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General election 2024

If you're an undecided voter, what are the issues that are stopping you from deciding?

378 replies

tomatoesatbreakfast · 13/06/2024 08:03

As an 'undecided voter', I was watching the Sky News interviews last night and felt myself warming more toward KS. When he started talking honestly about the possible impact on his kids...he suddenly seemed really human, a dad who wanted to pursue this opportunity but wanted to protect his children from the worst of it. However, I'm still undecided.

My politics are usually centre/middle and over the years I've voted Tory and Labour...basically whichever party I felt most aligned with my values.

All I know for sure is that I don't want more of the same and while I am definitely warming to Labour (as well as my local candidate who seems nice) I'm not keen on some others within the party.

I worry that by voting in the seemingly nice people, that it's a door opened to something I can't get on board with. You could equally say the same of the Tories though!!

So I'm wondering if there's any other 'undecided voters' out there (from any side of politics) and what are the issues/policies that are preventing you from being able to make a decision?

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Artesia · 15/06/2024 10:41

crew2022 · 15/06/2024 09:24

I cannot accept Labour's views about trans women and how they are prepared to disadvantage biological women.
This is a serious issue for me and means I can't vote for them. Although I like some of their proposals about nationalising energy company and public transport.
Conservatives can't be trusted either but they are clearer on women's rights.
I might vote Lib Dem but that will be a waste as they won't get in

You don't like labour's stance on women's and trans rights, so you might vote Lib Dem? Depressingly they are even worse than labour on this issue

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 15/06/2024 10:42

I could never vote Tory particularly for this particular type of Tory. They have ruined our economy, our NHS, the schools and have broken down trust in politics to its worst levels ever through corruption, law breaking and playing us for fools.

I am in a pretty safe labour seat, I am a bit conflicted as to whether to vote green because I'm pissed off that they have regained on their initial promise of investing significantly in green energy. I would always vote to get the Tories out because of the damage they have done. It breaks my heart that they have been allowed to get away with so much and people still might vote for them. I blame a lot of this on years of right wing media and people voting on false promises of personal gain.

Gall10 · 15/06/2024 10:44

AlwaysaLittleBitTired · 14/06/2024 14:53

I am on the fence.
I want to see a change in government - it's time. However, our latest MP is Conservative, and very effective. They are a local, I can see the work they do is conscientious and seemingly effective, they're generally a sound prospect and as likeable as you could hope any politician to be. The Opposing candidate is a 'parachute' candidate who clearly has yet to grasp that their campaigning needs to be tied to local issues rather than just repetition of Keir Starmer manifesto/policy points.
A Labour vote here feels like the proverbial cutting off your nose to spite your face. Which is the bigger picture - local or national?

Your sitting MP very likely voted for benefit cuts, bedroom tax & probably brexshit…if you’re happy with this then you know where to put your cross.

DBD1975 · 15/06/2024 11:04

To everyone saying they won't vote this just incenses me. It wasn't that long ago women were throwing themselves under horses for a woman's right to vote. Anyone who doesn't do so, due to apathy, or not being able to make their minds up, do the research and make a decision.

To all women who don't vote on 04/07 hang your heads in shame.

Cismyfatarse · 15/06/2024 11:43

Putting teachers' jobs at risk with 20% VAT on fees. I don't have school aged children but this will affect many friends. And sex / gender both put me off voting Labour.
LibDems are lunatics, as are the Greens.

SNP worse (plus gender).

So, will probably spoil my ballot.

I have voted Tory in the past but can't now for a million reasons. But they do know what a woman is.

CheshireCat1 · 15/06/2024 11:48

I’m a woman, a mother, and a daughter, so I’m voting Labour, for myself, my elderly Mum and my children and their future.

Livinghappy · 15/06/2024 11:51

Women's rights is top of my agenda as I see so many areas where our rights are potentially being rolled back. There is complacency amongst younger women who assume nothing will really change.

Lib Dem & Greens are even more anti women rights, than Labour and & the Tories have to go. So very undecided and I can't see much changing between now and election day.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 15/06/2024 11:51

DBD1975 · 15/06/2024 11:04

To everyone saying they won't vote this just incenses me. It wasn't that long ago women were throwing themselves under horses for a woman's right to vote. Anyone who doesn't do so, due to apathy, or not being able to make their minds up, do the research and make a decision.

