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I am fed up of being made to feel like a bad mother...

383 replies

fedupofgoody2shoes · 24/10/2005 16:00

on MN. Most of the time I oove it but recently there have been far too many gasps and rolling eyes (well if we could see each others eyes that is).

Yes - I breastfed and will do again
I use disposable nappies
I used a mixture of homemade food and jars when weaning
I have a freezer with readymeals in it as well as home made meals
My kids have crisps and biscuits

I will never use washable nappies (I have a life)
I will never breastfeed and my bottle fed kids are healthier than some kids I know who were breastfed until they were 2.5. My kids have no allergies at all and that includes ezcema, asthma etc.

Please - give us mums who choose alternative ways a break and stop all this goody 2 shoes attitude with people. there is no need to look down your noses. Not everyone has time to spend washing nappies and cooking all day. Some of us have full time jobs, school runs, house to keep, dancing and swimming lessons, and some people don't take to breastfeeding. If powder milk was so bad they wouldn't sell it!

Please stop making people feel so judged (not all of MN is like this but there are a select few!)

OP posts:
spidermama · 26/10/2005 14:33

Moondog ... I know Grayson Perry well. (not personally you understand). LOL your nephew has been named after him.
Brighton is a great place for them. I might well take your suggestion and start a juior dress up club, al jazz hands welcome.

I wonder if Liarpantsperson, logic and fedup are the same person. Such fury vented on innocent posters. It spreads bad feeling. They should find another way to discharge their stress.

handlemecarefully · 26/10/2005 14:36

Spidermama - I don't think logic is a anonymous name. I'm pretty sure that she has posted before...the name rings a bell

moondog · 26/10/2005 14:38

Oooh fancy you knowing Grayson well!
Veer between taking it all incredibly seriously and then rolling about thinking 'He's got to be taking the piss!'
His dw is a psychotherapist isn't she? Read a long interview with both of them a while back and they struck me as Nice People.

I'll tell my sister to keep an eye on the local rag for details of the club.Reckon there'd be plenty of call for that in Brighton lol!

handlemecarefully · 26/10/2005 14:38

and I don't really think she should put in the same category because apart from one post she was quite measured...

moondog · 26/10/2005 14:38

No,hang on,you don't know him.
Eh?
Oh,ignore me,today is a thick day!

freakyzebra · 26/10/2005 14:40

Thanks for the compliment, moondog!!!

I wouldn't know whether to begin if I tried to contribute to this thread, think it best if it just died a quick death, tbh. Nobody gets to be the perfect parent; what a banal place this would be if were never honest enough to tell each other "I think you're doing the wrong thing"...

Will wander off now to look for my misplaced life in the pile of cloth nappies....

moondog · 26/10/2005 14:42

I like you zebra!

Bozza · 26/10/2005 14:49

Logic is definitely a genuine mumsnetter who has been here for quite a while. Although it did also cross my mind that she might also have been the op, just from the wording of certain posts, when people dissected details in the original post she replied directly.

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spidermama · 26/10/2005 16:35

Moondog Grayson Perry made a documentary all about cross-dressing. After watching it I finally understood cross dressers for the first time. It was brilliant!

Another of his hobbies is being a biker. For this he dresses all in macho leather to straddle his powerful beast.

Enid · 26/10/2005 16:45

he makes great pots

but I thought he looked bloody ridiculous on the Late show the other day (but i am old reactionary )

spidermama · 26/10/2005 16:53

I agree he looks bizarre. The thing is, he knows it but doesn't care. He enjoys the feeling it gives him expressing his Little-Bo-Peep-within/ He genuinely doesn't care what the rest of us thinks.

He looks a right Charlie IMO but I kind of love him for it. I must admit to feeling a little sorry for his dd though. She must get ribbed.

Enid · 26/10/2005 16:54

yes

I do sort of admire him and he is quite fascinating to look at

but would be gutted if dh dressed like that

moondog · 26/10/2005 17:53

'gutted' a curious turn of phrase Enid.

What was the gist of it sm.
I can understand men wanting the pleasure of dressing up in away that women only are conventionally expected to do. Just find it bizarre that their approximations of women are...well rather odd.

Does Grayson dress up like that to shop,drive the kids to school and so on,or is it only for special occasions?

spidermama · 26/10/2005 18:01

Oh me too Enid. That's going too far, even for me. I may have to eat my words though the way my ds is going.

Moondog, it was basically about the right to express himself in all the different aspects of his personality.
The reason he feels so compelled, in the face of what must amount to strong public pressure, is precisely because it's so taboo for men to dress like women. It's a bit of campaigning.

I can't remember the fine detail, and I wish I had taped it, but I remember watching it then a penny dropping inside me and thinking, 'Now I see'.

Pruni · 26/10/2005 18:15

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moondog · 26/10/2005 18:17

Well sm..you name me a woman who dresses like that-!!

My thoughts exactly Pruni!

(SM,my nephew whispered to his mother that what he wanted most for his birthday was a Barbie but he knew that he would be laughed at. My sister got him one.)

Lonelymum · 26/10/2005 18:23

I think he looks absolutely ridiculous and I feel really uncomfortable to think that anyone, man or woman, feels the need to express themselves as Little Bo Peep. That really doesn't seem healthy to me. It is not just that women can dress as men and it is considered socially acceptable but men can't dress as women in the same way. If that was what it was about, he could dress like Eddie Izzard. Let's face it, if a woman dressed as Little Bo Peep, you would think there was something odd about them, so why do we all sit there politely and say Grayson Perry is perfectly normal dressing the way he does?

moondog · 26/10/2005 18:27

Yes I agree lm (you iconoclast you!) hence my earlier reference to my constant sneaking suspicion that he is taking the piss!!

moondog · 26/10/2005 18:28

(Am psml at the Little Bo Peep comparison!!)

Lonelymum · 26/10/2005 18:30

Iconoclast? Me? Yes, I pressed "Post Message" before I got round to saying I thought it was mainly a publicity stunt.

frannykenstein · 26/10/2005 18:37

I haven't got a clue what you are all on about now, but can I just say that the evolution of threads on here never ceases to amuse and amaze me. You are all fab

Caligula · 26/10/2005 18:43

this is my favourite dressing up nutter.

Caligula · 26/10/2005 18:45

oh god he's started doing other costumes

hunkerpumpkin · 26/10/2005 18:47

He's hilarious, isn't he, Caligula?!