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General election 2024

To not understand why people vote Conservative

164 replies

Aquarius1234 · 01/07/2024 09:23

I'm in my late 30s and don't understand my relatives pretty much all voting Conservative.
Aren't they a bunch of upper class twits, plus most are racist, homophobic etc etc
And Conservative in nature.
The ones that obv hardly know anything other than for tax reasons, are tedious.
That's the only thing I knew when I was about 13...
Labour don't male average salary people pay loads of tax right?

OP posts:
Meadowfinch · 02/07/2024 08:20

OP, condemning anyone for being white and middle class is not liberal and open minded.

You are showing racism and bigotry. Think on that !!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 08:27

TheColourOutOfSpace · 02/07/2024 07:29

I like to be liberal and open minded.

You certainly don't sound like it lol

Doesn't do irony, that's for sure.

Zwicky · 02/07/2024 08:43

Aren't they a bunch of upper class twits, plus most are racist, homophobic etc etc

Some are upper class twits. I can’t for the life of me understand why people vote endlessly for Fabricant and Reece-Mogg etc. Lots aren’t upper class twits. Some on the left are upper class twits who present differently from upper class twits on the right but are twits all the same. Some on the left are working class or pseudo working class twits - from my labour candidates literature “hard work meant coming home covered in coal. I knew how to handle a racing pigeon before I could walk”. What is that? She’s a woman in her 40s cosplaying a man in his 80s.
Labour has a huge racism and anti semitism problem. Unfortunately it’s not a left/right problem. Labour arguably has more of a women problem and a homophobia problem. My exiting MP (Mark Fletcher) is conservative and has received homophobic abuse from the leader of the labour council. Incidentally the people asking the labour candidate about it have been blocked. She’s likely too busy with her racing pigeons to care.

And Conservative in nature.

Yes. Most people aren’t living life as if they are extras on “the young ones”

The ones that obv hardly know anything other than for tax reasons, are tedious.
That's the only thing I knew when I was about 13

Labour don't male average salary people pay loads of tax right?

I’m struggling with this sentence tbh. DH is a small business owner and taxation, particularly the VAT rises have been very bad and a big part of why he would never vote conservative. I am salaried (public sector) and I’m in the bracket that has benefitted from the NI cuts. I quite like that they are targeted at working people - the triple lock has benefited pensioners so I think tax cuts targeted at working people are fair enough. The tax burden is at its highest for 70 years and nothing works anymore so they’ve bollocksed their reputation as a low tax party but people still do like the principles of “small state, individual responsibility, low tax”.
How tax is collected and how it is spent really is the essence of government, it’s not a side issue.

My biggest objection to a conservative government is the greed and corruption over the last decade. The transfer of public money to private hands - particularly during the pandemic, and the sense that they are above us (partygate etc). The standard of public services is appalling, in no small part due to the Conservative principle of “how can we get rich off this”. Public transport and utilities are not run to benefit the people, they are run to make profit for a small number and nobody is ever held accountable when the services are not provided. I don’t object, in theory, to the conservative value of individual responsibility, I just don’t think it should go as far as making me boil my tap water and closing the libraries.

HowIrresponsible · 02/07/2024 08:44

Meadowfinch · 02/07/2024 08:20

OP, condemning anyone for being white and middle class is not liberal and open minded.

You are showing racism and bigotry. Think on that !!

Sunak is derided for being rich and out of touch. He wasn't white the last time I looked.

It's prejudiced in itself to think that the only people who can be middle class are white people.

1dayatatime · 02/07/2024 09:18

Meadowfinch · 02/07/2024 08:20

OP, condemning anyone for being white and middle class is not liberal and open minded.

You are showing racism and bigotry. Think on that !!

I think OP uses of the term "white" in the context of an insult rather than a reference to skin colour.

For example if an Asian or Black person expressed similar views then that would actually make them "white" regardless of their actual skin colour or their right to their own opinions.

user876 · 02/07/2024 09:47

I can’t for the life of me understand why people vote endlessly for Fabricant and Reece-Mogg etc.

They don't. They vote solely for the man/woman at the top and their party. That's how we end up with some really poor politicians in parliament.

cavalier · 02/07/2024 09:51

Franzkafkascat · 01/07/2024 23:55

😂😂 ah those pesky unions allowing the workers to get above themselves.
Don’t need to look it up, I’m old enough to remember.
Crikey is CHQ working overtime and letting the tea boys have a go.

