Middle class biological women prepare to be relegated to being second class citizens by the end of the week

[Mycatsmudge]

The Labour Party is expected to win a huge majority in the GE on Thursday. My fears are their stance on trans rights which are being prioritised over those of biological women and this will risk our safety, opportunities and dignity. I also work in the NHS and read what is happening to the nurses in Darlington with horror.

My other concern is they have not been transparent on their plans on how to raise money for their spending pledges other than say they will invest and reap the benefit of green technology. This is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. I can only conclude we will be taxed even more but stealthy.

Then I read this in their manifesto:
‘Expansion of the Equality Act 2010Labour will implement the socioeconomic protected characteristic of the Equality Act, also the socioeconomic duty under Section 1 of the Equality Act and ensure equality impact assessments of government policy are conducted.5 Jun 2024’
To me this means richer areas will get less money from government for public services than poorer areas. I live in an area which is very boringly middle class but our public services are already cut to the bone(bin collections fortnightly, potholes left for months, all adult evening classes gone) but we still pay a hefty amount of council tax.

So under a Labour government I as a biological woman, working in the NHS on the frontline and will be expected to share our women’s changing rooms with any man with a GRC. I will probably be taxed more as a higher rate taxpayer because the tax bands have stayed static for years and I will expect less public services because I live in the suburbs but my council taxes will most likely increase just to sustain what we already have

I think it is an exceptionally naive mistake to think women will just go along with this and either subordinate themselves to males in order to be allowed to use public spaces, or suffer exclusion. Or that the press will shut up about it. Or the court cases will magically stop. Or the medical research regarding experimentation on children and the harms caused. Or the detransitioning people telling their stories.

And the next Isla Bryson PR disaster is only ever a day away, to add to the many disasters clocked up so far.

Anyone believing that subordinating the equality and rights of women and LGB people, and the safeguarding of children to the freedoms and wishes of men is 'progressive' has a problem.

There will be more right to protest under Labour , so if the worse happens then we women need to demonstrate and protest hard. Personally I think it's Tory scaremongering. Anyone working in the NHS , midfield class or not won't want the Tories in to completely decimate it.

They didn't. They just fucked up the system so prosecutions plummeted which effectively does the same thing

Forstater vs CGD made it clear that being gender-critical is worthy of respect in a democratic society, so back off with the "bigot".

Not wanting males in female spaces is a reasonable demand.

I of course am GC and wholeheartedly agree that women's rights should be protected and I don't like labour's stance on it. But, I'm interested, those who can't bring themselves to vote labour because of this - who WILL you be voting for...!? Surely not the Tories....?

If Labour hadn't filibustered, that Bill could have been law by now. You can't blame a party for being filibustered.

The Tories changed the schools guidance to protect kids as well.

I've seen a lot of posts of people wanting to vote Tory for women's rights and a strong opposition.

When you ask about women's rights under the Tories there's tumbleweed.

They didn't need to pass legistlation. They ran the policing and criminal justice system down to the point that rapists can now rape with impunity. It was part of their Austerity programme. A disgusting ideology that inflicted disproportionate pain on women.

When I said women I guess the reality would be mothers. Boris Johnson has been very clear that he believes mothers should stay at home (until it was suggested he pay for it). Jacob Rees Mog doesn't believe in abortion, even after rape. We can't really go on what the current Tory MPs think, as most of them jumped ship/were sacked due to their awful behaviour during their time in government. The worst of them will soon be back should the Tories win.

using party funds to pay for private medical treatment of a victim of the Tory multiple rapist

That's more treatment than my rapists ever paid for. Assailants compensating victims is a good thing so I really don't understand why you've put it in a list of bad things.

I already feel like a second-class citizen, thanks.
The Tories had a chance to clarify SSE and did not.

Labour will make some aspects of this issue worse - I am deeply concerned about their plans for school guidance in light of the Cass report and Bridget Phillipson's remarks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed they will not put rapists back into female prisons and Wes Streeting will keep his word about single-sex spaces in the NHS.

This is bigger than one party and will take of pushback decades to unravel. In the meantime, we will keep campaigning and see which manifesto promises Labour will achieve.

No thanks, I speak up about bigotry when I see it. Have a nice day!

But you can blame a Government for not supporting and presenting the legislation itself.

Why didn’t that happen? Is it because the Government pretends to care but does not actually put its power behind legislation like this?

Why is that do you think?

You asked me that yesterday. The answer is still the same.

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/breaking-point/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20sexual%20offence,running%20of%20the%20Crown%20Court).

They've been in for 14 years. I've no idea why you're making excuses for them.

The thing is, 1) that's not changing legislation and 2) they put the rapists in the womens prisons in the first place!
All they've done is reverse their own bonkers policy that was obviously going to harm women in the first place. And now they expect to be rewarded for that.

Just no. It feels like epic gaslighting.

The victim wasn't compensated by the assailant. The Tory party paid her hospital bill out of party funds, kept her rapist in post and when she complained further she was told to get over it by the Tory whip.

It is a bad thing because it shows how steeped in rape culture the party is.

Exactly, well said 👏

This thread (and all the others) are quite heartening actually. It looks like the Tories have really overplayed their hand here and when women apply 2 seconds of critical thinking they realise how hyperbolic this "Labour will harm women!@@!!" rhetoric really is

Ohgoodlord

“I'm no fan of men“

Replace that with women and read it back. Sweeping generalisation is never a good basis for sensible discussion.

I agree, @CassieMaddox - they've been pushing this agenda so hard for the last couple of weeks.

Those are not “the facts” FFS

Penises in women's loos is the opposite of progress. The world over, we recognise that private toilets are needed for women and girls to participate in education and daily life.

This hasn't been stopped under the Conservatives. Women's rights are nowhere near where they should be after 14 years of the Conservatives.

We’re definitely in danger then because, thanks to the Tories, there’s shit in our water.