So much talk about Reform, are people panicking?

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All across the boards people appear to be scared of just how popular they are.
If it's not panic, then why the desperation to tell anyone voting for them, that they are all racists?
Reform voters BTW, just very interested that no other parry is having such animated discussions. If they weren't becoming so popular, nobody would be talking about it.

Brexit wasn’t a protest vote.

that’s your problem, thinking you’re better than others that don’t share your opinion prevents you from seeing things clearly.

i know what I voted for and I know it wasn’t delivered.

most Brexiteers know what they voted for and know it hasn’t been delivered.

Reform is not a protest vote, I know what I’m voting for and I want it delivered. As a twofer I also expect Brexit delivered by reform.

shaming and accusations of waycism aren’t going to cut it anymore.

you can all feel it out there which is why you are all panicking.

I do.

Aus do turn backs. They are also still part of the UNHCR

“most Brexiteers know what they voted for and know it hasn’t been delivered.“

OK go on then @Farting. How exactly was it not delivered? Be precise. Explain.

Your young children come home questioning their Gender?? I have teenagers that have not once questioned their gender and they go to a school where the boys can wear skirts if they want! Guess what, my youngest doesn’t know any boy that wears a skirt and my eldest was the same not that they’d care if someone did one to do this! I’m just impressed that young children are vocal about gender politics!

Are you relying on Farage to fight for women’s rights 😂

the boats will be coming and going all day long if the French are entering into their extreme right governance but who cares about the above it is just fucking details isn’t it, soundbites are all you need, plans and policies are for the Woke Establishment (excluding Farage of course who is the Establishment not the Establishment, not the real Establishment, not the Establishment, Establishment)

Current suggestions appear to be build a wall (Mogg), Royal Navy to push back boats (Farage): interestingly no one mentions Rwanda…

Go on ANY article about immigration, and you will see hundreds of comments like this.

Have they a policy on point 3?
I thought their gender ideology ban was just in schools?

Aus does out sourcing for processing which is similar

If people want to know what works look at Aus

These aren’t serious suggestions and it reflects on the parties that make them. Silly arse policies for silly arse people

The policies that mirror Aus ones would do

I am Centre Left but I also want female spaces protected. That doesn’t mean that I don’t want to be kind to those who are trans or have gender dysphoria. I would like protection for all minorities, but not at the expends of women. There has to be a third way.
Gender neutral toilets are disgusting for women because many men piss all over the seats. And I am fed up with that. It isn’t even about the genuine people who are transgender. It’s the men taking the piss who are the problem.

Not sure you can legislate people out of being inconsiderate men. Otherwise our world would look different…

Who is ‘Farrago’ sounds like a horrible coffee flavoured chocolate bar!

I mean if you have grown up in London, if you went to school in west London that was pretty much inhabited by kids like those on ‘People Just Do Nothing’, believe me, Dulwich College IS the Establishment but even if you didn’t, it is the sum of parts as someone previously posted it runs through his veins so stop the pretence- he’s not a man of the people!

What did you want to happen?

Reform is a curiosity. It will fizzle out after a term of its MPs showing what it’s really all about.

No! It’s a really serious party with careful policies and serious people vote for them. There are no racist or BNP sympathizers in it, and Farage is a man of the PEEPUL!

Believe. I don’t think we should be afraid to mock Reform voters. And they should be challenged. If they are as decent as they claim, they will survive and win. If they are actually a bunch of thin skinned, poorly thought out politicians, with a number of racists trailing after them then it will be clear and they will just be the Greek Chorus of the UK, never happy, always carping, and forever disenchanted.

I'm also on the left and I can confidently say there is not a third way. A few Labour politicians have said this recently and it is a mixture of wishful thinking and arrogance. Do these people think they are the first to come up with the idea of some compromise that pleases everyone? Either women need to be told they can't have single sex spaces, or trans males need to be told they can't use opposite sex spaces. Anything else is a fudge that lets the issue fester for longer than it needs to.

I actually want Farage to win his Clacton seat now and have to turn up to Parliament and I hope someone somewhere keeps a very clear tab of how many days he actually shows up for. From what I can tell he is very good at criticising the system but has no answers on how to actually make things better. He might as well just spew bile on social media. We can all do that. The difficulty lies in implementation and managing things on the ground. Something which Farage would never in a million years be able to handle.

@Goldenbear Are you nitpicking on my typos? Also, Farago sounds not bad at all.. I'm familiar with Dulwich college,thanks. If Farage was a part of the establishment, he would be sprouting the same patronising agenda and wouldn't be undermined by BBC, Channel 4, etc

I’d say that depends on what’s behind their rise and the media headlines - which is trafficking mostly

I doubt Labour will see anything bar increase

You know if it but you must not have grown up in London in the 80s and 90s as it was definitely posh kids that went there! To be a day pupil now it is nearly £27000 a year! He was a City Trader and his Dad was a Stockbroker and his brother a Commodities Trader - if that isn’t the Establishment what is?!!

You know exactly what I mean, but spin away!

No I actually don’t!

I've seen a lot of comments on local FB etc from people saying they are voting Reform. I can see the need and wish for a party which stands for something different, and is not Labour or Tory, but sadly Reform are not ready for this. Perhaps next time, if their candidates are properly vetted.