Tonight's debate 7.30pm BBC 1

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Anyone fancy a discussion thread?

It's not unconscious bias. It's that she's just dreadful. An 'abstract failure' - to quote her directly.

I'm finding the sound and visual timing in disparity very annoying .

I am finding the maudant / raynor arguing tiresome but predictable.

I am actually impressed with Nigel , he is far more restrained than I thought he'd be and some of his views make sense and not just immigration.

Probably because cities have more crime and Labour has more MPs in cities

Rayner looked far better in the bbc soundbite I saw against Mordaunt.

But god, this American style head to head nonsense is really pretty dire.

She's been called all sorts by people that don't appear to like strong, independent, vocal, determined women which is definitely something Rayner is.

The rudest people are Mordaunt and Farage. Those two are rude, aggressive and lying.

Fiona Bruce is exceptionally good at continually interrupting.

Interesting. I would describe myself as centre left and I like her - she intelligent and makes her point clearly. I have just skimmed through her voting record and she is fairly consistent. I disagree with her view on assisted dying. I think the Tories dislike her because she scares them - she certainly seems to bring out the misogynists (male and female). NB I am not suggesting your comment was misogynistic.

Love Angela Rayner. She's comes across well. She is 100 times smarter, classier and tougher than Penny Mordaunt.

I would say you're the one with the blinkers. I haven't stated my preferred party.

If I say I have also admired Flynn (although I think he is getting less of his turn than he should, think Denyer is cool and Cooper is competent and charming, that'll confuse you.

My DS is a new copper. Six
Months of training. These "new Coppers" are absolute babies. His superior has one year's more experience than my DS. Already they've been told twice on a weekend not to arrest anyone as all the police cells are full.

*And you know this because you're fully cognisant of the requirements of the Shadow Chancellor' role?

Thought no*t.

Don't embarrass yourself. She's not Shadow Chancellor.

Has anyone realised that the Tories haven't put the deputy PM out there? Is that maybe because Oliver Dowden doesn't have shouting credentials?

Penny Mordaunt lying about the amount of police the Cons have put in the street! Thankfully Angela Raynor put her straight 🤣 we ARE -2000 police officers!

Tories have cut the police service and community officers, agree with Angela on that

Oliver Dowden is a knob who ensure the tories received no seats if he appeared.

The problem about policing is funding. They need more money for an efficient force (as told by people working in the force).

And this is thanks to the Cons closing so many police stations! Had they left them in place there would be enough cells 🤦‍♀️

Totally agree.

No embarrassment thanks. I made a mistake that as you well know does not change the heart of my point.

I think that is because Labour have fielded Angela . It'd not a good optic to have a man arguing / dominating a woman so hence they've wheeled out penny .

Mordaunt was dire.

Bloody hell I ended up bang in the middle of Left wing Libertarian.
I've voted Conservative at every election bar one, since 1979😉
I live Tatton though so it actually makes no difference at all.
I don't much like our Labour candidate though, poor sod.
Haven't got a clue who to vote for this time. I will vote though.

I think Angela Raynor is the only one on there who gets it.

May as well call it the Penny Mordant show. What a rude woman. Nigel as always, speaks well.

I am warming to Angela Rayner. She has come across well in this. Penny Mordant was excellent with the sword, but in this is coming across as so rude! Carla (Green lady) is very good. Lim Dem talked too far as loud. SNP and Wales were very good.