Middle class biological women prepare to be relegated to being second class citizens by the end of the week

[Mycatsmudge]

The Labour Party is expected to win a huge majority in the GE on Thursday. My fears are their stance on trans rights which are being prioritised over those of biological women and this will risk our safety, opportunities and dignity. I also work in the NHS and read what is happening to the nurses in Darlington with horror.

My other concern is they have not been transparent on their plans on how to raise money for their spending pledges other than say they will invest and reap the benefit of green technology. This is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. I can only conclude we will be taxed even more but stealthy.

Then I read this in their manifesto:
‘Expansion of the Equality Act 2010Labour will implement the socioeconomic protected characteristic of the Equality Act, also the socioeconomic duty under Section 1 of the Equality Act and ensure equality impact assessments of government policy are conducted.5 Jun 2024’
To me this means richer areas will get less money from government for public services than poorer areas. I live in an area which is very boringly middle class but our public services are already cut to the bone(bin collections fortnightly, potholes left for months, all adult evening classes gone) but we still pay a hefty amount of council tax.

So under a Labour government I as a biological woman, working in the NHS on the frontline and will be expected to share our women’s changing rooms with any man with a GRC. I will probably be taxed more as a higher rate taxpayer because the tax bands have stayed static for years and I will expect less public services because I live in the suburbs but my council taxes will most likely increase just to sustain what we already have

Yes but they know what a woman is of course!! So all is forgotten now!!!

As a middle class biological woman, I think you're talking absolute bollox.

VOTE LABOUR!

Because Labour are demonstrably even worse than the Tories on this issue and we have to pick the least worst.

Believe me, if there actually was a party which was strong on women's rights and ideally sensible in other policy areas as well I would vote for them in a heartbeat.

The bigger problem is men identifying as men and their treatment of women, and the tories haven't done anything to sort that out.

Absolutely spot on. The Tories give not one tiny shit about women but they use this “we know what a woman is” shit to beat Labour. It’s getting so tiresome now.

The Tories have been demonstrably worse on this issue having been in power while it went on.

Tell that to the prison officer raped by a convicted rapist, and the three vulnerable women that were also raped in prison - resulting in pregnanices.

Or the young woman whom has worked her entire life to make into a national team

Or the little girl whom finds a man in the ladies loo at the shopping centre
Or the weirdo staring at my teen girls in the 'unisex' changing room
Or the board that says they have achieved 30% female representation, except they haven't because trans people are also counted as women

It is utter shit, and affects ALL of us in multiple ways.

The Tories haven't made a manifesto promise to make a GRC even easier to get. Labour have.

No they haven't. They've proposed to make it less bureaucratic is all. It's not even quicker - still a 2 year process.
That's conservative scare mongering

How is "less bureaucratic" not easier?

It still involves a load of rigmarole. Two years of reflection and seeing a gender specialist. Barely any of these men identifying as Trans have a GRC, they don't need one. It's illegal to ask for one. Tories aren't changing that. You are also protected from discrimination even if you're transing; Tories aren't changing that either.

How is cheaper not easier? Truss reduced the cost to a fiver.

One specialist. Webberly will be already rubbing her hands together over how she can set up a cash-for-diagnosis clinic to service this market. To give a little context, I had to see two specialists for an autism diagnosis that gives me no legal fiction about my sex and no resultant access to male spaces whatsoever. Where is the safeguarding in Labour's proposal? It's harder for me to get the diagnosis needed to access reasonable adjustments that infringe on no one's rights than it will be for a man to get his GRC that infringes on women's rights.

@BIossomtoes Lowering the price doesn't reduce safeguarding.

Because it makes no material difference to the number of people getting a GRC. When you say Labour are making it easier, the implication is that's a problem because more people will be granted a GRC and some who shouldn't have been.

How is "less bureaucratic" not easier?

The % granted is already at 95%. This really isn't a hill worth dying for.
It's certainly not worth choosing the Tories instead, with their dreadful stance on PIP and support for the disabled in general.

Biological woman here who cannot WAIT for it to happen!

Just curious … please tell me after GE a lot of these bots/ accounts will go, right?

I don't think you know what "folie à deux" means.

I assume that they will need a real job; let’s face it, anyone still working for the Conservatives would be well advised to find something else in the socialist hell hole that somehow the Labour Party will conjure up in a matter of days.

Well none, because most of these 'bots' have been here for fifteen years or longer, in fact before the invention of 'bots'. So a very long wait.

It does get tiresome when the only argument one that somehow differs from your view therefore it has to be a 'bot' 🙄

Really? Because you seem to plug yours tirelessly

You have to be 18 or over, so you're an adult. You need a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, there is a two year wait, then you see a gender specialist. A referral to a specialist clinic, currently takes years, so it unlikely it would be a quick process. Currently only about 2 percent of Trans people have a GRC. You can't ask for a GRC anyway and don't have to prove you've got one.

Labour have said they'll implement recommendations from the Cass report.

Streeting said that the Equality Act "made very clear provision for the protection of single-sex spaces - and that's biological sex". Labour have said they'll provide clarification. They also said that they'll make exceptions to the GRA regarding safe spaces.

Burn!

I think Streeting is paving the way for himself to be Labour leader later, once all the trans stuff has gone up in flames and Starmer has lost all credibility. But he's not sure when that will happen so he's walking a careful tightrope. He doesn't want to say anything that could be labelled transphobic right now, but when it all implodes he wants to be able to claim that he was an early whistleblower.

If it’s still an issue by the time Starmer steps down I’ll be astonished. He’s got at least another election in him and I can’t see him stepping away from a half done job. All sorts of personnel changes could happen in the meantime. It’s high time they had a woman anyway.

I don't think Streeting will ever be leader. People don't trust him.