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General election 2024

What are you most looking forward to if Labour win?

343 replies

Georgieporgypud · 02/07/2024 18:48

Presuming theyre going to win the election, what manifesto promises are you hopeful about?

For me it's going to be their promise to fast track rape trials, providing proper support to rape victims and targeted support within the police for victims of domestic violence.

Let's hope they make it happen.

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BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 20:09

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 01/08/2024 19:51

Of course there is. The tweet from RR shows that.

To take WFA from pensioners that are on basic state pension is dreadful. Labour claims to be looking after the poorest in society, they would have lambasted the Tories if they did the same.

Poor pensioners will be worse off this winter, worse off under a Labour Government.

I thought we were talking about posters here, not X. This Labour government is unable to look after the poorest in society because of the dire economic situation they’ve inherited. I’m far more pissed off that they can’t lift the two child benefit cap. Pensioners have been featherbedded by the Tories for 14 years in payment for their votes.

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 20:48

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 20:09

I thought we were talking about posters here, not X. This Labour government is unable to look after the poorest in society because of the dire economic situation they’ve inherited. I’m far more pissed off that they can’t lift the two child benefit cap. Pensioners have been featherbedded by the Tories for 14 years in payment for their votes.

You cite the dire economic state they've inherited, do you mind saying what is so economically dire?
As we are the fastest growing country in G7 (beating France, Germany & the USA) , finally have reached the BoE 2% inflation target, at full employment, at risk of inflationary pressures rising once more. Please tell me what is so very dire economically?

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:10

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 20:48

You cite the dire economic state they've inherited, do you mind saying what is so economically dire?
As we are the fastest growing country in G7 (beating France, Germany & the USA) , finally have reached the BoE 2% inflation target, at full employment, at risk of inflationary pressures rising once more. Please tell me what is so very dire economically?

The Tory overspend. There’s a £22 billion hole in the budget. Do keep up.

Rummly · 01/08/2024 21:16

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:10

The Tory overspend. There’s a £22 billion hole in the budget. Do keep up.

There’s a £22 billion hole in the budget.

©️Reeves’s Porkie Pie Factory Plc

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 21:16

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HauntedPollingBooth · 01/08/2024 21:29

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So the OBR, a Tory creation, are lying?

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:30

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Please don’t be rude. There’s no need for it.

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 21:38

HauntedPollingBooth · 01/08/2024 21:29

So the OBR, a Tory creation, are lying?

Haha another one!

The OBR are the ones that will be doing an investigation into the Spring budget to see if what RR is saying is true. And it won't be.

I tell you what you should watch... if RR raises taxes in the next budget... that was her intention from day 0. As today the Government recieved a windfall on debt servicing. So she will not need to raise taxes unless she wanted to from the outset.

Please for the love of God , don't pick up acronyms when you don't understand what you're saying.

HauntedPollingBooth · 01/08/2024 21:41

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 21:38

Haha another one!

The OBR are the ones that will be doing an investigation into the Spring budget to see if what RR is saying is true. And it won't be.

I tell you what you should watch... if RR raises taxes in the next budget... that was her intention from day 0. As today the Government recieved a windfall on debt servicing. So she will not need to raise taxes unless she wanted to from the outset.

Please for the love of God , don't pick up acronyms when you don't understand what you're saying.

Where do you get your inside knowledge and can you provide us with some links to it, please?

Also some manners would be nice.

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 21:45

I'm an Economist by training, its not inside information... I closely follow the economic state of this country as its my job.

HauntedPollingBooth · 01/08/2024 21:48

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 21:45

I'm an Economist by training, its not inside information... I closely follow the economic state of this country as its my job.

OK, so you're one economist. Other economists disagree with your assessments - so why should I believe you? I mean, Rachel Reeves is also an economist...

Nancy1906 · 01/08/2024 21:56

I'm not asking you to believe me..

Time will tell.

Next budget , tax rises .. this was a known game from day 0.

Blame the tories, yes 9.4bn on pay increases.

Windfall , yet tax rises.

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:57

The IFS is blaming the Tories.

rwalker · 02/08/2024 07:48

Well not sure there going to remain that popular 3 weeks in and

▪️Cut winter fuel payment for elderly
▪️amnesty to 90,000 illegals
▪️Replace the word ‘illegal’ to make it sound better
▪️Given £11.6 billion to fund net zero in Africa
▪️set to release 40,000 prisoners early
▪️Deal with the EU to take more migrants
▪️£3 billion to Ukraine every year
▪️Energy bills not going down
▪️Ended protection of free speech act
▪️Pushed through huge solar and wind projects regardless of the agricultural loss
▪️Set up a ponzi scheme to pretend we have a state energy producer
▪️Paid back the unions for supporting them by giving a 22% pay rise to jnr drs
▪️Want to shelve stop and search
▪️Ok with men in women’s sports
▪️Abandoned the foreign workers pledge
▪️Closed the migrant barge
▪️Increased the pressure on state schools by adding vat on private schools
▪️Abandoned the cap on social care
▪️Reinstating the ban on fuel vehicles
▪️Stated every town must take migrants
▪️Stopped building hospitals
▪️Re named terrorism as mental health
▪️Starmer Uturns on giving up his special pension

