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General election 2024

Farage has announced that he'll be making an announcement...

515 replies

Westfacing · 03/06/2024 12:16

... an 'emergency' announcement, no less.

Presumably to announce he's finally plucked up courage to put his money were his big mouth is and stand for Parliament, after bottling it!

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noblegiraffe · 03/06/2024 21:01

User135644 · 03/06/2024 20:52

The bus was a Cummings/Vote Leave gimmick.

Farage and Cummings hated each other, so Farage was happy to distance himself from it.

Farage was responsible for the despicable Breaking Point poster instead.

noblegiraffe · 03/06/2024 21:02

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 20:59

He’ll have 15-20% of the electorate behind him. That puts him in a strong position to be a significant influence in whatever right of centre party develops after the GE.

Why? Labour can vote through whatever policies they like because they will have an overwhelming mandate to do so and the votes in parliament.

Edit as misunderstood - Labour will be in power for 5 years... he will have an influence on whatever the right wing can scrabble together in the aftermath of the collapse of the Tories but the next election is a long way off.

Goldusty · 03/06/2024 21:04

Go Nigel!

H34th · 03/06/2024 21:04

Apparently his first reaction was that he won't be standing as he is going to the USA to help with their election.
Because they pay him well. Obviously recent development with Trump might have changed his mind.

Anybody who believes this person gives a hoot for this country and wants to support him is very, very thick.

bombastix · 03/06/2024 21:10

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 20:59

He’ll have 15-20% of the electorate behind him. That puts him in a strong position to be a significant influence in whatever right of centre party develops after the GE.

Yes it’s the percentage behind it. I am not pro Farage. But honestly his intention is to change the conversation into one which is absolutely explicit about immigration, who comes from where, why, what are they said to contribute and so on. Is that explicitly racist? No. It does not need to be. It all means that the country starts looking at each other in that way. And I don’t think the narrative “my parents have been here since the 1960s” is going to be what Reform think js a fair judgment. That’s the change he wants.

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 21:10

noblegiraffe · 03/06/2024 21:02

Why? Labour can vote through whatever policies they like because they will have an overwhelming mandate to do so and the votes in parliament.

Edit as misunderstood - Labour will be in power for 5 years... he will have an influence on whatever the right wing can scrabble together in the aftermath of the collapse of the Tories but the next election is a long way off.

Edited

He’s targeting 2029. He’ll be quite happy to see the Conservatives perform dreadfully in the upcoming election. That would further strengthen his position.

If he plays his cards right Labour may well only last one term in office.

HappiestSleeping · 03/06/2024 21:19

Goldusty · 03/06/2024 21:04

Go Nigel!

Yes, absolutely. Go Nigel. As far away as possible. 🤣

HappiestSleeping · 03/06/2024 21:20

H34th · 03/06/2024 21:04

Apparently his first reaction was that he won't be standing as he is going to the USA to help with their election.
Because they pay him well. Obviously recent development with Trump might have changed his mind.

Anybody who believes this person gives a hoot for this country and wants to support him is very, very thick.

They were thick enough to vote Boris in, so we shouldn't underestimate the power of human stupidity.

baroqueandblue · 03/06/2024 21:22

The way some people clutch their pearls over Brexit semantics on here is risible. There's absolutely no defence for Farage, Big Bus or no Big Bus. He cynically did Putin's bidding and vandalised the EU from the inside while taking the MEP salary and perks for years and made sure he kept his EU citizenship while most of the rest of us here lost ours. He even had the twisted nerve to compare us unfavourably with France on QT last week!

If you can't see through that there's no help for you.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 03/06/2024 21:24

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 03/06/2024 15:55

Wherever he chooses is going to be added to my list of place I refuse to live in because there are so many idiots that vote badly. (See also Uxbridge, North Somerset, wherever Johnathan Gullis is an MP)

Ah. We have the pleasure here in Stoke-on-Trent. He wrote to us recently to explain all the reasons why voting Reform would make us utter morons. Or summat 🤪

Figroll2 · 03/06/2024 21:28

HappiestSleeping · 03/06/2024 21:19

Yes, absolutely. Go Nigel. As far away as possible. 🤣

He is indeed our last hope for this country....he speaks many truths which the weak are too afraid to admit. Let's Reform UK....!

noblegiraffe · 03/06/2024 21:29

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 21:10

He’s targeting 2029. He’ll be quite happy to see the Conservatives perform dreadfully in the upcoming election. That would further strengthen his position.

If he plays his cards right Labour may well only last one term in office.

It would seem particularly optimistic to go from electoral wipeout to scrabbling around in the smouldering remains to government within 5 years. Farage has failed to be elected 7 times.

He would not only have to play his cards right, but Starmer would have to surpass Truss in dreadfulness.

ThisOldThang · 03/06/2024 21:38

baroqueandblue · 03/06/2024 21:22

The way some people clutch their pearls over Brexit semantics on here is risible. There's absolutely no defence for Farage, Big Bus or no Big Bus. He cynically did Putin's bidding and vandalised the EU from the inside while taking the MEP salary and perks for years and made sure he kept his EU citizenship while most of the rest of us here lost ours. He even had the twisted nerve to compare us unfavourably with France on QT last week!

