Rishi thinks we've turned a corner. Does it feel like we have

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Rishi keeps saying we've turned a corner, but does it really feel like we have. Do people feel better off, or less worse off.

A case in point from my very small world view. I know a mum of a 4 month old and a 3 yo who has today lost her home. The rent was put up from £600 pcm to £875. She's had to move in with her parents until temporary accommodation becomes available.

Housing is just one of the things that absolutely do not feel lime they are improving and have only got much worse under 14 years of the conservatives. So how can we trust that the next 5 years will be any better.

He's talking the words he thinks we want to hear, but why not have delivered it before if that's what they could do?

I feel like we have imo. For me I now have £100 more each month since the NI tax cuts, my food shop is going down in price. Definitely notice my gas and elec is down and not just cos I'm using less e.g. not heating the house.

Obviously council tax went up but all in all right now I feel we have.

Buts thays just me looking at it from my own personal perspective

I suspect @DistinguishedSocialCommentator is experiencing some difficulties obtaining suitable medication.

We've had massive tax and price rises - my wages have in no eay kept pace and rhe NI cut is tiny.

Yes but economies go through cycles and it's been tough but like I said imo it's easing off we seem to be turning a corner and having tax cuts or reducing tax back after it was risen is to me a sign we have. It might be tiny but at least it's not going up anymore. Hence why I feel we have turned a corner.

I am massively worse off, there's no sign of an improvement - if we have another 5 years of Tory government it looks like there will be spending cuts and tax thresholds will remain frozen and my wages will be held at below inflation rises unless I can get another job which is proving really difficult at present.

At least we have a chance to turn the corner away from this corrupt decitful government.

He’s been saying this since the beginning of the year. As a business owner this has been the worst yet for residential sales. Most people are concurring our thoughts, although some at the super high end and those offering same services at undercut prices / low quality are doing better - from what I have heard.

But this last week!! I don’t know what’s happened. Big Commercial which has been super quite since Jan is suddenly in a buoyant mood and we have enquiries left right and centre. Somethings going on and I have no idea what 🤷‍♀️

We’ve all seen the massive decline in public services including the NHS as well as out of control rent and the huge raft of support services they cut when coming into power Sure Start, many youth initiatives etc . Not to mention wage stagnation for many, aside from those on minimum wage I guess.

So yes my pay packet seems to be £100 more and my energy supplier said gas is supposedly going down in price but it doesn’t begin to compensate for all the damage they have wreaked.

I worked as a family support worker in 2010, the cuts and changes which the Tory Dem government made in the name of austerity which was a political choice were swift and immediate with swift and immediate terrible consequences to the families I worked with!

Hopefully but you never know!

I have lived in this country for 12 of the 14 years of Tory rule. I think I’ve given it a chance as I initially didn’t think they were all bad.

But if they get voted in again I’m off.

No bitterness no drama - everyone can vote for who they want to, but it’s not working for me to live under the Tories so I will relocate.

Good for you I wish I could go somewhere less Tory but I can't

It's not turned a corner in my city...knife crime is increasing exponentially. The number of young people who have been killed or hospitalised so far this year is absolutely tragic and must be a record. Just this week there have been at least two attempted murders.

The streets are awash with masked up roadmen on scooters, and spice zombies. Addiction and homelessness is everywhere you look.

It is the rate that this is increasing, that is one of the most shocking things about it. This is an affluent city in the south. It is sad, depressing and getting quite scary now.

A corner has not been turned.

Unfortunately Liz Truss/Kwantang and Cameron/Osbourne sunk the UK economy with a special blend of stupidity and cruelty.

Of course they have all made millions of pounds when truly they should be in prison.

Anyways ... Labour will be no different. I just wonder if they can get worse than the Tories?

Yes, I totally understand it’s not realistic ( nor necessarily desirable) for most people to relocate.

Well everyone will have a different perspective based on their own circumstances.

Childcare and schooling costs in this country are absolutely bonkers! So we are off to Spain! Adiós! And we've been in very good jobs (but with zero job security) and I'm still flabbergasted the childcare is £100 a day. Where I'm from (not Spain) that's closer to what you'd pay a month! The current UK isn't working for the hard working high earners nor for the poorest of the poor. Good luck

Sounds super scary, where is this? And what in your view is the solution?

I was forced to turn a corner from a house in a nice street with lovely neighbours. Landlord tried selling the house with me still there, when it didn't sell for the money he wanted he tried putting the rent up from £850 to over a £1000. I found a smaller place round a couple of corners, put my eldest son in assisted living and stopped being his carer, snap decisions because I had no other choice. I was lucky to find somewhere else.
A landlord somewhere is making a killing out of the government, £1400 per month for one tiny bedroom in a shared house and two hours of a carer being with him daily, for which he also has to contribute nigh on £600 a month for. You can bet the carers are being paid minimum wage and the rota never allows for them to be there when my son actually needs help. Care in the community?? Utter bollocks and money making scheme for someone.

