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General election 2024

Labour can't win

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verdantverdure · 29/06/2024 18:46

Unless absolutely SHEDLOADS of people who voted Conservative in 2019 vote Labour this time.

That's right, isn't it?

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Notonthestairs · 29/06/2024 22:01

"There was this in 1992. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that The Sun will do the same this week."

Starmer prosecuted Brooks over phoning hacking. She got off but the trial revealed a lot about their journalism.

Anything the Sun says will be meaningless and not to be trusted.

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 29/06/2024 22:01

Jaydafran · 29/06/2024 21:44

A reform/tory coalition would be great

Jesus fucking Christ 🤦

Cerealkiller4U · 29/06/2024 22:01

Justcallmebebes · 29/06/2024 20:10

Yeah, think that's a given without "inside" knowledge from a baroness. Lol

I didn’t say it was ‘inside’ info

i was just recounting what I was told. No need for the snarky comment 🤷‍♀️

Cerealkiller4U · 29/06/2024 22:02

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 29/06/2024 20:10

I'm not sure why a random baroness would be more convincing than the dozens and dozens of properly conducted polls on this question?

Again never said it was

just imparting what they said

fuck me there’s too many snarky people here tonight

😂😂😂😂😂😂. Funniest thing I’ve read all day

MikeRafone · 29/06/2024 22:04

Jaydafran · 29/06/2024 22:00

Lack of opposition. Kinnock was a joke

he wasn't in power - he was the opposition and Brenda seems to think that labour were in power

Shootingstars999 · 29/06/2024 22:04

MikeRafone · 29/06/2024 21:59

Labour screwed over an awful lot of people in the 80’s & 90’s with the recession
A lot of people lost everything!
They haven’t forgotten about it, so they’ll all be voting for tories

The Torys came into gov. in 1981 and left in 1997 ffs what are you talking about?

Yes. FFS what are you talking about MikeRafone???

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 29/06/2024 22:05

Cerealkiller4U · 29/06/2024 22:02

Again never said it was

just imparting what they said

fuck me there’s too many snarky people here tonight

😂😂😂😂😂😂. Funniest thing I’ve read all day

Someone down the pub told me that Reform were going to win, be taken over by Gove and Cummings so that Russia can annexe the UK and Putin become our tsar.

Jaydafran · 29/06/2024 22:06

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MikeRafone · 29/06/2024 22:09

I can read, its what you have written that is ambiguous

RadFs · 29/06/2024 22:10

I work in health care and had a patient today who was spouting the hatred that the tories have enabled people to express.

Lifeomars · 29/06/2024 22:10

has this thread been started by Conservative Central Office or whatever it calls itself? All I know is that while I am not especially impressed with Labour,another 5 years of Tory misrule will reduce this country to smouldering ruins. Our young people deserve better, better housing, better education, better life chances and a better future. Families deserve better, older people deserve better, I want to see a fairer society, this cannot happen under the current version of the Tory party. The rot and corruption is so deep and the intellect, values and talent pool is so shallow. They are burnt out and used up and need to be stopped. A good few years in the wilderness will give the ones who are left a chance to reflect on how they fell so far

Xtraincome · 29/06/2024 22:10

HauntedPollingBooth · 29/06/2024 21:55

The UK has 5 year Parliaments, not 4...

My apologies. Sorry, I always thought it was 4. I wonder if I have very little measure of time spent in number 10 as there have been so many tories in and out over the years 😆 🤣

BloodyHellKenAgain · 29/06/2024 22:11

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 29/06/2024 22:01

Jesus fucking Christ 🤦

That poster is a troll.

verdantverdure · 29/06/2024 22:11

BrendaSmall · 29/06/2024 21:53

Labour screwed over an awful lot of people in the 80’s & 90’s with the recession
A lot of people lost everything!
They haven’t forgotten about it, so they’ll all be voting for tories

Do you mean when loads of people got repossessed on the 1990s because mortgage interest rates went up to 15%?

My mum's friend got repossessed and had to come and live with us with her kids for a while. And it happened to two of our neighbours too.

Horrible times.

