REFORM Party Questions.....

[Modernfamily2011]

Genuine question here, I do not want to start arguments but i'm honestly curious as to the hate for the Reform party....... I will be the first to admit that politics is absolutely not my strong point but this Election and for the last few months I have been doing a lot of research

I will not be voting Conservatives but Labour don't fill me with any confidence either, the Reform party Manifesto actually looks good, I would love the minimum income tax rate to be raised, Stamp Duty threshold to be higher, NHS change, energy bills to be lower etc

Am I just a little naïve and is this just a case of Farage talking nonsense? A bit like the Brexit debacle? Surely if these policies could have been implemented then they would have and where would the money come from? Farage is an excellent speaker and he knows how to play the public, there is no doubt about that

I would love some insight from those who know a little more about politics than me!

Well there is no such thing as illegal immigration, and if we don't have any routes in for migrants fleeing war, famine and all sorts of chaos then at the moment you won't stop the boats.

I think the labour party has said they will get the backlog of claims down, which is a good start, these have soared over the past few years, because the tory government have done nothing to move the claims quickly through the system.

The immigrants 'buggered off' because they either didn't feel welcome, or the effort to getting the right papers to stay was such a faff they couldn't be bothered. If we hadn't have voted for brexit, they would still be here.

@TeaMistress I totally agree - which is why I will be voting Lib Dem where I live (we have a Lib Dem MP currently) and would be happy to vote Lib Dem or Labour depending where I lived- I think both party's have a grasp on reality of what's actually doable -don't appear to have a magic money tree by promising the moon on a stick and intend to govern 'for all' rather than just a certain type of disillusioned pensioner , rabid racists, the economically illiterate , the rich and greedy or your local bunch of 8 hours work a week vegan trustafarians ( not as bad and mean well - but remarkably unrealistic in many areas including business)

@Summernightsinthe21stcentury I totally agree - I actually have a lot of faith in Starmer and reeves being logical and practical

The pivot from “net zero immigration” to “net zero non-essential immigration” is really quite something…

I think they are great policies.
I am planning to set up a party tomorrow, and my manifesto will be to cut taxes, expand healthcare and welfare, upgrade our armed forces, stop immigration, cut bankers bonuses, boost the City of London, level up poorer regions, cut welfare payments to the undeserving, abolish speed limits on motorways, improve road safety, bring back National Service, abolish university fees, and basically Make Britain Great Again.
Vote for me!!!

The thing about writing a manifesto when there is absolutely no chance of winning the election, is that you can make whatever promises you want, no matter how impossible and unrealistic, safe in the knowledge that you will never be expected to make them happen. You can say what you think people want to hear, regardless of whether you even believe it yourself, because you’ll never be in a position to make it happen.

They know that Labour is the competition now, which is why they have added in things around the cost of living which are essentially more left wing economic policies, to appeal to those voters.

But they absolutely cannot deliver them and frankly, I don’t know think they would, even if they were in power. They are impossible but more importantly, Farage will say whatever he thinks people want to hear, just like to gain power. Look at so many of his previous promises and suggestions. He is right wing economically as well as socially. That means more privatisation, less public services and less support for the poorest, not more.

Battery Energy Storage Systems are already commercially viable and are one of the fastest growing areas of renewables. We're literally turning away work and investment because we can't keep up with demand and one of the biggest barriers in the UK is the government's refusal to invest in upgrading / developing new grid connections to facilitate these systems coming online.

The UK genuinely has the chance of become a world leader in a high-skilled, in demand, long-term technology and a net exporter of energy. But instead we're just letting it pass by because half the government holds investments in oil and gas firms and they've somehow managed to convince a good portion of the population that pursuing cheap, clean, secure energy is not in their interest.

@StrawberryEater that's the whole point of it- same with the greens by the way- I don't know why Lib Dem's didn't cotton on years ago!! If it wasn't such a disastrous thought I would actually love these buggers to win just so people could see what utter uncosted bullshit they are being fed-

Massive u-turn from Farage and Reform.
I also note that they have u-turned on shipping migrants to the Falkland Islands.

If they can u-turn on their main policy, why would anyone trust them?

