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Pt 8 (Oct13) Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc

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Bladderama · 01/10/2013 18:12

Welcome to thread 8 (again - see below) of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

With apologies for confusion in thread numbers - an earlier thread was called part 7 but it was actually the 6th thread.

Here are the previous threads:

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 4
Thread 5
Thread 6
Thread 7

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

OP posts:
SantaRedLegs · 06/01/2014 21:27

This might be a silly question but hope someone can help me.

Can you have a prolapse if you haven't had kids?

I'm early 30s and I think I have one. Dragging feeling down below, and a lump near the front sort of top wall inside.

I'm too terrified to go to see a dr Sad

BumgrapesofWrath · 07/01/2014 04:25

Can I join in please? A bit freaked out here!!

I've got awful cystitis, and decided to have a look down below. I noticed things looked a bit odd down there, with my entrance into my vagina not looking "defined" at all (the best way I can describe it.) I then decided to push, and the bit between my urethra and vagina seemed to bulge out.

Having had a google, I suspect I have a cytocele. Things haven't felt right since I had DS2 a year ago. In fact, I mentioned a bulge in my vaginal wall to my gp when being examined for a coil fitting and she said nothing was there, but I suspect now my feelings were correct.

What is my best course of action now? Obviously I'll be seeing my GP, but should I be pushing for surgery or trying to improve it or live with it?

I am a little upset by this (hence why I am awake at this time)

happylilme · 07/01/2014 10:13

Bumgrapes, sorry to hear you had a sleepless night. I had prolapse on back wall so can't really advise you on best step. I know that GP and surgeons tend to hold off operation if you would like more children that being said I would ask for C-section if you do have a slight prolapse as by experience these things get worse with each vaginal delivery.
Sometimes they offer physio, to try to strengthen your pelvic floors.
Next they will ask is it affecting your life ie leaking urine, pain during sex etc. I think what they do in operation is do tvt which is a sling/tape to hold and support things in place.
Like I said I had a rectocele so don't have the same understanding as some of the wonderful ladies on here but just wanted to say don't fret too much because if it is it can be repaired SmileI know its easier said than done though.

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happylilme · 07/01/2014 15:04

Can someone let me know what the signs of infection is? Got this pongy smell sorry!!! Like rotten wound or stitch ??????

doineedhelp · 07/01/2014 16:40

So had my tvt-o this morning but can't pass water so still in hospital :-( might have to have catheter put in and come back in 2 days. This happened to anyone on here?

Never bloody straight forward when it comes to me

aciddrops · 07/01/2014 18:27

When I looked at the information sheet it said that this might happen. It said that you would be taught how to catheterise yourself but this should only be for a short period.

happylilme · 07/01/2014 21:13

Don't panic Mr mannering twas an old stitch that came away. I'll need a few stiff drinks after this recovery.

Dragonroad · 07/01/2014 21:20

Well, my second infection and second round of antibiotics. Will see the surgeon for an early check on Friday. I was hoping to enjoy a bit of time off work whilst feeling ok but not looking likely at the moment.

Dragonroad · 07/01/2014 21:46

Happy - just read your last posts. I know all about infection. It is when people smell you before you actually enter the room!
Seriously though, get it checked out because it can undo the surgeons lovely work.

happylilme · 07/01/2014 22:57

Oh Dragon poor you. Is that what is causing the bloating? I think I will go tomorrow just to get checked. I think the smell is due to the rotten stitches by now. I am getting stomach cramps though that might be ibs. It's kind of a taboo subject really but it's all part of the recovery and I think it's good that we have a wonderful thread like this to ask cause let's face it I'm not going to talk to friends and family about it. Sorry if it is to much info.

bestfriendActually · 07/01/2014 23:23

SantaRedLegs - Yes you can have a prolapse even if you haven't had any children, I'm seeing the gynaecologist next month for a rectocele caused by chronic constipation! It's causing me all sorts of horrible problems which i intend to ask about on this thread but need to name change first!
i always wanted children so I feel extremely hard done by that i have all the downsides of childbirth without the actual children if you know what i mean!
Please go & see your GP they've seen it all before! Mine's been brilliant!