To all women who don't vote on 04/07 hang your heads in shame.

You have failed miserably to understand having the RIGHT to vote and NOT having the right to vote!!!

We, well I don't live in Russia/chia/north korea/Autrial etc where you are fined for not voting

Our grandparents/realtives fought for fREEDOM - Freedome is a CHOICE and that is a fact

Therefore having the rIGHT to vote is completely different to what you are posting about and that is a fact, like it or not

I retian the right NOT to vote if the only choices are idiots that tell lies.

ComfyBoobs · 15/06/2024 11:53

I am a lifelong labour voter but cannot accept their position on women’s rights. I appreciate that there are many other issues but this is HUGE for me and destroys my faith in their competence more generally.

itsgettingweird · 15/06/2024 11:56

I'm a floating voter,

Absolutely not voting Tory as Braverman is my MP.

Not buying into the Labour being dangerous for woman clap trap. I've seen what's happened to woman under this current government including being the parent of a disabled teen, a single parent, working in education and having a child in education and the erosion of the nhs.

All of these have personally affected me as a woman. Not 1 trans person has and I've encountered quite a few.

I really like the greens manifesto but I don't think they will govern well.

I'm liking the LD on many policies but not so much others.

I prefer Labour but do have concerns about them leaving some of their Labour ideologies but I think finances of the country will impact that and like their ideas for change.

It'll be whichever party aligns most with my values or possibly a tactical vote to wave goodbye to Braverman 🧐

susiedaisy1912 · 15/06/2024 11:58

As an undecided voter my issue is actually believing that any party will actually stick to their promises. I feel so disheartened by promise after promise being broken or renegade on. 14 years the tories have had to either improve or redesign the nhs and we are now in a worse state than when they started. Class sizes still way too big, mental health services getting worse, police resources more stretched, social and community care in dire straights. It's all just depressing. I don't think the British public are too greedy in what we want, for the most part we want good social services, an income we can live off of and a house prices that are affordable, it's really not that big of a list. Why does it seem so unattainable?

TuesdayWhistler · 15/06/2024 11:58

There is NO party I actually want to vote FOR.

Some people are basing their vote on anyone but Tory, legitimate tactic I suppose.

But there's no party that I can really support properly.

I don't want to spoil my balot.

So I don't know.

Tomorrow I'll want to vote Tory, Monday I'll want to vote Reform, Tuesday, I'll want to vote for no one and on and on it'll go.

Anonym00se · 15/06/2024 12:01

Peeppuandpopo · 14/06/2024 16:42

Yeah I guess if you are financially stable with no money worries why not vote Tory.
I know loads of folk who moan incessantly about public services, the decline of their home town, the effects of Brexit etc but for some reason Labour are worse.
Find it quite depressing that even though all the tories policies have by and large failed they’ll still be given another chance.
Reform voters where I live tend to be the left behind, worst off tbh. Things cannot get any worse. Theirs is a protest vote pure and simple but as usual no one listens. I think there’ll be a huge shock coming re Reform UK. Brexit was the first, now this. I reckon at some point if things don’t improve there’ll be civil unrest.

I agree with you re Reform, but it’s hugely frustrating that those same voters had their “protest” in 2016 and look how that ended up. They don’t say “Well the last time I listened to Farage, it turns out he was full of shit and it’s caused enormous damage to the country and immigration is higher than ever”. They’ll just hurtle headlong into making the same mistake twice. “I’m really pissed off with the current government so I’ll cut my own nose off in protest”. It’s crazy.

Passiflora2 · 15/06/2024 12:05

CheshireCat1 · 15/06/2024 11:48

I’m a woman, a mother, and a daughter, so I’m voting Labour, for myself, my elderly Mum and my children and their future.

You are voting for a party that wants to erode women’s rights? I don’t understand.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 15/06/2024 14:12

To everyone saying they won't vote this just incenses me. It wasn't that long ago women were throwing themselves under horses for a woman's right to vote.

What makes you think those women wanted women to feel forced to vote? I'd vote for women to have the right to have an abortion or to join the army. That doesn't mean I think they should all have to.

Pourmeanotherwine · 15/06/2024 17:08

"You are voting for a party that wants to erode women’s rights? I don’t understand."

I'm also voting Labour or maybe green. Because I care about a woman's right to a fair wage, a place to live, Healthcare, education for her children, and I care about a future for those children where climate change has been limited.