Yes @Crikeyalmighty, agree. I just think it’s so sad that people like the OP might be taken in by it. I guess they saw how well it worked in the Brexit campaign (promise the moon knowing it’s not possible just to force your position through despite the reality) and are doing it again. It’s immoral.

Are you setting up a party or a Ltd Company?

Thank you everyone, again, not everyone will have the same views with regards to politics and I was concerned this thread would start arguments but it’s been very useful

my main concern for Reform/Farage was that he does seem to say all the right things, after Brexit, he disappeared off the face of the Earth and we were left to deal with the fallout and now he’s back doing the same thing!!

myself and my husband both work full time, we have a mortgage, young children and everything has risen in price, from food to petrol and now mortgages and energy bills… it’s not sustainable to live like this

and to answer the same question that keeps being asked… I have read the other parties manifestos, I just wanted to get a clearer picture on the views of the Reform party

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@Anonym00se you don't need to worry, women having equal pay is nothing to do with the Equality Act (which only came in in 2010) or ECHR. Equal pay for women was brought in by the Equal Pay Act 1970. I have been working since 1985 (and had 3 children in the noughties) and throughout that time was always paid the same as the men or I'd have taken them to court.

Thank you for a well balalnce and very accurate picture of Mr Farage. He will do the same again, "disappear" but on a bigger scale, IE p off to the USA

Trust me, Reform has several polices but they are all based on immigration. They are a one trick, donkey!!

You're scared for women's rights but you're going to support a company owned by men, where women subscribers don't get a vote and who plan to remove us from the ECHR?

So Reform don't like immigration, but you predict that their golden shareholder will migrant next month?

Is that in their contract?

I think this thread shows we need to make economics, government & politics & history compulsory subjects.

Perhaps also critical thinking?

The Equality Act 2010 replaced the Equal Pay Act 1970.
Anyone who supports the Equality Act being messed around with really should go and see just how much protection it gives us all. I'm sure there are many unethical business people who would love to see our protections removed.

@SeriaMau - as we are now truly in the 'bar room manifesto stage' when it comes to Farage - here's mine- vote for me

Set up a new arrangement with EU - initially a Norway type deal - where we are not in Schengen and can keep Sterling

Strong social housing building of houses and flats of all sizes in areas people actually want to live including some bungalows for over 55 and disabled use

Bring back DIYSO at 30% initially - shared ownership on the open market - not just new builds -

Sort out the leasehold situation-and restrict service charge rises - certain percentage must go into 'sinking fund' for any long term renovations.

Energy policy- labours policies I would keep

Immigration- labours policies look fine to me and new arrangement with EU would sort some issues anyway

University's- I actually agree with Reform on this god rest my soul- many degrees could be done in 2 years unless very technical like medicine , stem etc -fundFE colleges properly and fully and incentivise students by providing a good (several thousand) completion bonus in areas where the country is short on skills and willing workers , plumbing, building, car mechanics , care etc

NHS - Labour policy fine- utilise private care to get numbers down , up scanners, physios, dieticians, - put back proper minor injuries units in towns of 15,000 plus - and also a small pop in centre open 7am to 10pm staffed by well trained nurses,

Separate out accident type stuff at large A&Es - have a separate section dealing with broken bits, and suspected broken bits, sprains, bad cuts,
Everyone to get a full blood test at private clinic in town every 12 months for free - - charged back to gvt

£5000 bonus at 67 to everyone who has claimed less than £5k from government in last 20 years.

Get rid of right to buy -

Renationalise - water

@Hatfullofwillow - totally- also media studies these days is damn useful- but not just scrutinising Eastenders etc!!

Alot of changes need to be made eg NHS made more European in style, we need growth, UK entitlement way above what we're producing and country likely to go bankrupt under Labour. I have no faith in Reform to deliver changes and won't be in govt but at least they're highlighting issues that other parties ignore and the Tories are proven lying incompetents on a massive scale - I detest them alot more.

The Equality Act 1970 worked perfectly well it didn't need to be replaced, not getting into an argument about the 2010 act but it has caused problems.

He sold the country Brexit, which turned out to be about as beneficial as stabbing ourselves repeatedly in our feet.

I ain't buying what he's selling now, whatever it is.

I never have liked him, but as a country surely it's a case of 'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'.