Well you should know better then.
i lived through the black outs
kind of them .. leaving people in the depth of winter in the cold and dark.
late 70s not being able to give relatives a funeral and making grieving loved ones wait.
No point in engaging anymore
Made our views known

BIossomtoes · 02/07/2024 09:57

cavalier · 02/07/2024 09:51

Well you should know better then.
i lived through the black outs
kind of them .. leaving people in the depth of winter in the cold and dark.
late 70s not being able to give relatives a funeral and making grieving loved ones wait.
No point in engaging anymore
Made our views known

Edited

The blackouts were when Heath was PM. I believe he was a Conservative. Or at least that’s what my memory tells me.

schloss · 02/07/2024 10:14

BIossomtoes · 02/07/2024 09:57

The blackouts were when Heath was PM. I believe he was a Conservative. Or at least that’s what my memory tells me.

The blackouts were when Heath was PM, they led to an election where the Tories won the most votes but could not form a coalition government. Labour then formed a minority government and gave the miners a large wage increase which stopped the power cuts.

Inflation was high but it did not stop other unions asking for similar pay rises which the government could not deliver whilst trying to lower inflation - this led to the winter of discontent with many strikes from different workers. This led to the fall of the Labour government.

There are many similarities to the current political situation and one which may become even more similar if there is a Labour win this week in my opinion.

cavalier · 02/07/2024 10:22

BIossomtoes · 02/07/2024 09:57

The blackouts were when Heath was PM. I believe he was a Conservative. Or at least that’s what my memory tells me.

Yes and he didn’t give in to the bully boys either unlike sir sleepy who’s weak and who doesn’t want to work after 6pm on a Friday 😂
wants his horlicks and watch the one show
probably … he’s in for a wee shocker

schloss · 02/07/2024 10:41

cavalier · 02/07/2024 10:22

Yes and he didn’t give in to the bully boys either unlike sir sleepy who’s weak and who doesn’t want to work after 6pm on a Friday 😂
wants his horlicks and watch the one show
probably … he’s in for a wee shocker

Edited

Exactly, and this is why I have my concerns as to how history may repeat itself. There are currently strikes with high pay increase demands which the current government are not agreeing to. An incoming Labour government will most likely agree to the demands. This is turn will lead to further professions/unions wanting payrises. If they are not given, it will mean further strikes, if they are given, inflation is likely to rise. Add to that increased taxation and we will experience stagflation (again), the country will not witness any growth which in turn will lead to further problems.

BigPharma · 02/07/2024 12:11

not so fun fact- the prawn producers cut off one or both eye stalks of the pregnant prawns eyes to make her produce more babies\ ( this messes with her glands that regulate spawning )
😟😱

BIossomtoes · 02/07/2024 12:31

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MyBigFatGreekSalad · 02/07/2024 13:31

I'll be voting conservative.

I think they're scum but the only main party willing to protect women and girls safe spaces.

For that reason alone they'll be getting my vote.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 02/07/2024 13:52

BigPharma · 02/07/2024 12:11

not so fun fact- the prawn producers cut off one or both eye stalks of the pregnant prawns eyes to make her produce more babies\ ( this messes with her glands that regulate spawning )
😟😱

Wtf I did not know this 😳😫

Oakskn · 02/07/2024 13:56

Sometimes people vote conservative due to it being the least bad option. I don’t think there are any great options. Last time I didn’t vote.

cavalier · 02/07/2024 14:03

Oakskn · 02/07/2024 13:56

Sometimes people vote conservative due to it being the least bad option. I don’t think there are any great options. Last time I didn’t vote.

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cavalier · 02/07/2024 14:06

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take that back
you have no right to accuse me of a very serious offence and I will report you if you do not apologise
Nothing on my post shows I am racist which I am not and this is a disgusting response from you

RosaRoja · 02/07/2024 14:18

Blahblah34 · 01/07/2024 11:27

A lot of people who lived through the 70s, 3 day week, 90 tax, strikes, winter of discontent etc will never vote Labour again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week

You forgot to say the 3 day week lasted two months (1.1.1974-7.3.1974) and was introduced by a Tory government.

Three-Day Week - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week

BIossomtoes · 02/07/2024 14:23

cavalier · 02/07/2024 14:06

take that back
you have no right to accuse me of a very serious offence and I will report you if you do not apologise
Nothing on my post shows I am racist which I am not and this is a disgusting response from you

I have asked MN to delete it. I still find your post deeply offensive.

RosaRoja · 02/07/2024 14:25

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent And a bit of history about the winter of discontent that people like to mention but don’t know what it was about.

Winter of Discontent - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

schloss · 02/07/2024 14:28

@RosaRoja I have already posted as to what came next after Heath - the two are linked, so to just point the finger as a 100% Conservative problem is not correct.

RosaRoja · 02/07/2024 14:32

@schloss yes, I think we’ve listened to the same podcasts.

SaltyGod · 02/07/2024 14:34

I like to be liberal and open minded

This has to be a joke thread / poster?!

schloss · 02/07/2024 14:35

RosaRoja · 02/07/2024 14:32

@schloss yes, I think we’ve listened to the same podcasts.

Didn't listen to a podcast, but discussed with my father - he is as good imo!