Meanwhile my smaller flat, has no double glazing, is badly soundproofed all round, I can hear the people in the shop beneath me along with their background music. Bus stop right outside, when the bus pulls up I have to pause the telly, the buses are so old and loud here you can't hear yourself think let alone the televison or radio.
Weekends are hell, fights, shouting, vomiting, all can be heard, I have to go to bed with a laptop and watch telly to drown out the noise whilst also wearing snoozeband headphones. Nightclub closes at 3am by 4am its a bit quieter out there and you might get some sleep.
3 , 4 and 6am wake ups with deliveries happening outside, vans, artic lorries, crashing and banging, pallet trucks being pulled long distances. 6am wake up call monday to friday with some bloke at the bus stop arriving there who then proceeds to cough his guts up.
8.30pm on a Friday night not long ago witnessed a violent attack outside my window, as did my 12 year old son. Last night at 1 am was disturbed by someone shouting, got up to witness a woman, drugged maybe drunk, cuddling a dog then pushing him away and telling him to f off, then minutes later calling him to cuddle him again. The majority of my phone time now is spent dialling the emergency services. A mentally ill neighbour using me as their counsellor two or three times a week.
My home is barely habitable, we have had no hot water since I moved in as the water heater keeps breaking, just the shower and boiling the kettle to do the dishes. I am embarrassed to have people round. I have no working buzzer so I miss post and parcels constantly, the few people that do call on me have to ring me so I can let them in. The cover on the shower fell off the first time I showered, electric sockets had bare wires, my front door was held together with bolts for weeks when I first moved in, where some one had kicked it in. I should be grateful that the heating that was older than me got replaced this year, newer night storage heaters that still actually cost a fortune to run! But, I have solar panels, five, on an east facing roof, I should apparently be eternally grateful. Shame I have old, broken single glazed windows where you can see outside through the holes in the frames. The bare minimum is done here to stay just above legal, its so depressing. Always an excuse, can't book the electrician in, he's always busy, planning won't let us sort the windows, or just a complete ignore of phonecalls, emails and text messages, then apologies weeks later that they 'forgot'.
As I type this someone is singing loudly, drunk, drugged, who knows, the noise out there in the day never stops, it never stops at night too.
I was a full time carer for my son, now I am job hunting, job coach thinks my skills are amazing, no one wants to hire me though, no experience and I'm so worn down, low, suffering with PTSD, trying to deal with past trauma that I can't focus and job hunt properly. I'm running on less than 50% capacity for thinking straight. I was given 6 hours of counselling, for DV and SA, not even mentioned the SA, how can you, it takes two or three sessions to get to know your counsellor, no one is going to raise indepth issues in six sessions but its a charity and someone decided six sessions is your lot regardless.

It's broken out side my broken windows, the people out there are broken, society is broken, I am broken.

I can see no way out with this lot in charge, they seek to punish not assist. Anything has to be better than this lot, but I won't hold my breath.

Sorry, I didn't mean "turned a corner" I meant "gone round the 'U' bend."

He doesn't think any such thing, he's just coming out with crap to try to get people to vote Tory.

Yes definitely here. Pressure has eased.

The economy has been going through this cycle for 14 years. I've worked in the public sector for 10 years, some years with minimal pay rises some years pay has been frozen. Wage stagnation is a huge issue when you consider that economy's ability to thrive, or recover from shocks like Covid.

The tories seem to be promising to cut any tax going. Also NIC by £2 and yet none of our public services are functioning even remotely well.
Some esteemed financial institution says there’s an £18 billion black hole in Tory spending plans. So the fact that RS is offering tax cuts does not mean that we’ve turned a corner.

The main problems I have seen over the last 14 years of Tory Gov are:

Brexit - but supported by the majority of the voters at the time
Involvement in the Ukraine war and subsequent higher energy costs and subsequent higher inflation - but supported by the majority of the public.
Government support for higher energy costs increasing debt by 70 billion- but supported by the majority of the public
Covid spending increasing debt by £500 billion - despite many warning against this it was supported by the majority of the public.

The one policy that in my mind summarises Conservative Party Gov was the £600 million spent on eat out to help out. It was an unforgivable, unnecessary waste of money that would have been far better spent on providing school meals to poorer children during school holidays. But at the same time it was massively popular with the voters and Sunak's popularity was at an all time high for it.

So the public support and want the higher spending but don't want to pay for it later on through higher taxes or reduced services in other areas later on.

So who is actually at fault here - the Tory Government or the public?

And each phase of of a cycle csn be 5 to 10yrs long, we then of course had the pandemic on a global level that has prolonged it, we aren't not the only country with inflation issues and cost of living problems many other countries have it too.

However inflation is going down, our energy prices are going down, we have had taxes cut not matter how small it's still money back in your pocket.

We will all go through these economic cycles a few times in our lifetimes and it's making sure that when those good yrs are here to prepare for wheb they aren't. There are plenty of information showing all the financial cycles we've been through and why, it's what happens and will continue to happen.

Inflation (the rate at which stuff is getting more expensive) may be falling, but it's still runming way ahead of any wage rise for me and millions of others. We are getting poorer each year, unlike our PM who has along with his chums, found a way to make sure he always gets richer and pays tax at an overall rate of around 20%. He isn't trying to help us, just to help himself and his pals to more and more while the rest of is get poorer.