads lately that have become, well, bad. Have your opoinions and discuss them freely but please don;t start name calling, It doesn't make your opinion seem reasonable for the people, like myself who are interested in the different sides of the argument and who are trying to make up their minds.

you have a bad case of "unwillingness to agree with spidermama", I think, sorrell.

OOOh sorrell. You and your proper peers. Who are these gods in whom you have blind faith. Priests used to enjoy a similar ranking from the mass populace, but then we discovered they were mere mortals like us.

Question everything. You owe it to yourselves.

Goodnight. Enjoy your breakfast cereals.

YOu may consider it 'dangerous lunacy' but numerous proper scientific studies have shown very similar results.

www.asthma.org.uk/news_media/news/milk_and_butter.html

look: dairy intolerance may have caused your asthma, but lots of things cause asthma. dh's has cleared up too lately actually - hard to say why, but it ain't dairy (I suspect air pollution myself). that doesn't mean that everyone should stop eating dairy and certainly doens't mean it's ok to insult the intelligence of anyone who continues to eat it.

Spidermama have you ever considered being nicer and a little less insulting in your posts, maybe then you would be able to get your point across without such aggression mounting?

fgs so the peer review system is inherently biased now?

if you're not drinking milk it's got to be something in the water.

what the hell is wrong with people tonight?

there are some flippin' great big drums being banged on - give it a rest, I've got a headache.

cocoa, cocoa, where's that bloody cocoa?

Question everything but PETA websites, eh? I am a sceptic, but you know what, I trust a thousands scientists trying to reach the truth more than a dozen animal rights activists trying to promote their cause. Have a look at the websites. They are not really about science or nutrition, though they pretend to be about both.

and I do question things. it is you, I belive who posted the link to a load of old nonsense which you completely failed to question.

Right.......firstly its Miss and not Mrs and for someone who has called me naive and ill educated I hardly think that 'rude' should be my moniker.

I picked up your thread with genuine interest as I do with anything like this as I am well aware that you can't just accept things as read in this day and age. What i object to though is now I have seen both arguments and am making the decision that I feel is the best one, I am being made to feel like some brainwashed idiot. You're not offering people an alternative you're telling them how it is according to you based on these very extreme websites.

I too agree with MoreTea and have myself voiced on other threads that this site is not about visually abusing people so I'm off to drink a gallon of the good stuff

oh, did you count to 10 before that post?

I've just a a nice hot mug too. Enjoy it CountTo10.

Milk of human kindness a bit sour tonight, ladies?

I did and even popped out for a naughty ciggie as well!!!!

Evenin' HM!

I should say so.

it's certainly on the turn in some quarters hunker!

Sorrell, has it never occurred to you that vegans are vegans for a reason? Several reasons actually, all of them informed and good. And it is wrong to link vegans with terrorists. I find that people often feel threatened by veganity (if that's a word!) and try to blacken its image.

Nice to see the creme de la creme still on the thread though - hello, ladies!

'veganity'

Great!!

This:
"I am sure there are many problems around the humane production of milk which are worthy of serious consideration, and I can even see the vegan point of view."
Is from my post of 10.13.
Doesn't mean the sites are not propaganda.