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General election 2024

Seeing as it’s anonymous… where is your vote going?

515 replies

Wheresyourvote · 10/06/2024 20:32

My views -

Conservative - Potentially had a tough ride with Covid & brexit aftermath to navigate. However, looking at the state of the NHS & the ever increasing price rises in almost everything… how could I vote them in again?

Labour - Almost feels like the only likely alternative. Change is as good as any? But Keir starmer does precisely 0 for me. I cannot get passionate about him.

Greens - Won our constituency a while ago, whilst I appreciate what they stand for the changes they made locally have had a negative impact on the average citizen IMO.

Reform - Nigel Farage is DIFFERENT, I don’t think that can be denied. Part of me thinks bold and controversial is what we need and the other thinks he is a brilliant campaigner and is just playing up to the people trying to act like ‘one of the working class’ to garner votes.

Where is your vote going?

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SharonEllis · 14/06/2024 16:02

Wheresyourvote · 10/06/2024 20:32

My views -

Conservative - Potentially had a tough ride with Covid & brexit aftermath to navigate. However, looking at the state of the NHS & the ever increasing price rises in almost everything… how could I vote them in again?

Labour - Almost feels like the only likely alternative. Change is as good as any? But Keir starmer does precisely 0 for me. I cannot get passionate about him.

Greens - Won our constituency a while ago, whilst I appreciate what they stand for the changes they made locally have had a negative impact on the average citizen IMO.

Reform - Nigel Farage is DIFFERENT, I don’t think that can be denied. Part of me thinks bold and controversial is what we need and the other thinks he is a brilliant campaigner and is just playing up to the people trying to act like ‘one of the working class’ to garner votes.

Where is your vote going?

Could I ask why you need to feel passionate about the Prime Minister? I'm quite political so I like a rousing speech etc but I'm very happy to settle for competent in the circumstances & I don't feel the need for passion.

SharonEllis · 14/06/2024 16:06

G123456789 · 10/06/2024 20:46

Tory, good sitting mp. But Christ the party has run out of ideas

Labour are just Tory light (again) but with a large number of very left wing members who could oust Starmer and bring in their own person (it will be a man)

Lib dems...who?

Greens ridiculous policies that will cost a fortune, pandering to the green lobby has already helped push up fuel bills, committed us to electric cars which are basically a tax on the poor and a technology that will be redundant in 10 years

Reform are hated by the press esp the BBC who have even tried to stoke a left wing push in the eu elections with their stories on the "ultra right" so will not be able to do anything without huge criticism and the left making maximum disruption

The Welsh and Scottish nationalist can't run a piss up at George Best's house, thank God I don't have to consider these corrupt idiots

So overall we're stuffed

What's your evidence that there are a lot of left members in Labour now? Starmer was elected by the membership and there's no evidence that there has been a wave of left candidates being voted in by the membership for this election. The new crop of MPs are likely to be pretty loyal to him.

G123456789 · 14/06/2024 16:42

SharonEllis · 14/06/2024 16:06

What's your evidence that there are a lot of left members in Labour now? Starmer was elected by the membership and there's no evidence that there has been a wave of left candidates being voted in by the membership for this election. The new crop of MPs are likely to be pretty loyal to him.

Given that party membership jumped in 2017 with what was acknowledged at the time as lots of left wing new members to over 550,000 members. Whilst there has been a drop off, over 395k are still members, which is considerably higher than pre Corbyn. Therefore, it's a concern that starmer could be ousted and replaced my a more leftist leader.

RobinStrike · 14/06/2024 16:45

I find the emphasis on the PM or Cabinet having charisma depressing. It helps when getting elected, but they could be utterly robotic as far as I'm concerned if they could run the country for the benefit of the people and not give millions to their mates. Most CEOs or top surgeons or top scientists aren't the life and soul of the party. Why do politicians have to be fun and extrovert?

paolo2145 · 14/06/2024 17:17

David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Tony Blair were all considered charismatic leaders and yes they did have charisma but look what happened. Especially with Boris Johnson who literally lied from the moment he got into power to the moment he left. Give me a more boring, honest and hard working PM any day of the week than a charismatic chancer like Boris.