Add to that riots, the highest number of migrants in history arriving in small boats

HauntedPollingBooth · 02/08/2024 08:45

▪️Cut winter fuel payment for elderly - you mean means testing it
▪️amnesty to 90,000 illegals - Evidence for this statement?
▪️Replace the word ‘illegal’ to make it sound better - Nope, using the international definition rather than pretending that seeking asylum via small boats automatically makes someone 'illegal'. International law matters.
▪️Given £11.6 billion to fund net zero in Africa - Working to improve African countries so their people will feel less need to come here for economic reasons
▪️set to release 40,000 prisoners early - because the Tories failed to manage the prison estate for the last 14 years and underfunded the court system
▪️Deal with the EU to take more migrants - Evidence for this statement -
▪️£3 billion to Ukraine every year - Because not supporting Ukraine is basically supporting Russia - why do you think this is a good idea?
▪️Energy bills not going down - Mine just went down... what proof do you have that outside of international price pressures anything has changed because of what Labour has done?
▪️Ended protection of free speech act? - Reinstating the independence of institutions to decide who they do and do not want to platform
▪️Pushed through huge solar and wind projects regardless of the agricultural loss - I live in the Sunnica area. The 'agricultural' land being used has been growing nothing but ragweed for decades. It's not planted. It's not grazed.
▪️Set up a ponzi scheme to pretend we have a state energy producer - At least making an effort - where is your evidence that it's a ponzi scheme?
▪️Paid back the unions for supporting them by giving a 22% pay rise to jnr drs - It's not a 22% pay rise. It's spread over three financial years and is very like the Scottish deal. Furthermore, if you keep your doctors in post, you're saving a fortune on locum and agency doctors. Do you even know who much the NHS spends on those?
▪️Want to shelve stop and search - Evidence for this statement? Stop and Search needs reform. There are still far too many people being stopped purely because of the colour of their skin and without any intelligence that crime is being committed.
▪️Ok with men in women’s sports - Evidence required.
▪️Abandoned the foreign workers pledge - This is a Telegraph headline and therefore needs evidencing
▪️Closed the migrant barge - Which was costing more per resident per day than hotels... But hey, maybe they'll put the Southport rioters in there, that would be good!
▪️Increased the pressure on state schools by adding vat on private schools - The evidence that this will have any significant impact on already falling rolls is negligible
▪️Abandoned the cap on social care - There was no funding for it, Unfunded tax cuts saw to that.
▪️Reinstating the ban on fuel vehicles - Because pollution matters.
▪️Stated every town must take migrants - And why is that a bad thing?
▪️Stopped building hospitals - There was not a lot of hospital building going on in any case - how many of Boris's precious 40 hospitals have been started?
▪️Re named terrorism as mental health - That's just your interpretation of what happened in Southport, don't be silly
▪️Starmer Uturns on giving up his special pension - When I Google this, all I get are links for the Telegraph, GB news and the Express, 'accusing' KS of doing this. You're going to have to come up with a politically neutral soure before I give it any credence.

I know you're a huge Tory fan, I've seen enough of you on MN. But honestly your list above is a collection of misinformation, distortion and outright lies. Do better. Be better.

Nancy1906 · 02/08/2024 08:59

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:57

The IFS is blaming the Tories.

Blossom, please read the article.

Stop being so utterly reductive.

'The IFS is blaming the Tories'

🤣🤣🤣

Do you even know who the IFS are ?

quickly runs to Google to check what this acronym means

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 09:04

Nancy1906 · 02/08/2024 08:59

Blossom, please read the article.

Stop being so utterly reductive.

'The IFS is blaming the Tories'

🤣🤣🤣

Do you even know who the IFS are ?

quickly runs to Google to check what this acronym means

I see your manners haven’t improved. 🙄

Nonetheless, some of the specifics are indeed shocking, and raise some difficult questions for the last government. If the scale of these overspends and spending pressures was apparent in the spring – and in lots of cases, there’s no reason to suppose otherwise – then it is hard to understand why they weren’t made clear or dealt with in the Spring Budget. Jeremy Hunt’s £10 billion cut to national insurance looks ever less defensible. On asylum costs, the decision to effectively stop processing claimants, and to budget virtually nothing for the resultant costs of housing them, looks like very poor policy making. The new Chancellor is right to be cross.