Dragonroad · 07/01/2014 23:36

Happy - saw the gp today to get another sick note for a further month and to tell her about return of infection. I saw her last week about the bloating and she felt my belly and it was too painful to let her feel properly. She faxed a letter to consultant same say asking him to see me urgently, hence appointment with him on Friday. My belly really does look 5 months pregnant and is painful most of the tine unless I have been horizontal. My bladder area has been aching all evening. I am getting used to ignoring it.
I haven't seen any stitches come out and the ones on the outside for TVT are still there. I can't say with any authority whether they should smell or not when they come out, but my instinct tells me not. I think a trip to gp tomorrow would be sensible.
As for to much info: that's what we are here for. Can't really talk to family about the nitty gritty of most of this as, let's face it, it is pretty grim.
Let us all know how you get on with your gp.

Noordinarygirl · 08/01/2014 00:04

doineedhelp I had to self catheterise for 6 months on and off last year and it's really not half as bad as you might think at first. It's not painful at all, you just need to relax and it'll be absolutely fine.

Dragon poor you - sounds like you have a way to go yet. How many weeks post op are you now and what exactly did you have done? What is a TVT? Am I right in assuming it was keyhole surgery?
Happy when I had my first op (keyhole partial hysterectomy) last year my tummy button stitches as well as the bikini line ones did get a bit smelly so I went to see GP. All I did was put antiseptic cream on them for a few days and tried to keep them as 'aired' as possible and they turned out OK. I think it was about 2 weeks before they fell off (dissolvable stitches).

How long have you both been off now?

doineedhelp · 08/01/2014 08:49

Thanks noordinarygirl, I need to go back tomorrow and see how bladder is working. Really hope its sorted itself by having a rest.

I had an infection after childbirth and it was vile, the smell was horrendous so it does happen with stitches down there, just get it checked out. Good lucj

happylilme · 08/01/2014 13:50

Thanks doineehelp hope your visit today brings good news Smile

Noordinary you sound as if you have been through the mill with your lady parts too. I really hope you get your operation soon x

Dragon it's official I have joined your merry band of infections Blush. Entered Dr rooms told her my symptoms her response was "do you really need me to have a look" . My response being "not if you can avoid it"
So I am on 2 lots of antibiotics, one 4 times a day and the other 3 for a week. Smell like the local fish market and a funeral director. If I didn't laugh I would cry Sad

Dragonroad · 08/01/2014 18:01

Poor you! But welcome to The Stinky Club. Hope you feel better soon.

happylilme · 08/01/2014 19:03

How are you feeling today Dragon? I always wanted to belong to a club trust me to get the stinky one [Grin]. At least I'm in with fine company.

Dragonroad · 08/01/2014 19:20

I feel like I am getting flu. It is just the infection though. I have an urgent appointment with the consultant on Friday and whilst I want it to get better, I shall be really embarrassed if it is. He will think I am a nuisance.
How are you doing?

Dragonroad · 08/01/2014 19:22

Noordinary - I have been off 4 weeks to date and have another sick note for 4 weeks.

Dragonroad · 08/01/2014 19:25

Noordinary - I really should read these posts properly. A TVT is a tension free vaginal tape and is a sling to hold up my bladder. It is for stress incontinense and seems to be doing its job. It was all done vaginally plus two puncture wounds for the TVT.
How is your date for operation going? Did you send your letter?

happylilme · 08/01/2014 19:33

Same as you got aches all over really, my butt cheeks and legs especially. Touch wood I have no temperature just feeling tired. Dr gave me some diazepam as I said stress wasn't helping my recovery. Will take some tonight and hopefully sleep.
I hope your consultant will help in some way. Are you on 2 antibiotics at same time???

Dragonroad · 08/01/2014 19:42

No. I have been given co-axamoxiclav again. It gives e he shits and makes me feel sick, so woohoo! What have you got?
Are you alright in yourself? The diazipan will help but this isn't much fun is it? I have one day and feel there is progress and the next I feel like crying. I really thought some of my time off work would be a bit of a doss but time is ticking away.....

happylilme · 08/01/2014 20:00

I have flucloxacillin and metronidazole, first is for infection of wound area, that pesky stitch and the other for bacterial infection after surgery. She said I will feel pretty tired on these but she wanted to attack it full on, charge of the light brigade going on.
I thought I was well on the road to recovery and then this, as the lovely Miranda says such fun.
Oh well a year from now we will hopefully be feeling amazing. It's how I got through childbirth I kept telling myself it's a small amount of time out of a lifetime.
I know what you mean about work though, it's not often I get this time off work. Hopefully after this course of antibiotics you will feel better. You have had a rough time of it

happylilme · 08/01/2014 20:07

But your right , it is shit Shock

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