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Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc part 4

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Ben10NeverAgain · 06/04/2012 19:43

This is thread 3 of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

Here are the previous threads:
Thread 1
Thread 2

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

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ApplePenPineapplePen · 08/12/2019 09:08

Update: I saw GP Friday morning and she was truly lovely, took me seriously and gave me a referral to consultant gynae. She said if it happens again I need to go to A&E. The GP was visibly relieved when I said I had private medical care through work because I think she thought the NHS waiting time would be rather long. I see the consultant tomorrow evening. I must say everything is feeling a lot better but on Thursday I would have described it as how tender I was 3-4 weeks post-birth. On the plus sude the GP thought that my pelvic floor was in pretty good shape.

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ravensoaponarope · 06/12/2019 19:53

Went to doctor today, have rectocele. As poster above, am feeling revolted and freaked out

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ApplePenPineapplePen · 03/12/2019 20:40

I think I may be joining you ladies here. I felt something odd yesterday, soft swishy lump that I had to push back up towards the rear of my vulva. It is still not right today and so I will try and see GP tomorrow. It is as though my perineum has opened up. My youngest DC is 8! Feeling really stressed and revolted by it.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 19/11/2019 23:55

Glad I found you. Going to read up.

Prolapse Penny, here.

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PhoebeBear · 19/11/2019 03:25

Bump?
I'm not 14 weeks pp and although my prolapse did seem to get better, it's came back 😔 I'm so so upset! No nurses are doctors have been able to help me out and I feel so alone in this situation. I cannot pick up and hold baby anymore as the pain it causes. 😣😣😣😣

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PhoebeBear · 07/09/2019 10:11

Hi all I just need a little advice. I'm exactly 1 month PP and today I got my period, the past 4 days my prolapse has been very painful. Has anyone realised their symptoms of uterine prolapse get worse before your period? I'm hoping after I'm done bleeding it won't be as sore as right now I cannot stand up without the pain becoming very strong 😔😣

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AniseedBall · 05/09/2019 21:01

I'm sorry to read this. You need to get a second opinion so you know what you are dealing with and ask for a referral to a women's physio and urogynaecologist (they specialise in vaginal prolapses). I hope things settle down for you over the next few weeks / months.

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PhoebeBear · 05/09/2019 18:11

I had my son 4 weeks ago and I have a prolapse. Doctor was friggen usless and says it looks like it's either 1st or 2nd degree and didn't say why type of prolapse. It hurts more now after the exam has been done. I'm in agony to be honest and now lower back pain and abdomen pain has started. What can I do? Any help please

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Seaweed42 · 16/08/2019 17:44

There's a lot of internal swelling for sure, which takes a good while to settle down. Make sure you rest loads and get on the sofa as much as possible. Follow the rules regarding no heavy lifting. Try to avoid driving as much as you can get away with.
If you are worried, ring the ward where you had the surgery and hopefully someone will reassure you.
I had a bladder prolapse surgery (cystocele) and the cure definitely seemed worse than the disease for a couple of months. I had mine in early Oct 2014 and it was the end of the December before I stopped feeling like I was sitting on 'something'. Plenty of times during the first year I was thinking 'it's back' but it got much better over time.

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Jackieap · 16/08/2019 11:38

Four weeks into rectocele repair and everything is bulging worse than before ?? Is this normal help !!!!!

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Shakey1500 · 24/05/2014 17:15

Hi sackandcrack just wanted to acknowledge you Smile I'm in the same position as you (have posted after yours). I'm sure the ladies will screech along with wise words soon! Till then we'll take it in turns to bump

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Shakey1500 · 23/05/2014 20:08

Hello all

Some advice please! Been having trouble leaking urine for about the past year. It's got worse and ranges from everyday leakage to completely wetting myself lately on a night out Blush

Saw GP today and got an immediate referral to gynae as she felt my uretha had prolapsed. Said she could see it "popping out" when I coughed. I think she said it was the uretha (well, the word was definitely mentioned but I can't remember if she said bladder prolapse as well??) but I was a bit taken aback as I was expecting to be told it was age/traumatic birth related and just to do PFE (which I do but makes no difference) and wear tena for the rest of my days.

She said it would probably be an operation so here's where I could do with some advice. I'm currently the only bread winner (long story) and don't get sick pay Sad What does the op involve? An overnight stay? What recovery time etc?

Any help gratefully received

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SackAndCrack · 06/03/2014 18:08

Please anyone? I think I will just have to keep bumping because I havent been able to get any help or advice from anywhere.

Ive now got an urgent referral to the gynae for a mild prolapsed bladder and a moderate prolapsed uterus and she reckons they might need to pin it back up.

Whats the op like? Is it bad? Ive got no family near by and im a single parent as well. Does it floor you for ages or can you bounce back?

Pleeeeaase someone help.

These threads clearly used to be lively, surely not everyone is fixed and sorted?

Help please!

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SackAndCrack · 04/03/2014 13:39

Hello, can anyone help me please?

I have a prolapsed bladder which has just got worse, and its uncomfortable now.... protruding

Im waiting to get an appointment with a doctor that Im comfortable with, this week.

Does anyone know what can help? Obviously pelvic floor exercises but anything else or is it always surgery?

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Snicci · 25/02/2014 23:06

Hi Daisy,

Thanks so much for getting back to me. So sorry to hear of your pain and troubles after surgery :( I know how much it can impact your daily life and how exhausting it is.

Unfortunately my consultation didnt go so well yesterday. Consultant wasnt very helpful or sympathetic (gynae). Now awaiting to see a bowel consultant, almost 6 months after giving birth. So exhausted of living this way, feel there is no end to it at all.