Northernnature · 14/06/2024 17:26

It is possible to have charisma and be highly competent- I would argue that Mrs T had both. A leader needs to have a certainly amount of charm otherwise people don't want to follow. Unfortunately I believe KS neither has charisma or competence 🙁

Muchtoomuchtodo · 14/06/2024 17:31

I’d like to vote Plaid Cymru but realistically in our constituency the only way to get the Tories out will be to vote Labour

SlowerMovingVehicle · 14/06/2024 17:46

Green. Large-scale Green support, even if their MPs not elected this time, is the only way to get environmental issues addressed. Even if it's too late to solve most of the problems, at least the water system might get a look-in.

And the housing crisis, damp, bad insulation etc is an actual crisis.

SlowerMovingVehicle · 14/06/2024 17:48

Northernnature · 14/06/2024 17:26

It is possible to have charisma and be highly competent- I would argue that Mrs T had both. A leader needs to have a certainly amount of charm otherwise people don't want to follow. Unfortunately I believe KS neither has charisma or competence 🙁

I would argue it was NPD, not charisma. Horrendous woman.

Northernnature · 14/06/2024 18:13

No idea what NPD is, but most of the electorate didn't agree with you!

AddersAtDawn · 14/06/2024 18:20

Northernnature · 14/06/2024 18:13

No idea what NPD is, but most of the electorate didn't agree with you!

I think narcissistic personality disorder

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 18:26

G123456789 · 14/06/2024 16:42

Given that party membership jumped in 2017 with what was acknowledged at the time as lots of left wing new members to over 550,000 members. Whilst there has been a drop off, over 395k are still members, which is considerably higher than pre Corbyn. Therefore, it's a concern that starmer could be ousted and replaced my a more leftist leader.

I've heard some theories that Labour membership jumped as lots of Conservatives joined in order to keep Corbyn as leader as they knew he was unelectable. Corbyn was the best thing that happened to the Conservative Party.

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 18:30

paolo2145 · 14/06/2024 17:17

David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Tony Blair were all considered charismatic leaders and yes they did have charisma but look what happened. Especially with Boris Johnson who literally lied from the moment he got into power to the moment he left. Give me a more boring, honest and hard working PM any day of the week than a charismatic chancer like Boris.

Boris Johnson was a proven liar for a good decade before he got into power, and has continued since leaving it.

Wethairwendy · 14/06/2024 18:46

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 18:30

Boris Johnson was a proven liar for a good decade before he got into power, and has continued since leaving it.

And Tony Blair caused a war by lying and possibly the death of the Dr David Kelly who had evidence it was untrue. And he is STILL being used on TV. The man should be in jail he is a psychopath.

Both Tory & Labour should be ashamed of their conduct over the past 20 years. They are both as bent as each other. Dont kid yourself they are not.

This is why people are voting for reform as they have had enough.

I have no idea who I vote for it will probably be tactical - but definitely not Labour.

G123456789 · 14/06/2024 18:58

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 18:26

I've heard some theories that Labour membership jumped as lots of Conservatives joined in order to keep Corbyn as leader as they knew he was unelectable. Corbyn was the best thing that happened to the Conservative Party.

I won't disagree with the corbyn statement, but the fact he got elected at all chills my blood as it proves that the hard left can still get into power.

I'm a Tory voter, but not this time, I think I need to vote reform/lib dems (just can't bring myself vote Labour) which could well remove our sitting tory.

BigFatSoberLife · 14/06/2024 19:00

I almost always vote Labour, so probably will stick with that. I don't like LibDem or Green and the Tories seem to have decimated public services with lack of funding

Hyperions · 14/06/2024 19:02

Tory, I don't like the fact that Rishi is being shafted by his own party and that David Cameron seemed to stab him in the back on DDay commemorations. But my local prospective conservative mp is good and on the ball and will stand up for women's rights.

