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21st TAMOXIFEN !!

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MaryAnnSingleton · 15/03/2012 17:41

here we are- how did that happen ?

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jchocchip · 20/03/2012 11:53

Sometimes, I do have the same skinny jeans in 4 sizes !! I'm not skinny, but glad the two biggest are so big that I can't wear them without a belt and a lot of bunching, so not really. The smallest pair are hanging in my wardrobe waiting for a comfortable fit. I refuse to spend a lot of money on work clothes while I'm losing weight, so jeans it is.

Gigondas · 20/03/2012 12:01

Thank you Mas that made me smile Smile. I guess I am jnclined to worry and surgeon is away this week but was told given size and location of op ghat infection (ESP as fluid fills the void) was a risk. Just hate feeling fluey.

And dh book sounds ace Mas - do tell us when it's out .

Am obviously a layman but given all the reports on tamoxifen and weight gain here you would think there was something in it. Also one in eight sympathy re weight loss as that's as bad too (am sure will get looked at askance if weigh me tomorrow but not felt like eating anything even fbs).

Going to rouse myself to pick up midi gig and look at her exhibition - its Olympic themed so I await with interest how she can get purple, barbie mermaids and hello kitty into that theme .

topsyturner · 20/03/2012 12:26

Have you found out what your neighbours are up to yet kk ?
Think it might be Zombie related .
Taps nose , nods wisely Grin

Gig strokes head sympathetically .
You are having a tough old time aren't you ?

Sending out healing hugs to all who need them .
And telling everyone that they need to eat , your bodies can't heal if they aren't properly nourished !

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 12:40

Neighbourwatch update - no activity so far, a string has appeared between fence posts, and a fence panel between our two gardens has been taken down (so I will have to be terribly careful my doggy doesn't get out, run across their carefully flattened and raked new soil and do poo in the middle of it)

Greylady -what a beautiful present I am Envy, your DH sounds a star - did you have to hint very loudly or is he just good at presents.
Would something like a piece of silk be any use for protecting your sore boob (am trying to think of solutions - all things boob related are always in such and awkward place) Anyway enjoy your party and have a lovely day in your nightie Smile

Gig - Sad about new infection - what a pain, you must be very fed up of it by now. Fingers crossed for this lot of AB's doing the trick.

LJ - I have been trying to eat carefully - have cut out all cakes and biscuits and evening snacks (my dinner is the last thing I eat in a day). I lost a few pounds initially but have hit a total standstill. On the good side I do feel more in control of what I eat.

I never know what's causing it all - I have thyroid problems which definitely play a part. But I am sure tamoxifen does too, - am also on citalopram - which I think might have similar effects.

It gets to be a vicious circle - like you I find depression (and thyroid) makes me lethargic and unmotivated. Adding to weight gain - which adds to depression. And weight gain I'm sure adds to general aches and pains - it must do - too am carrying around at least 3 stone more than I was before I was DX, despite losing a lot while on chemo.

I don't know how we tackle it. Positives I have found - I do plenty of exercise, walking, yoga, keep fit, swimming etc. - doesn't deem to impact my weight, but makes me feel stronger. more 'toned' (relatively! Grin) and having some degree of control. - Also helps with my depression I think.

I hate the fact that weight gain is dismissed - by doctors as anything to bother about - we keep getting told we shouldn't gain weight, then they won't help when we do Confused

Sometimes - it's encouraging to hear about your too big trousers though - well done Smile

MAS - DH's book sounds very exciting - Wine for him and you for illustrations - I wish him great success Smile

Post got far too long again. waving to everyone. will post in a more restrained manner a bit later Grin

MaryAnnSingleton · 20/03/2012 12:41

(grabs cake with unseemly haste) !
LJ -that's interesting about your reaction to venlafaxine- it's been fine for me obviously- I get very sleepy if I stop working/doing stuff but generally quite energetic. Am trying to walk into town as often as poss and not going by car as it's good for my joints - might switch to Mindful yoga instead of meditating-though it takes longer.

OP posts:
KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 12:42

topsy - Zombies a definite possibility, - do zombies ignore you when you say good morning? Grin

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 12:46

jane - you run don't you? - were you a runner before DX or is it a recent thing for you? - I'd like to have a go, but feel too fat and achy at the moment Blush - not sure the village deserves to have me in running gear lumbering around quite yet! (also have visions of setting out, and collapsing in a sweaty heap after ten yards, to the sound of echoing laughter from onlookers)Grin

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 12:51

Columbia - Shock about your sisters bag - how rotten for her, such a pain having to cancel all the cards, keys etc.
Hope you manage to get your massage soon, but glad your leg is a little better.

Smee - you are slender as a slender thing (as is MAS), and an active person - so it's interesting that even you think you have gained. Maybe it is menopause?

list of things that suck:
cancer
menopause
getting older
getting fatter
feel free to add to list

Grin
topsyturner · 20/03/2012 12:55

Think so kk .
Have you packed your OFRS yet ?
Don't forget your looting stick ...

Gigondas · 20/03/2012 12:55

Strong antibiotics
Playdates with kids your kids like but you dont

topsyturner · 20/03/2012 13:07

Ooh yes gig , DD had a friend round yesterday who was a really pushy little madam ! (now panics at the thought that DD might be like that at friends house)

topsyturner · 20/03/2012 13:08

Cleaning out the shower .

SparkleRainbow · 20/03/2012 13:17

Happy Birthday Greylady! Thanks and Wine for later.

Gig I am so sorry it has got infected again, it really is a bugger.

