Tonight's debate 7.30pm BBC 1

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Anyone fancy a discussion thread?

When Penny isn't speaking and the camera cuts to her face she has the most awful grimacing/bad tempered face, it's not helping how she comes across.

I'm thinking the Lib Dems have come out of this better than I expected.

People often say this but they clearly have not thought it through as many of the Tory female MPs are fierce, intelligent, strong, vocal etc.

She was a hell of a lot more restrained than I’d have been. The provocation level was so high.

For me:

Farage was about what I expected.
The Wales guy didn't make an impact
Daisy Cooper was good and I hadn't heard her before so had no expectations
SNP guy was OK occasionally too (though, I am no SNP fan)
The Greens were OK
Angela did well, better than I expected.
Penny was a lot worse than I expected

Did she actually say that?! 😂

Also impressed with Denyer for the Greens but I can't seem to think of them as a 'serious' party.

DC is good, pity Ed Davey is a wet flannel

Angela raynor- brilliant, in touch, intelligent and articulate.

Mordaunt- dire, aggressive, irritating, lying, out of touch, rude, desperate shouty. Liar, liar, liar.

Farage- pathetic, desperate, disgrace

Also, thought Mishal did a far better job than the ITV chair the other night

Daisy sounds like she just passed Lamda level 1. It just sounds very rehearsed and stiff. Lots of emphasis and hands. Possibly just lack of experience though. .

She wasn't dire she was eloquent..
Angela Rayner on the world stage , I don't think so , fishwife .

I don't need an autocue - oh, fuck off, Farage.

Misogynistic and classist insults now?

Seriously?

Thanks everyone for the (mostly) good humoured and respectful debate!

Mordaunt eloquent? Are you taking the piss on purpose?

Why didn’t anyone shake Farage’s hand. Angela and Penny seemed rather pally!

What makes you say fishwife?

Daisy sounds like she just passed Lamda level

Yep, her and the green lady aren't natural public speakers. Daisy looks like a school prefect reading off their notes at speech day.

Lovely bit of misogyny there. Well done.

I agree with you, although I think Penny squashed Angela on the energy question. After that, wasn’t so good.

Angela - didn’t feel strong to be. Did okay, but didn’t quite convince me.

SDP bloke - impressed me (although also not SNP fan)

Its easy to come across as a good communicator if you can lie with a straight face.
See also Johnson.

Not bad overall, won't watch any more of them I don't think! But the 90 minutes sped by.

Immaturity and pettiness.

Probably also jealousy because he was clearly the better speaker (and I imagine would have had a much different reception had the audience been even remotely representative of the UK).

I love the end. They shake hands but no-one goes near Nigel!

I think Penn's heart wasn't in it!