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 19:11

Wethairwendy · 14/06/2024 18:46

And Tony Blair caused a war by lying and possibly the death of the Dr David Kelly who had evidence it was untrue. And he is STILL being used on TV. The man should be in jail he is a psychopath.

Both Tory & Labour should be ashamed of their conduct over the past 20 years. They are both as bent as each other. Dont kid yourself they are not.

This is why people are voting for reform as they have had enough.

I have no idea who I vote for it will probably be tactical - but definitely not Labour.

Absolutely. Don't confuse any disdain I have for BoJo for support for Blair. I think he, BoJo, Cameron, and everyone that came since are joint worst of my lifetime.

It's a long time since politics has had any form of competence.

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 19:16

G123456789 · 14/06/2024 18:58

I won't disagree with the corbyn statement, but the fact he got elected at all chills my blood as it proves that the hard left can still get into power.

I'm a Tory voter, but not this time, I think I need to vote reform/lib dems (just can't bring myself vote Labour) which could well remove our sitting tory.

You mean elected to the leader of the party? Yeah, what were they thinking? It does support the view that it was down to an influx of Conservatives. Then again, look at the US. Are Trump and Biden really the best their respective sides can put forth? It is truly stunning.

I know what you mean, I am politically homeless. I cannot ever vote Conservative again due to Brexit, and I am not convinced by Labour. Also, Labour would be a wasted vote where I live, so it will probably be Lib Dem. The candidate seemed like a decent fellow. He, at least, did his own canvassing.

Wethairwendy · 14/06/2024 20:17

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 19:11

Absolutely. Don't confuse any disdain I have for BoJo for support for Blair. I think he, BoJo, Cameron, and everyone that came since are joint worst of my lifetime.

It's a long time since politics has had any form of competence.

Sorry! Yes I agree. I honestly can’t believe these muppets are running the country :(

There is a few women I’d cherry pick from each side to make up a party. I actually think Starmer could have done an Ok job. He is intelligent and seems to have kept his nose clean but I was so so disappointed when he buckled under the TRA pressure. And if your not brave enough to define what a women is then he isn’t the man.

Wethairwendy · 14/06/2024 20:19

HappiestSleeping · 14/06/2024 19:16

You mean elected to the leader of the party? Yeah, what were they thinking? It does support the view that it was down to an influx of Conservatives. Then again, look at the US. Are Trump and Biden really the best their respective sides can put forth? It is truly stunning.

I know what you mean, I am politically homeless. I cannot ever vote Conservative again due to Brexit, and I am not convinced by Labour. Also, Labour would be a wasted vote where I live, so it will probably be Lib Dem. The candidate seemed like a decent fellow. He, at least, did his own canvassing.

Imagine Trump and Biden being the very best US has to offer 🤯🤯🤯🤯

I don’t think we are really in charge of who gets in anymore tbh. ( grabs my tin foil hat)

1dayatatime · 14/06/2024 21:20

@BigFatSoberLife

"and the Tories seem to have decimated public services with lack of funding"

I think in two years time you will saddened to discover that Labour will have equally decimated public services with lack of money simply because the money is not there, it can't be easily borrowed (as Liz Truss found out the hard way) and for the meagre amount of extra spending that Labour is planning is based on the assumption that the economy will grow at the fastest rate in the G7.

It's simply not going to happen.

Mayhemmumma · 14/06/2024 22:11

Green - I'm sick of tactical voting, so I'm voting with my consciousness.

Mayhemmumma · 14/06/2024 22:13

conscience rather

fiddleleaffig · 14/06/2024 23:31

I really hope labour win, but I'm actually voting Green as they most align with my values. Obviously they won't win overall, but I'm tired of being made to think the only choice is red or blue and that I'm wasting my vote if I don't pick one of them.
Labours manifesto just isn't making enough changes for me

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