Kurri I am going to start jogging with the wii fit, if my knees can take it, it is supposed to be really good for weight loss, and at least that way no-onecan see me. Grin

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 13:17

playdates from hell - yes (thank goodness mine are past that age)
Cleaning the shower - what's that?? Grin

Gig - pro biotic yogurts (my favourite recommendation for everything) - can help prevent the AB diarrhoea IME.

SparkleRainbow · 20/03/2012 13:18

I cleaned the shower properly last week, and nearly passed out with the smell.....not good cleaner in an enclosed space...won't be doing that again for a while ever.

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 13:19

Sparkle - that sounds fun (and suitably private) - we haven't got a wii. But maybe I could zumba round the room to a music CD - then I'd only scare DH and DDGrin

Gigondas · 20/03/2012 13:41

Kurri yoghurts are good tip- think I have some pro bio tabs too. Need some of thAt as tummy very unsettled.

I suppose I just panic about anything now and feel a fool that didn't spot it earlier. Then again I don't suppose it's that unusual to get multiple op Infections.

Kurri you Seen thread on odd neighbours ?

probablyveryunreasonable · 20/03/2012 13:54

Hi all. Not been on much the last few days as trying to keep my mind occupied! Will have a read through in a mo.

Have my appointment tomorrow, late morning. Although this week has taken forever, now I can't believe it's here so fast. I'm hoping fo an 'everything's fine' tomorrow but also know it may definitely not be fine, or I may need more tests which mean more waiting. Gaaaah, it's driving me crazy.

I hope everyone's ok and I will update tomorrow.

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 13:55

No haven't seen it Gig - must go and have a gander Grin

I think you are right - it probably isn't that unusual to get infections. But it all seems a bit luck of the draw - and miserable if you are unlucky Sad - I imagine your wound is a largish one, and I'm sure that having recently given birth, breast feeding, sleepless nights, and all the stress of your DX and op. , your body is feeling pretty battered.

Lots of , and a cuppa - I know after I had my ops, and when I had infections on chemo, I just wanted to curl up and go to sleep - and I was lucky enough to have that luxury. You don't get a break with little ones, - so you are doing brilliantly, but it must be terribly frustrating that your wound is misbehaving, - fingers crossed these AB's will knock it on the head. xx

KurriKurri · 20/03/2012 13:59

x-posted probably, - loads of luck and good thoughts for tomorrow. You are right, there may be more waiting - but after tomorrow I think you will have a bit more info. on what they think may be going on, - you'll be in the right place and on the right path to getting the problem sorted out - whatever it may be. Smile

Gigondas · 20/03/2012 14:10

Probably- lots of good vibes for tomorrow.

Kurri- that is exactly how I feel. Also I suppose as have got off lightly in terms of post op infection before (know some people have horrific time with c section) that thought would be ok and only caught once. The logical part of me knows it's likely given wound size, location and general state not a shock but emotional bit feels all Waah Sad about it.

I do have help with girls but feel bad as can't do all I can when sick - I really hope that after rads will turn corner (and am putting scan worries into the paranoia box).

jchocchip · 20/03/2012 15:41

Yes good vibes to probably for tomorrow. Waiting is horrible. Really hope you get a good result

kk I started running just after Christmas when I joined a c25k thread on mumsnet. Its a nhs podcast that you listen to. You start off walking and running for the odd minute, then it builds up over 9 weeks until you run for 30 minutes. I'm still massively overweight but have lost a bit and surprised myself by enjoying the running...

Gig not surprised you are emo. Grab some more fbs and put your feet up. Don't feel guilty for resting.

smee · 20/03/2012 15:44

Gig grr for you about the infection. I'd feel waah too if I were you. I think Figgy had problems with her scar for a long time. It's just bad luck, and Kurri's right you've been through such a lot so it's not all that surprising. I guess yours is exacerbated by where it is - you can hardly avoid using it! How's DD's Olympic event going? I bet Barbie wins gold. Grin

MAS, your DH's book sounds wonderful. Hope you'll share the link with us when it's live. Will definitely buy. Smile

Sometimes, am liking the trouser story. How's DD? Is she better again now?

Kurri, Zombies now there's a thought. When DS was about 4 he asked our neighbour if she was a zombie. She laughed nervously, but never actually denied it.. Hmm I said Minaret because they're on my mind, as DS is on a mission to build one in our garden. Not at all sure why - he just reckons they're pretty. Grin

Probably, huge amounts of luck to you for tomorrow. We'll all be thinking of you. Hope you get the best of news.

Greylady, hope you're feeling a bit perkier now and are enjoying your day.

Kurri - running's hard. Honestly I'm quite fit in some ways, but my knees just couldn't do it. I might try at a gym as treadmills are less impact, but then that would involve joining one. Not sure I'm a gym girl really. Might stick to my cycling and swimming. Smile

jchocchip · 20/03/2012 15:49

Beautiful spring day, hurtling through the countryside on a train. Nice to have the luxury of training it rather than driving. Couldn't mumsnet if I was driving and I don't like the M1...

Gigondas · 20/03/2012 15:49

She made a nice torch picture . I am pleased as she now seems a bit clearer that the Olympics is not the same thing as total wipeout( she was quite disappointed and disbelieving when I told her this).

Barbies Olympic success surpasses Steve red graves

I am sure there is no answer to this but why does ds want a minaret? Is he going to Chant from it?

Jchoc- you have solved a mystery about what that thread is about .

Thanks for support. Two days of rubbish sleep and eating nothing has not done best for my mood. However I have just heard the apprentice is back on tv tomorrow Smile