If you're an undecided voter, what are the issues that are stopping you from deciding?

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As an 'undecided voter', I was watching the Sky News interviews last night and felt myself warming more toward KS. When he started talking honestly about the possible impact on his kids...he suddenly seemed really human, a dad who wanted to pursue this opportunity but wanted to protect his children from the worst of it. However, I'm still undecided.

My politics are usually centre/middle and over the years I've voted Tory and Labour...basically whichever party I felt most aligned with my values.

All I know for sure is that I don't want more of the same and while I am definitely warming to Labour (as well as my local candidate who seems nice) I'm not keen on some others within the party.

I worry that by voting in the seemingly nice people, that it's a door opened to something I can't get on board with. You could equally say the same of the Tories though!!

So I'm wondering if there's any other 'undecided voters' out there (from any side of politics) and what are the issues/policies that are preventing you from being able to make a decision?

CBA to read the whole thread but this was helpful to me when assessing who to vote for: https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/survey Interestingly I came out as mostly Lib Dem, then Green and then Labour - which as a traditional Labour voter shows you how far their policies have drifted right.

No, not flipping between Labour and Tory isn't being tribal! Their basic philosophies are opposites. I can't see how anyone can float between those two if they are paying any kind of attention or thinking about their vote. I've voted other than Labour in the past - both Lib Dem and Plaid Cymru - but those parties at least share some philosophical similarities.

That's what the Tories want you to think so you don't vote. They are definitely lying twats, we have evidence. The other parties? Not so much.
Vote to get the definite lying twats out.

Far left and far right meet in the middle.

Of course other ideas and polices cross at various points.

If you think the current Tories will actually do anything to protect women and girls, I've a bridge to sell you.
All the evidence is they don't care at all and their policies have impacted the most vulnerable women and girls the most. They have started talking about trans issues right now because they think it'll swing a few votes. If they really meant any of it they'd have done something while they had a massive majority. How can you be so easily taken in!

That what voting often is. Least worst is still best even if it's not exactly what you want. Why wouldn't you vote for it?

Did you worry when the Tories had an 80 seat one? 80, 100, 200, makes no odds. If you have a clear majority you can do what you like really. This 'supermajority' nonsense is yet another thing dreamt up by the Tories to try to make people vote for them instead. It's utter bullshit.

@MissScarletInTheBallroom

The shadow education secretary was appallingly on TV this morning. She didn't get it (trans issue) or understand it at all.

At this stage with it becoming more and more main stream how can she be so ignorant on it?

On current polling there are vanishingly few truly safe Tory areas. Vote for whoever is most likely to get them out. They are the ones we know are lying, law breaking charlatans.

She is appalling full stop. Has no understanding of education in the slightest.

@twistyizzy oh dear, I have only just seen her.

Because it might not be the least worst option.

And because sometimes even the least worst option is so bad that you can't in all good conscience put your name to it.

Anyone know where I can find this?

It’s on iplayer. She acquitted herself very well.

You only have the options you have. One will get into power. Why wouldn’t you vote for the least bad? I’m happy to put my name to not making things worse than they have to be.

Well I'm yet to be convinced that the people who are either dishonest or crazy enough to say women have penises (and if you don't agree you're a hateful bigot) are the least worst option.

If they are, I'd rather vote for the asteroid.

All the people who say they have discussed this issue with candidates on their doorstep?

You mean a few MNetters? Outside of this echo chamber people don't care about it. They care about getting rid of the most,corrupt and incompetent government in their living memory.
And as for the scaremongering about Labour and tax increases...which party is to blame for the highest tax burden on people in 70 years? Hint. It's not the one that has been out of power for 14 years.

It must be nice being in such a position of privilege that you can waste votes or risk another 5 years of the Tories wrecking this country and what's left of our public services. For many people, a Labour govt is the only hope they have of a better life.

Help. Looking at my postal vote and honestly can’t decide. Ruling out Conservative and Labour my choices are:

Workers Party
Greens
Yorkshire Party
Lib Dems
Social Democratic
Reform

Laymans terms please, give me strong reasons for ruling any more of these out. The last one is easy I suppose, Farage is a dick.

There is a questionnaire you can do called 'I Side With'. There are a lot (!) of questions and you can rate how important or not that issue is.

I Googled it and came out as slightly higher SDP (but no candidate here) then an even split Green/Labour/Conservative so still not sure. But it was a useful exercise.

Google Vote for Policies. Do the long quiz. Use what it tells you.

Social Democratic Party is pro women.
https://sdp.org.uk/policies/transgender-and-biological-sex-based-rights/

Had a chat to a very pleasant LibDem candidate yesterday. What is a woman? Well bluster bluster. Obv not sure which side of the fence I was. Then said it's toxic on both sides. After a bit of chat where I presented my position (totally on board with JKR) he basically said he agreed, she's a fine woman and a fine author. But the party you stand for don't agree. Well I think they do. "Think" isn't enough, the LibDems are not clear about this. Kemi Badenoch is, Reform are - people aren't stupid, we're not all taken in by the Emperor's New Clothes. LibDems used to be the common sense best bits of both albeit in an unviable party. Now they stand for nothing. Women's and girls safety has to come before everything else, so I can't vote for you.
Really don't want to vote Tory but I can't in all conscience vote for anyone else - what a shitshow

I am politically homeless. Usually a Labour voter but they can’t be trusted to defend women’s rights. Tories corrupt and have been disastrous for the poor and disadvantaged. Greens are lunatics. So are SNP. Reform - never ever. There’s an independent standing in my constituency but very hard to determine what she is actually standing for. So what to do? I don’t want to spoil my ballot but they are all bloody awful.

I feel the same about LibDem. Had a lovely chat with my local candidate, he seemed like a genuinely nice person. And I agreed with everything he said. Until he mentioned transphobia and trans peoples rights to live how they want.

Of course I want them to live in peace and happiness. But womens rights matter. And that means single sex spaces a lot of the time.

So do I vote for them because I agree with most of their policies and just hope for the best? It's a dilemma.

Yes, this is why I'm voting for them. I had a good chat with my local SDP candidate on the doorstep, including about women's rights and was impressed by his straightforward answer. He seemed pretty no-nonsense. This will be the first time I haven't voted for one of the mainstream parties.