It was under John Major though. And he's a Conservative.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/06/2024 22:11

BrendaSmall · 29/06/2024 21:53

Labour screwed over an awful lot of people in the 80’s & 90’s with the recession
A lot of people lost everything!
They haven’t forgotten about it, so they’ll all be voting for tories

No it was Thatcher that screwed everyone over then.

But you’re correct in that the government of the time screwed them over.

Im sorry for you that it wasn’t Labour😂

Blah12345678999 · 29/06/2024 22:12

If people continue voting for the tories, I don’t want to hear these people complaining about them should they end up in power again!

Dibbydoos · 29/06/2024 22:13

@verdantverdure just short of 60% of voters did not vote conservative last time and because the tories keep moving boundaries so they get more safe seats, I still expect a smattering of tiries in the HofC afyer the election. But Im hoping those MPs actually do work in their local cobsrituency so there is a clear reason who boneheads are still voting for a party that has sold this country to the dogs and made a laughing stock of us all.

Labour is the only opposition with the experience to dtart to steer this ship rather than leaving it to list in readiness for sinking like it currently is.

I hope we get a few more green MPs because Bridtols MP is brilliant.

Reform will get seats, maybe more than tories because Farage is making it an election about immigration - just as he did the Brexit referrendum.

The rest may increase seat numbers too, but a labour government is needed now.

We cannot afford to lose the labour parties biggest success, the NHS completely and we all know we've only got an NHs right now cos the service part is crappy.

So no we dont need loads of defectors, but we need defectors in every tory held seat and esp in safe and marginal seats.

Devonbabs · 29/06/2024 22:13

Lifeomars · 29/06/2024 22:10

has this thread been started by Conservative Central Office or whatever it calls itself? All I know is that while I am not especially impressed with Labour,another 5 years of Tory misrule will reduce this country to smouldering ruins. Our young people deserve better, better housing, better education, better life chances and a better future. Families deserve better, older people deserve better, I want to see a fairer society, this cannot happen under the current version of the Tory party. The rot and corruption is so deep and the intellect, values and talent pool is so shallow. They are burnt out and used up and need to be stopped. A good few years in the wilderness will give the ones who are left a chance to reflect on how they fell so far

But Labour are even less likely to sort this out. They are so ideologically driven they are incapable of devising workable solutions to real world issues.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/06/2024 22:14

Grantshappsotherusrnames · 29/06/2024 21:55

There is no way that the alleged man of the people Sir Keir the Beer who owns development land in Surrey, doesn't know what a woman is Starmer who is a But Jeremy Corbyn puppet who will raise taxes will be elected to be Prime Minister. Not a chance. Tax on education, people will never vote for that.

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Most people support ‘tax on education though’
Most people send their kids to state schools.

VoteOutToHelpOut · 29/06/2024 22:14

CharlieBoo · 29/06/2024 21:39

1992 labour were well ahead in the polls under Neil Kinnock.. Tories still went on to win despite the recession.

Wasn’t there a headline by The Sun newspaper about turning the light off if labour get in?

No. The polls were narrow. Kinnock could only dream of the massive lead Labour has now.

Why are some posters trying to rewrite history?

Porkmarket · 29/06/2024 22:15

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brunettemic · 29/06/2024 22:16

They will win on the basis they’re the big party that aren’t the tories. I’d argue they’re not winning it, the tories are simply losing it.

verdantverdure · 29/06/2024 22:16

Tumbleweed101 · 29/06/2024 21:53

My 18yo will be voting for first time. She was talking about voting reform. I don't know if she will but I do wonder if that is the party her age group is looking at.

Have you asked her why? What does she hope will result from her vote?

My eldest is voting for the first time too.

He's voting tactically to try to stop a Tory from winning our seat and he has explained it in such depth it's like he invented tactical voting or something. Grin

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Grantshappsotherusrnames · 29/06/2024 22:17

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/06/2024 22:14

Most people support ‘tax on education though’
Most people send their kids to state schools.

Surely you have seen the number of threads on the subject?

It is an outrage.

AtomicPumpkin · 29/06/2024 22:17

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 29/06/2024 20:55

This thread is very eye-opening about the levels of reading comprehension and understanding of our electoral process among the general population....

I'd vote for a party that promised to bring in intelligence testing at polling stations, but no party would ever take that risk.