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Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc part 4

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Ben10NeverAgain · 06/04/2012 19:43

This is thread 3 of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

Here are the previous threads:
Thread 1
Thread 2

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

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Nannasylv · 30/04/2012 01:49

Hi folks. I hope you're all doing ok. I've got no more news until Wednesday, so the limbo continues here. Best wishes to all!
XX

Footle · 30/04/2012 12:45

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tazzle · 30/04/2012 15:43

oh sorry footle .. I did not even know where the message icon was....... had to go look ( it took a while with my eyesight Wink). It does not exactly jump out at one that one has a message Confused

Good luck for tomoorw Nana

tazzle · 30/04/2012 15:43

tomorrow even !!!

fengirl1 · 30/04/2012 17:36

Wouldrather and Tazzle..... Just wondering how long it will be until I can 'get my leg over'! GrinGrinGrin

tazzle · 30/04/2012 17:45

well fengir1 as soon as the weather is conducive I gonna give it ago Wink

wouldratherbeskiing · 30/04/2012 19:17

Fengirl1, Tazzle :)

BUnderTheBonnet · 30/04/2012 19:56

Crikey! I'm feeling more naive by the minute. I never even thought of "the rest of my life" post-op, blithely presuming it would either be fixed, or it wouldn't and they'd "do something else".

How much does this suck???

There are some lifting tasks I am very happy to hand over to my DH on a permanent basis, such as nappy changes, middle of the night get ups with DD, emptying bins... Not sure they counter not going skiing etc.

Some people are so nosy aren't they? I've had lots of people at work today asking why I was going off for 6 weeks, and continuing to ask questions past the polite cough and eyebrow wiggle stage. I then went for full discolsure (minus faecal incontinence) and watched them squirm. Heehee!

fengirl1 · 30/04/2012 20:21

You're right B in some respects - it does suck BUT given the choice between carrying on as we are or getting fixed and adapting to make sure we don't end up the same again I guess we all know the choice we'd make.... But I have to be honest and say I'm going to hate having to ask people (and probably pay) to do stuff I used to do....

fengirl1 · 30/04/2012 20:25

....(carrying on after posting cos I couldn't remember the second thing I was going to say! Blush) I am going to have an anti-prolapse campaign on Facebook before Thursday - if anyone's offended or embarrassed (I won't go into graphic detail tho!) that's tough because I'm certain SO many women are suffering in silence and it's just wrong.

Ben10NeverAgain · 30/04/2012 20:32

Good on you Fen on the anti-prolapse campaign. Although I shared all details of my rib removal and subsequent lung operation - whilst on IV morphine Grin - I didn't post at all about this one. I shouldn't be embarrassed, but I am.

I've told a couple of people that I know really well as well as my line manager obv, but I don't really want to tell someone I last saw in 1995 when I left school. Really, why I have them on my FB is the real question Confused

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fengirl1 · 30/04/2012 22:42

Ben10 - hope you're doing ok. I was REALLY embarrassed about it (and still feel abnormal and unfeminine tbh) but then I actually got angry about it.... I'm in this state because I was made to have DD1 in a way that looked good on paper at the time, but has cost me a lot 17 years down the line. It's not my shame so I don't feel ashamed of it any more.
Rant over! Grin

gottagetthroughthis · 01/05/2012 16:53

fengirl1 - i am new to this with a rectocele and am 52

Sorry what does DD1 mean (in yur last post)

gottagetthroughthis · 01/05/2012 16:54
Confused
fengirl1 · 01/05/2012 16:55

Gotta - 'dear daughter 1'!

tazzle · 01/05/2012 18:11

welcome gotta .... its a whole new language to learn here on MM. Wink

I am still finding my way around and have to refer to the acronyms quite a lot (access descriptions up near the top of the page .... . blue writing links)
this is a very informative place to find out what RL ( real life) experiences are rather than just the medical blurb .

Footle · 01/05/2012 19:54

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Littlefish · 01/05/2012 20:19

Update from me.

I saw my gp and she has prescribed Laxido for me. I can't believe how much I'm pooing!!! I can only think that my years of constipation are finally clearing, thanks to the Laxido and that in a week or so, the pooing will settle down to normal levels.

I'm still really tired, which I presume is the effects of the general anaesthetic wearing off.

I'm seeing my consultant next Wednesday to find out whether he thinks I still need to have the original surgery, or whether all the problems were down to the cyst. My gut feeling is that there is still a bowel prolapse there although it's smaller now the cyst is not pushing down on my uterus and bowel. I really don't want to think about more surgery just yet. Even if he says I need more surgery, I think I will wait for at least 6 months before going ahead.

fengirl1 · 01/05/2012 21:32

Grin at Littlefish! Chance would be a fine thing!!

Littlefish · 01/05/2012 21:45

The pooing, or the surgery Fen? Smile

fengirl1 · 01/05/2012 21:47

Definitely the pooing! Will reserve judgement on surgery until you know what you need and when you want it. Smile

Littlefish · 01/05/2012 22:00

The pooing is an absolute revalation to me! I never knew so much pooing was possible. Grin.

gottagetthroughthis · 01/05/2012 22:57

thanx for all your replies
Footle thank god for your answer - so there is some positives (being older I mean) Blush I'm thinkin tho it probably has a lot to do with your surgeon and whether you get everything tied up inside (TMI???), however will do as you say and read the rest of the thread(s) - at least I feel "normal" now - feel so ashamed - my dr didn't even know what a rectocele was and I live in the Belfast area!!Shock
Am looking forward to reading and wrinting on this thread am quite excited i found this - my Main Main worry is that I am still goin to be able to work if I have the op I just could not do without my work (office/admin)Sad

probablyaslytherin · 02/05/2012 00:14

Littlefish, I am hypermobile, too, had speedy births because of it and needed an anterior repair a year ago. The gynae physio told me that 90% of Olympic gymnasts go on to develop prolapses (I'll think of that when watching them this summer!)because of hypermobility.
Although they all say to keep doing the old pelvic floors, I can't see how you can tone up lax ligaments....
I also tried to get some sense out of somebody/anybody about how much is too much to lift but couldn't get a definite answer. One physio said "Well, don't go lifting any heavy suitcases" but wouldn't put a figure on "heavy".
I am a keen gardener but know when I overdo it because I get all sorts of internal creaks and groans and can feel a bulge again. I am not feeling too optimistic about the posterior wall now and suspect I am developing a rectocele.

Repeat after me ladies: Sometimes its haaard to bee a wooomannnnn......

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