Rishi thinks we've turned a corner. Does it feel like we have

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Rishi keeps saying we've turned a corner, but does it really feel like we have. Do people feel better off, or less worse off.

A case in point from my very small world view. I know a mum of a 4 month old and a 3 yo who has today lost her home. The rent was put up from £600 pcm to £875. She's had to move in with her parents until temporary accommodation becomes available.

Housing is just one of the things that absolutely do not feel lime they are improving and have only got much worse under 14 years of the conservatives. So how can we trust that the next 5 years will be any better.

He's talking the words he thinks we want to hear, but why not have delivered it before if that's what they could do?

I pay more for my mortgage and more in tax for crap public services than I ever did under Labour. Yet what I am hearing is that I should have a tax cut and no commitment on public services. Why should I believe these people on child benefit, NiCs, or “management” of the economy (they have consistently damaged the country’s ability to grow, Brexit, implementation of Brexit, pretending to be in charge of financial markets in the Truss budget so there could be tax cuts are egregious examples). Rubbish. I do not believe any of it.

Brexit- badly mishandled by the tories. They pissed off the EU with their demands and used it as a platform to lower living standards (refusing the vet agreement, chlorinated chicken, immigration for example).

When the fuel prices went up, they could and should have put a windfall tax on the businesses. They opted to use taxpayers money to subsidise them instead.

Ukraine is a convenient excuse to hide behind.

We are still paying for Covid. I fell in the group that received no furlough (although my work stopped) but heard all about how amazing it was. EOTHO was a joke.

These were choices the tories made, the didn't just happen, but they can't even stand by them and admit they fucked up. They aren't going to learn and we will never turn a corner with them in charge.

Nope.

Everything is worse after 14 years of Tory mismanagement:

• NHS, social care, NHS dentistry is a mess because of underinvestment and complete disinterest from the government
• high utility bills ( rampant profiteering by companies has been allowed)
• high transport costs (same as above privatisation has meant poor service but increasingly high prices)
• teachers leaving the profession in droves
• disabled/ill/older people being demonised and left to rot
• Brexit
• housing crisis: ridiculous rents and Liz Truss making it even harder for people to buy a home when she damaged the economy
• corruption and contracts for rich mates
• shit in rivers and sea
• tax thresholds remaining frozen...

It is endless really.

Sunak is a nasty, arrogant and delusional little liar who only cares about his self-interest. Can' t wait to see the back of him..

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator you are equally delusional...scare mongering and making things up seem to be all the Tories have left these days.

Heard on the radio this morning that Labour has historically always left number 10 with a higher unemployment rate than when they came in = fact!!!

Turned a corner. What a laugh. Along with all the other sudden promises, after 14 years of being in office!

So you heard it on the radio... that does not make it a fact, you know.

We all know there are facts and then there are DSC facts.

I am so sorry to hear this

There is all this stuff in the media about rich boomers but the other side is that there are many vulnerable elderly people who are also being failed by the government.

I am a millennial and while i have a big London mortgage, can only get a GP when i use my company healthcare (it is also shit but i can at least get an appointment even if they need handholding to email a prescription) and my DH has to do his sperm test at home 10 miles away (cos the hospital has no private room), I can at least advocate for myself. It is the elderly and sick who are the most vulnerable and the tories just ignore that despite portraying themselves as the party of pensioners

@LuluBlakey1 and how do you expect any government to force private companies to give a better service? 🤔 unless we nationalise everything...

How does historical data about unemployment relate to OP's question?

Why haven't you mentioned "back door" and "socialist" like 99% of your posts?

Are you ok Bud?

Unemployment fell under a Labour government in 1924.

So your fact is not in fact a fact.

In fact, my fact might be wrong too.

Unemployment data is collected and measured differently and to suit all kinds of political purposes thus making most unemployment data unreliable/a complete work of fiction = fact!!!

So if a Labour coalition slipped into number 10 via the back door, they are not going to raise taxes??😂

We do always end up in recession with Labour , that is a fact! Overspending and fiscal instability and incompetence has always been an issue historically.

Vote Conservative by all means if you want to work until you die to pay medical bills and if you are happy to carry on being ruled by boys who went to Eton and Oxford and refer to you as a 'pot plant'.

Vote Conservative if you want to see workers paying some of the highest taxes ever.

Vote Conservative if you want the country to keep missing house building targets.

Vote Conservative if you don't want social housing to be available for those in need - the sick, young, elderly, key workers.

Vote Conservative if you want NHS workers to get lower than inflation pay rises that make them poorer than they were 10 years ago leaving many dependent on food banks.

Vote Conservative for continuing cuts and shortfalls in the defence budget

Vote Conservative if you want Jacob Rees Mogg et al pulling Sunak's strings

Vote Conservative if you want state education to be run further into the ground so that those working 80 hours a week to raise their children have to send them to crumbling, underfunded and under resourced schools run by teachers who are on their knees after 14 years of Conservative education failures.

Vote Conservative if you want inequality - where the rich get rich and the poor get poorer and the social services and care safety net is pulled from under their feet.

I urge you to look up the main definition of a public servant then look up Sunak and other Conservative MP's voting records.

Interested to hear your thoughts on the current Conservative party's performance in relation to the economy over the last 14 years.

Also, 2008 recession caused by the housing bubble bursting in the US which led to subsequent financial crises in other countries.....but you know that don't you.

You actually don't know what the word fact means.

Phew that's better, back your normal drivel, I was getting worried about you Bud.

It is caused by greed for money - same as the behaviour if energy and water-companies. The government has encouraged it. They set a tone and allow all kinds of appalling service to be provided - they can up the powers of ombudsmen and make it clear the kind of consequences they expect. They can limit price rises- as the Wilson government did. The tone this government have set for 14 years is making rich people richer, asset-stripping, huge dividends to shareholders and massive salaries to CEOs.

They need to do more for the most vulnerable. They can tax them more and invest the money in better public services. They can limit things like the amount of properties anyone can own - to say 2 so that ordinary people can stand a chance of buying houses where they live. They can give councils money to build social housing that can not be bought and remains as decent quality social housing. They can raise pensions- reducing NI and stamp duty for first -time buyers does not in anyway help pensioners- many of whom still live in poor conditions. They still pay tax but do not benefit from NI cuts- infact, along with children, disabled people, and the chronically sick they are very adversely affected by these.

Well, if they do end up in a coalition, that would be a completely legitimate outcome of the democratic process. Coalitions happen when the electorate choose not to give one single party a mandate to govern. It happens all the time in other countries. To suggest that it is in any way shady by using the phrase 'by the back door ' is to fundamentally disrespect British values and British democracy. Do you respect democracy?

And don't worry, it won't happen. There will be a substantial Labour majority.

It’s likely to be a hung parliament.

What evidence have you based that on?

Of course it is. 🙄

What ‘evidence’ do you have that it won’t be? No one has voted yet! And the polls always get it wrong.

and this fact will be proven on 5th July!!!

Sadly, Sunaks mistake that has been jumped on especially by the right wing and the dangerous fool that led England for a couple of and almost bankrupted it/Truss will not be forgiven and rightly so - so it is looking likely that the scoailst leader/Starmer along with a coalition partner will slip through the back door and do a worse job than the infamous, Truss,

Those that have or are asperational will be hit the hardest, very hard indeed!!

Well, the polling company who has called each election correctly for the last decade has this election for Labour and by a large majority. They called it for the Conservatives correctly last time, and so the “polls are not always wrong”