This illustrates why your vaccine choice matters to the rest of us

[CatherinaJTV]

one family's vaccine refusal killed one, another child, infected by the same unvaccinated pre-teen is still dying (since 2005):

justthevax.blogspot.com/2011/10/so-predictable-so-sad-natalie-dies-of.html

Chipping - I have apologized, both here and on my blog.

Oh well that's alright then eh?

Except it is not. You have UPSET people by calling their children an offensive and horrible name with violent undertones. Most of the people you have upset have children who are ill, children who suffer, children who are in distress.

But you have said sorry (after being asked and had it pointed out to you by numerous posters that you were attacking our children) so now you expect us to engage with you.

What the actual fuck??

Attitudes like this make me want to puke. And I am disappointed to see this sort of shit on a PARENTING site that is intended to be SUPPORTIVE for parents.

In fact I'm pretty sure it breaks our guidelines and I'm going to email MNHQ to check.

Beachcomber,

I don't expect anyone to engage with me, I was going to stop posting here altogether, but I am also not going to let lies (as in that I did not apologize) stand. I am sorry you feel so deeply insulted that you will not get over it and be calling me names for the rest of my days...so be it, I guess.

I can't believe I am going to post on this thread again, but here goes, Caterina, my son has caught HIB, despite being vaccinated, and his immunity allegedly being ok. These cases do exist and denying them doesn't help.

Hilda, I never doubted that (and I do hope your son is ok - hib is a scary bug).

Those photos are truly heartbreaking Leonie. :( you'll probably be accused of scaremongering though because everyone knows vaccines are 'perfectly safe' so it must have just been a coincidence.

Oh that poor family

They vaccinate at birth?

DS3 had oral vitamin k, as did ds4. he had the baby jabs and MMr as did his brothers although MMR was late on GPs advice as he had recurrent chest infections, he regressed shortly after the MMR. he could speak before not after but no medic would even note that, we couldn't prove it as we didn't own a video camera.

I can understand people don't agree with the decision wrt to ds4 (who has had measles as there was an outbreak locally) but I can't quite fathom why someone wouldn;t at least understand why we made our choices. he ahd most baby jabs but we could not get HCP to promise not to give MMR alongside otehr batches so withdrew then.

he's currently due some more jabs and I am trying to get them but the clinic is at school taxi drop off time and I have to be home for the Sn taxi. So I think if people were really so upset about failure to vaccinate they could start with eliminating barriers like that before geting on to the complex and emotive dilemmas.

That poor baby Ian :( he died because of a vaccine given at birth that protects against a disease spread (in in developed nations) through sexual contact and shared needles etc. I cannot understand the thought process that makes anyone think that is a good idea.

Ah so I see that I get deleted for using rude words about the OP but the OP's post calling my child a 'potential murder weapon' is still there.

Mind you, personally I chose not to report it, because I prefer to have that sort of thing left so that people can see the unpleasant attitudes held.

Must be nice to live in the world of Vaccination is A Black and White Issue.

Actually I did live there once, and was all for vaccination - seemed like a free lunch to me. Quick jab, risk of anything really really low, child protected, community protected. Sounds fabby to me.

Except the risk wasn't really really low for my child. Shame you only get to find these things out the hard way eh?

Oh well, 1 kid as collateral damage out of 2, should get me a fucking medal and a load of support for doing my duty for the community right?

Wrong - fuck all support, harassment from the school to experiment on DD2 with vaccines, getting called a nutty vaxaloonconspriracytheoristtinfoilhattedmoonlander, aaaaannnnnd, now my child is getting called sick and offensive names.

What happened to that community spirit and it's all about the children mentality?

It fucks off pretty sharpish as soon as your child becomes a member of the collateral damage group. Because we are an inconvenience you see, we are an annoyance with our sick and distressed kids - don't look good to have too many damaged kids cluttering up The Vaccine Program.

Right OP?

Well that's it isn;t it Beach

We ( not any specific we ) are slated for our stance yet in order to get to where we are we watched our children regress after vaccination, which could be argues indicates we are not born as 'rabid anti vaccinating luddites' who never cared.

Exactly Peachy.

It is hilariously stupid to be called an 'antivaxxxxxer' when one become cautious about vaccination because one did vaccinate one's children and it didn't work out.

Then there is the side splitingly funny faux concern of the 'yes well I know that you are deluded believe that your child reacted badly and I totally respect your right to believe that'. Generally this attitude is accompanied by comments about parents needing something to blame for their kid's ill health so they become antivaxxxxers as though it is some sort of security blanket for the deluded poor things.

It is sort of interesting from a socialization point of view I suppose - or it would be if it didn't make me feel sick.

Hi Leonie.

I live in France and the schedule here is a disgrace too.

DD1 had two Hep B jabs before we figured out that she wasn't a very good pin cushion for profit for Pharma. Shame they were totally unnecessary, whoopsie!

Doctor agreed that a third one was probably a bad idea.

mother of 5 'murder weapons' here an educated, researched decision with much heart ache thrown in and a bit more now as my boys get older and have had mumps yet.

that poor little boy leonie i sat and cried looking at his pictures and my 6yr old ds3 looked over my shoulder so i had to explain to him why he looked so poorly :(

i never understood why on american birth prog they jab them and put gunk? on their eyes straight away after birth, they also rub them down with a towel to 'clean' them up etc, it all looks very rough and traumatic for a newborn imo.