Will look into the kit you mentioned. Was this available on prescription? Not heard of it before but will check with Dr Google :-)

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Daisy000 · 25/02/2014 14:53

Hi Snicci - So sad to read of your pain and the tough times you're having. I have lived with scar tissue from my first (traumatic) birth but in recent years had major surgery - cystocyle, recocele, bladder sling which has left me with severe damage and more scar tissue. If I could i'd never have gone for the surgery as for me personally it's left me with terrible damage and more pain to manage.
Re. rectocyle etc - i had a terrible time before and after surgery but was eventually prescribed a Peristeen irrigation kit to use daily which has radically changed things. No more pain due to pressure or needing to push = less pressure on an already scarred and fragile area. Also once I got used to my own way of using it, it gives me a little feeling of being in control again - something i've lost over the years due to the failed surgery etc.
There are those out there who would recommend avoiding any further surgery at all costs as each time leaves us with more scar tissue and the possibility of complications.
I'd certainly look into the option of using a Peristeen kit - it really is worth trying.
Such an individual thing..but there are alternatives to surgery.
Daisy x

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Snicci · 19/02/2014 00:08

Anyone? Sad

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Snicci · 18/02/2014 12:24

Is anyone from this thread still about?

I have previously posted about my post-birth pains and have a few questions I wouldn't mind asking someone who has had problems with a rectocele before.

I am 5.5 months post-birth and been back and forward to GP since giving birth with ongoing pain. I can't pass bowels (sorry for TMI) without being in absolute agony. I was given so many numbing creams/gels, pain relief, laxatives but nothing helped to ease the pain.

After seeing my GP again last week, she thinks I have scar tissue internally from the perineum to sphincter (I had an episiotomy and forceps delivery and a medical student helped stitch me up - that's a completely different story!). She felt a hard lump which is causing me most of the pain. I also have symptoms of a rectocele prolapse. The pain is so bad when I need to pass my bowels and just before, that I was crawling up the stairs to go to the toilet yesterday Hmm

I am finaaaaally seeing a gynaecologist on Monday (I feel like I am 5 and Christmas is coming!). My questions are:

If the gynaecologist offers physio as the first route to go down, can I refuse? Surgery is obviously risky and not everyone's first choice but I just want to be fixed. I am 27 and it's has really impacted the experience I have had with my first daughter, my relationship, when I will be able to go back to work, how I feel about myself and my body etc. I should have been offered physio months ago and the thought of just prolonging things a few months is depressing me.

If you did have an op to remove scar tissue/correct rectocele, how was recovery and how long was it until you felt more like your old self, if at all?

Finally, did they do any tests/scans at your consultation? My GP said they may do a test to check my pressure points as I have lost the sensation of needing to go and may also be referred to a bowel surgeon Hmm

Any advice would be greatful

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Edinburgh63 · 20/06/2013 19:07

Dahlialover: I scrolled to the top and saw general health, sorry to sound daft what do I do now?

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Dahlialover · 19/06/2013 15:40

Hi Edinburgh - you need to go to the new thread (7?) which you will find on the front page of General Health (click on it at the top of this thread). Lots of people on there!

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Edinburgh63 · 19/06/2013 14:23

Hi there I had a posterior repair on the 13th may 2013, I am now into week five of recovery. Just want to know what activities can I do? We run a pub so not sure when I should be back pulling pints. I get tired after standing for an hour, it's more my left buttock and top of my left leg goes numb. Should this be happening? Ps, I have a four day break booked for Center Parcs ..... Stop bleeding ages ago so what can I do there also.
So many questions....

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hh83 · 13/01/2013 19:28

hi ladies,
I would like some advice.
I had a prolaspe 4 years ago and it seems to rectify myself a few weeks after. I had just given birth when it happened.
last night I was constipated and noticed a bulge when I wiped myself after a wee. I'm now terrified that its back. I know my pelvic floor is very weak because I've been leaking wee slightly. I'm now terrified. I'm only 29 and I'm thinking of the worst case. is there any options other than surgery? I really don't want the surgery. if I do need it how long does the surgery mend things for? can I have a normal life? I have two young children and like running around with them. I'm so worried and have made a doctors appointment for Wednesday.

thank you in advance x

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WhodveThought · 28/10/2012 22:58

sorry, thread is full? Will hunt for new one.

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WhodveThought · 28/10/2012 22:57

Hi, I was pointed to this thread by someone in the 'ragged bits' thread. Maybe someone can help me with stories or advice (or just enablement to sit on the couch and drown my sorrows today!).

I had a series of mortifying tests done this morning and was told that I have to have surgery to fix an anterior rectocele that has left me incontinent. I am 30 and only have one child, I am feeling terrified.

This is my second surgery since a botched forceps delivery to correct 'complications' they caused. The first was vaginal reconstruction after masses of tearing. I, well, I am tired of this and feeling very stressed.

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WhodveThought · 28/10/2012 22:55

Hi, I was pointed to this thread by someone in the 'ragged bits' thread. Maybe someone can help me with stories or advice (or just enablement to sit on the couch and drown my sorrows today!).

I had a series of mortifying tests done this morning and was told that I have to have surgery to fix an anterior rectocele that has left me incontinent. I am 30 and only have one child, I am feeling terrified.

This is my second surgery since a botched forceps delivery to correct 'complications' they caused. The first was vaginal reconstruction after masses of tearing. I, well, I am tired of this and feeling very stressed.

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