rwalker · 02/08/2024 09:05

HauntedPollingBooth · 02/08/2024 08:45

▪️Cut winter fuel payment for elderly - you mean means testing it
▪️amnesty to 90,000 illegals - Evidence for this statement?
▪️Replace the word ‘illegal’ to make it sound better - Nope, using the international definition rather than pretending that seeking asylum via small boats automatically makes someone 'illegal'. International law matters.
▪️Given £11.6 billion to fund net zero in Africa - Working to improve African countries so their people will feel less need to come here for economic reasons
▪️set to release 40,000 prisoners early - because the Tories failed to manage the prison estate for the last 14 years and underfunded the court system
▪️Deal with the EU to take more migrants - Evidence for this statement -
▪️£3 billion to Ukraine every year - Because not supporting Ukraine is basically supporting Russia - why do you think this is a good idea?
▪️Energy bills not going down - Mine just went down... what proof do you have that outside of international price pressures anything has changed because of what Labour has done?
▪️Ended protection of free speech act? - Reinstating the independence of institutions to decide who they do and do not want to platform
▪️Pushed through huge solar and wind projects regardless of the agricultural loss - I live in the Sunnica area. The 'agricultural' land being used has been growing nothing but ragweed for decades. It's not planted. It's not grazed.
▪️Set up a ponzi scheme to pretend we have a state energy producer - At least making an effort - where is your evidence that it's a ponzi scheme?
▪️Paid back the unions for supporting them by giving a 22% pay rise to jnr drs - It's not a 22% pay rise. It's spread over three financial years and is very like the Scottish deal. Furthermore, if you keep your doctors in post, you're saving a fortune on locum and agency doctors. Do you even know who much the NHS spends on those?
▪️Want to shelve stop and search - Evidence for this statement? Stop and Search needs reform. There are still far too many people being stopped purely because of the colour of their skin and without any intelligence that crime is being committed.
▪️Ok with men in women’s sports - Evidence required.
▪️Abandoned the foreign workers pledge - This is a Telegraph headline and therefore needs evidencing
▪️Closed the migrant barge - Which was costing more per resident per day than hotels... But hey, maybe they'll put the Southport rioters in there, that would be good!
▪️Increased the pressure on state schools by adding vat on private schools - The evidence that this will have any significant impact on already falling rolls is negligible
▪️Abandoned the cap on social care - There was no funding for it, Unfunded tax cuts saw to that.
▪️Reinstating the ban on fuel vehicles - Because pollution matters.
▪️Stated every town must take migrants - And why is that a bad thing?
▪️Stopped building hospitals - There was not a lot of hospital building going on in any case - how many of Boris's precious 40 hospitals have been started?
▪️Re named terrorism as mental health - That's just your interpretation of what happened in Southport, don't be silly
▪️Starmer Uturns on giving up his special pension - When I Google this, all I get are links for the Telegraph, GB news and the Express, 'accusing' KS of doing this. You're going to have to come up with a politically neutral soure before I give it any credence.

I know you're a huge Tory fan, I've seen enough of you on MN. But honestly your list above is a collection of misinformation, distortion and outright lies. Do better. Be better.

Just because u oppose labour and have different views doesn’t make you a default Tory

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 09:07

rwalker · 02/08/2024 09:05

Just because u oppose labour and have different views doesn’t make you a default Tory

It kind of does.

Nancy1906 · 02/08/2024 09:22

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 09:04

I see your manners haven’t improved. 🙄

Nonetheless, some of the specifics are indeed shocking, and raise some difficult questions for the last government. If the scale of these overspends and spending pressures was apparent in the spring – and in lots of cases, there’s no reason to suppose otherwise – then it is hard to understand why they weren’t made clear or dealt with in the Spring Budget. Jeremy Hunt’s £10 billion cut to national insurance looks ever less defensible. On asylum costs, the decision to effectively stop processing claimants, and to budget virtually nothing for the resultant costs of housing them, looks like very poor policy making. The new Chancellor is right to be cross.

Edited

Listen, Im sorry, I can not be bothered to entertain someone like you. if you're not going to read your own links thoroughly and post willy nilly and then just cut a snippet out to prove a flimsy point which currently stands unfounded. We are on completely different mental planes.

My GCSE English Literature teacher often reminded students to READ the question and not answer what they wanted to.

I urge you to do the same. Ive got a job to do , you obviously have more google searches and copy pastes.

Good luck.

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 09:23

We are on completely different mental planes.

We certainly are - it’s plains, not planes. See you.

Nancy1906 · 02/08/2024 09:31

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 09:23

We are on completely different mental planes.

We certainly are - it’s plains, not planes. See you.

One last time, do a Google search and you will find that you are wrong. Oh Blossom, you just cant stop humiliating yourself can you 😄

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 09:37

Thought you had work to do.

HauntedPollingBooth · 02/08/2024 09:38

Nancy1906 · 02/08/2024 09:31

One last time, do a Google search and you will find that you are wrong. Oh Blossom, you just cant stop humiliating yourself can you 😄

Does every single economist agree with your assessment of the situation then? Because economics is not a hard science.