Labour can't win

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Unless absolutely SHEDLOADS of people who voted Conservative in 2019 vote Labour this time.

That's right, isn't it?

She isn't, she happily repeated Johnson's Saville smears as well.

Do you have a share token, please? I would like to read the whole article.

Sir Keir Starmer opposed the deportation of a rapist who is still living in Britain three years later, it was reported.
Fabian Henry, 40, was imprisoned for attacking a 17-year-old girl twice and for abducting and having sex with a 15-year-old. He was supposed to be deported to Jamaica along with 41 other people but their removal was opposed by Starmer and other politicians.
They endorsed a letter a few days before the flight was scheduled to take off and demanded the cancellation of “all further deportations”, according to the Daily Mail.
Henry was among 25 Jamaican citizens taken off the flight in February 2020 after winning a last-minute appeal. “Fabian Henry is still in Britain. It is despicable that the authorities have not been able to remove this rapist,” a source told the newspaper.
In 2013 Henry was sentenced to 12 years in prison by a judge at Bristol crown court. He denied all the charges against him.
Labour spokesman said: “There is no point in the Home Office trying to blame anyone else for their failure to either deport a dangerous criminal or make sure proper protection measures were in place.
“It’s their failure to sort out their legal systems or put someone on another flight that is responsible. They’ve been in government for 13 years, they can’t just blame everybody else.”
Another person to have been removed from the deportation flight in February 2020 was Damian Morgan, who assaulted an emergency worker weeks afterwards. The 41-year-old was jailed for 15 months at Lincoln crown court in May that year.
Two other convicted drug dealers also removed from the flight are back in British prisons, The Sun reported. Theodore Carlyle was jailed for five years and seven months at Harrow crown court for “possession with intent to supply a class A drug”.
Courtney Javal Williams was convicted of dealing heroin and crack cocaine at Chelmsford crown court and sentenced to four years in prison.
Tory ministers criticised Starmer for signing a letter calling for the deportation flights to be halted — weeks before he was elected leader of the Labour Party.
Greg Hands, chairman of the Conservative Party, said: “These revelations show people are right to be suspicious of Sir Keir Starmer. Only a couple of years ago he was campaigning to keep violent foreign criminals in Britain. But now he’s telling people he’s tough on crime.”
Labour said that Starmer was not involved with processes that let these men stay in the UK, adding: “The idea that a letter from MPs questioning process led to dangerous criminals going on to commit crime is as weak as this government’s running of the Home Office.”

Turkeys voting for christmas.
I was speaking to an older couple I know recently. They are committed Daily Wail readers. When the subject of the election came up the first thing Mr said was he wanted to know what labour would do about “all those benefit scroungers who say they are too ill to work”. There was no sense of irony that they live on disability benefits. I have no issue with that but they apparently believe in the deserving and undeserving disabled and class themselves in the deserving category.
In next breath how he told me how he had stopped work about 15 years ago after not liking his new job so went to his gp and asked to be signed off with stress. When the gp said he would help him get back to work asap he decided he didn’t want to go to work and so claimed carers allowance instead. Again, no problem with that except he does nothing more than a bog standard husband would do for his wife, no actual care.
Then the topic of foodbanks came up after I mentioned I had someone coming to collect donations later and how awful it was that so many people had to rely on them. Mrs then says they know a woman who spends all her money on booze and boasts about getting free food from our local foodbank.
Mrs goes on to say that state schools will be inundated if private schools are taxed because all the rich children would have to go to them. I pointed out that a significant proportion of private school pupils come from families of such wealth tax is annoying to them but hardly a deal breaker. Mrs quoted the DW that some people have to cut down on other things to afford private school at which point I offered to get out my tiny violin.
I told them about tory green paper to replace PIP with vouchers which if it came into effect would slash their income. They knew nothing of this.
I told them about how nhs waiting lists have always risen dramatically under the tories and fallen under labour. This is important as Mrs needs surgery.
I told them that the lib dems are promising free social care. They are both getting on and may well need care at home at some point.
Nothing dents their view that all the problems are due to immigrants and they cannot see that voting tory is actively voting against their own interests. They are working class people living on benefits. I blame Thatcher.

It's not even subtle

This is my constituency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Hallam_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

Its doing exactly what l described. Its a wealthy educated area with some massive fuck off houses. I haven’t seen one Conservative poster.

But all the mansions have vote Labour outside them.

The U.K. is not really consistent with many other countries atm so I wouldn’t draw too much from what it means

Labour would say that. Mr Henry's crimes were committed in 2012 (he had already served a prison sentence) - Starmer opposed his deportation in 2020 shortly before he became Labour leader. Why did Starmer want this man to stay in the country?

Fabian Henry, 40, was imprisoned for attacking a 17-year-old girl twice and for abducting and having sex with a 15-year-old. He was supposed to be deported to Jamaica along with 41 other people but their removal was opposed by Starmer and other politicians.

Because Keir Starmer and Labour are the alternative.

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I'm anti this lying immigrant bstard x.com/burtonlisa/status/1806658041846083658?s=46

But it’s not swinging to the right like let’s of Europe. And it’s a U.K. election, so it doesn’t have to be consistent with Far Right European elections.

Did I?

Hang on, how is UK far right a different sort of far right to European far right?

Does it involve public schools?

That’s not what I’m referring to. We will be going against general trend, although we may see similarities next time

It was more about your point on the left and education. If it were true other educated countries would see similar

It’s just more to do with people feeling annoyed with current gov

Plus globalism isn’t just here and that doesn’t stop immigration being a major factor for outcomes

It was a bit clickbaity wasn't it?

You might blame Thatcher but I blame them. They are adults - Thatcher has been dead for years. At some point it's on them for their wilful and irresponsible stupidity. I hope their benefits do get cut, they shouldn't be on them from what you say.

ETA: sorry, meant to quote the interesting post higher up about the couple.

Unfortunately Reform is going to do fairly well according to quite a lot of polls. Not so well that they'll win, but we'll enough to represent a potential future threat. It's worrying, and I don't think we can be confident that the UK will be an exception to the trends seen elsewhere.

There are lots of factors at play. An ageing/depleted conservative voter base, alongside a swing to the left in young women, and a swing to the right in young men. This is on a population basis, so there will be exceptions, but the trends have been identified.

Is it a bit rough?

Lots of deprivation and older people who left school at 14?

Not an aspirational, well educated, young area?

You can check predictions for your area here from 11 MRPs inglesp.github.io/apogee/

It was more about your point on the left and education. If it were true other educated countries would see similar

It is true.

https://www.smf.co.uk/publications/degrees-of-separation/

Ah yes, because rich old people are never right wing are they?

Are other countries not educated and experiencing globalism?

They are not shifting left. The opposite.

Plus Wales is always Labour. Demographics are not as pp states

Define "well" @TarantinoIsAMisogynist?

I just can't imagine it.