Araminta1003 · 15/06/2024 17:17

I am going completely local this time and voting Lib Dem for that reason because our local candidate is great.

I think Starmer and Reeves are generally Centrist but Starmer is lying about taxation on private schools, so I can no longer trust him either. He must be a snake if he is happy to throw disabled children under the bus, even the threat itself makes me feel sick for families in that position.

Lib Dem the main issues I like are a commitment to want to get back in the Single Market long term and the acknowledgement of how important Education is. I don’t like some of their wokeism, but have decided that is secondary to me.

I cannot vote conservative because they made a mess anyway and I do not believe in “conserving” what is there already, especially not when it is shite.

I am really hoping the Lib Dem’s do well and that I can stick with them long term. Already voted for them in 2019.

Mycatsmudge · 15/06/2024 17:21

No one is being honest with the public. Labour pledged Free breakfast clubs, more teachers, dentists etc and from their manifesto this will be paid for from taxing non sons (who will probably go elsewhere like Rishis wife), making private schools pay VAT and making green industries profitable🤔. If we want these things then taxes will have to rise imo for ordinary working people like me. Do I want my taxes to rise while I’m just about managing on a month to month basis obviously not so there is my dilemma

Mycatsmudge · 15/06/2024 17:22

Non Doms

YeahWhateverGoAway · 15/06/2024 17:31

UtterlyOtterly · 14/06/2024 17:23

The Tories have trashed the country.

Labour, LibDems and Greens are willing to give away women's rights to males. The man canvassing for Labour was unable to give a sensible definition of a woman when I asked for one. He blustered and spluttered for a bit until I shut the door in his face

Not at all sure what I will do on 4 July. I don't believe a word of any of their manifestos.

This is exactly how I feel.

I dislike the Tories, but the other parties will give away my rights.

I voted Labour for years (from a council estate background, voting Tory was for the posh people). Last election I switched, mainly as Corbyn wanted to decimate an industry I work in.

This time; I really want to vote Labour but can't bring myself too, Tory support the industry I am in, I earn a good wage, not enough for private schooling my DD, but enough for decent extra curriculars and tutors if needed.

I want schools to be better, I want the teacher crisis sorting, I want the NHS better, but I want that without the whole gender crap that Labour are peddling.

I have never been as politically homeless as I am right now. It's so bloody difficult.

Pritas · 15/06/2024 17:31

@Validus

I don’t want politicians to be ‘human’. I want them to be logical, grounded thinkers who aren’t pushed off track by the slightest breeze of dissent or criticism.
Agree with your whole post especially this. I'd also like politicians to be experts in something, have experience in real jobs. Not 21 years old straight from uni.
I'm very happy with most of labour's policies and I thought KS spoke well on the last leader debate, especiallyaround the change of directionof the party. Don't agree with their gender policies but I don't think it's a deal breaker. I voted tory last time because of Corbyn and his crowd. I hope KS keeps the lid on them.

MMMarmite · 15/06/2024 17:49

I won't vote for the Tories, because of their contempt for the public during lockdown, and their crap record on the environment.

But I'm not particularly inspired by Labour. They don't seem to have any inspiring plans, just more of the same. Anything that might actually change things gets ruled out as too radical.

Passiflora2 · 15/06/2024 17:59

Pourmeanotherwine · 15/06/2024 17:08

"You are voting for a party that wants to erode women’s rights? I don’t understand."

I'm also voting Labour or maybe green. Because I care about a woman's right to a fair wage, a place to live, Healthcare, education for her children, and I care about a future for those children where climate change has been limited.

A woman’s right to fair wage? How do you work that out when they don’t know what a woman is?

drawnfrommemory · 15/06/2024 18:04

There is NO party I actually want to vote FOR.

This is my problem as well. I got my postal vote today and just looked at it and I'm still undecided.

I'm in a borough that evern with boundary changes, will be a big Labour majority so ultimately my vote doesn't really make that much of a difference. Plus, I don't know the new Labour candidate as our current MP is standing in a different constituency.

I think I'm going to go to the local hustings and make my mind up then based on the actual candidates.

antshouse · 15/06/2024 18:15

I have never voted Tory but cannot vote for any other party that is willing to throw women and girls under the bus in order to 'be kind' to 0.1 percent of the population who demand access to biological females' spaces.