If you can't see through that there's no help for you.

Is that you Carole? I thought you might have learned your lesson regarding those baseless
Putin allegations.

Dymaxion · 03/06/2024 21:39

He’ll have 15-20% of the electorate behind him.

15-20% of the electorate of the seat he is contesting or the UK @Charlie2121

Combattingthemoaners · 03/06/2024 21:43

The laughing stock of British politics but for some reason he resonates with some working class people such as my dad. His anti-establishment schpiel is laughable when he’s the establishment personified.

pondtales · 03/06/2024 21:45

@Figroll2 you want to build yourself high walls and drink an eat in abundance while the world around you is in a struggle? You think you deserve all the riches because your ancestors were 'smart' enough to rob far away lands and call it all their property? Do you not realise that many of the things that keep the country rich are invented, managed, built by people from all over the world? Do you know how much foreign money is supporting the economy right now?

All people want the same things - they just want to be happy, they want security for their offspring. You are not more deserving of others because of where you are born.

You cannot stop globalisation. You can only choose to be left out of it. But bear in mind that all you have will run out unless you join forces with all the rest.

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 21:47

Dymaxion · 03/06/2024 21:39

He’ll have 15-20% of the electorate behind him.

15-20% of the electorate of the seat he is contesting or the UK @Charlie2121

15-20% of the UK electorate. That will likely only translate into 1 or maybe 2 seats at most though due to FPTP rules.

The markets have him favourite to win his seat in Clacton.

ThisOldThang · 03/06/2024 21:52

"His anti-establishment schpiel is laughable when he’s the establishment personified."

The 'establishment' is the successor to the Old Boy Network. It's swapped the Old School Tie, for Oxbridge graduatess that hold a suite of lazy political views espoused by The Guardian and BBC. It's no longer about money or class.

Farage can be anti-establishment, despite being privately educated, because his views are a complete anathema to the Civil Service, mainstream political parties and media.

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 21:56

noblegiraffe · 03/06/2024 21:29

It would seem particularly optimistic to go from electoral wipeout to scrabbling around in the smouldering remains to government within 5 years. Farage has failed to be elected 7 times.

He would not only have to play his cards right, but Starmer would have to surpass Truss in dreadfulness.

Starmer isn’t very popular now in the face of virtually no opposition so his days are already numbered.

Labour as a whole haven’t really attracted any voters because of what they are offering. People are gravitating to them because they don’t want the current Conservatives.

If all the right of centre voters can once again be brought together under one banner they will likely oust Labour. How long it takes for that to happen is anyone’s guess however in many ways the bigger the defeat in July the quicker it is likely to happen.

You only have to look to the rest of western Europe to see that left wing governments are living on borrowed time.

HappiestSleeping · 03/06/2024 22:04

Figroll2 · 03/06/2024 21:28

He is indeed our last hope for this country....he speaks many truths which the weak are too afraid to admit. Let's Reform UK....!

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth. . . .

Socha · 03/06/2024 22:06

HappiestSleeping · 03/06/2024 22:04

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth. . . .

Why do people say this when they have different views? It's really sad. As other pp said, insults do nothing, discussion does

baroqueandblue · 03/06/2024 22:09

ThisOldThang · 03/06/2024 21:52

"His anti-establishment schpiel is laughable when he’s the establishment personified."

The 'establishment' is the successor to the Old Boy Network. It's swapped the Old School Tie, for Oxbridge graduatess that hold a suite of lazy political views espoused by The Guardian and BBC. It's no longer about money or class.

Farage can be anti-establishment, despite being privately educated, because his views are a complete anathema to the Civil Service, mainstream political parties and media.

You actually believe the crap you wrote in that last paragraph! The stink of desperation even comes through the internet.

Notaflippinclue · 03/06/2024 22:09

Apparently half of Britain class themselves as working class - nowt wrong with that - imagine if every single one of them voted for Reform

bombastix · 03/06/2024 22:13

Let’s not bang the drum for right wing government in Europe. It’s a poor history.

Labour will be compelled to be tough on legal migration not just because of numbers but also their union backers. The Tories have backed cheap immigration for work into the country for a long time. It’s not a secret that Labour would like better working conditions and salaries. I don’t actually think they will have much incentive to be as liberal as the Conservatives have been, they will probably restrict some migration quite quickly. It’s always assumed that Labour want to keep migration up or as it was under the EU (lower and less likely to stay than now). Will they be tougher on visas? Yes. It is in their interest to do so. And they are prepared to recruit a state workforce to deliver it apparently.

ThisOldThang · 03/06/2024 22:13

baroqueandblue · 03/06/2024 22:09

You actually believe the crap you wrote in that last paragraph! The stink of desperation even comes through the internet.

I do believe it, because it's clearly true.

I'm not desperate about anything.

I fear you may be living in an echo chamber.

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