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Sexism examples

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Magicboobies · 08/04/2025 18:19

Has anyone got any examples of sexism here in UK recently?
husband truly believes there is not much sexism “these days” 🙄 we work in the same profession and i gave him a few examples of at work and he was like “really! I’m sure most people don’t experience sexism nowadays”
I agree we have come a long way but also think he doesn’t see and a lot of little things will go un noticed

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SwissBall · 09/04/2025 00:29

According to the men of LinkedIn, the gender pension issue does not exist/does exist but we should work harder/ serves us right because men get a hard time in family court and because it's never women who fix roads in winter apparently!

And they say men are more logical and rational than women Grin

Member869894 · 09/04/2025 00:38

Using the word 'feisty 'to describe a woman's behaviour

sadmillenial · 09/04/2025 01:43

everyday language is always a good one for explaining sexism

Has he ever heard anyone ever say they are on "mommy-day care"? Or that they are a "hands on mom"?

i find that every time i say that someone has mistaken my (male) colleague for the senior colleague, it can be too easily dismissed as "oh, yeah, but that person was an anomaly", but generalised language that everyone uses can show sexism much more powerfully and has no such get out clause for individual bias

RawBloomers · 09/04/2025 01:57

LillyPJ · 09/04/2025 00:17

But isn't having to queue to use the loo the result of the opposite of sexism? That's one case where treating the two sexes differently would be preferable!

Treating women and men the same is sexist when the outcome is different because of sex differences.

It's sexist not to have enough toilet facilities that women routinely have to wait longer than men to use them, just as it's sexist to set all chairs to a height that fits male bodies more than it fits female bodies.

LillyPJ · 09/04/2025 05:44

RawBloomers · 09/04/2025 01:57

Treating women and men the same is sexist when the outcome is different because of sex differences.

It's sexist not to have enough toilet facilities that women routinely have to wait longer than men to use them, just as it's sexist to set all chairs to a height that fits male bodies more than it fits female bodies.

Not in my dictionary. I'd say it's not right, but not that it's sexist.

sashh · 09/04/2025 07:04

One from the USA

The last three elections were

Trump v Hillary
Trump v Biden
Trump v Kamela

Why are the women referred to by their first names? A bit like school were students are known by their first name and teachers by their surname.

UK equalising the pension age, but not taking in to account the legal discrimination women and girls faced before the 'Sex Discrimination Act' which limited their choice or careers and often their progression if they married of had children.

How many single women order take away for delivery and then when taking the food shout over their shoulder, "Fred, the food id here?"

Girls' having to wear a tie as part of their school uniform. So for most schools the default uniform is for boys with a variation for girls.

Girls at school being told their trousers are too tight or their skirts are too short, it never happens to boys.

Girls uniform is often more expensive than boys.

Girls being used to 'police' boys' behaviour in school. Yes sitting children boy, girl, boy girl is fine but when it comes to STEM subjects the girls taking something like computer science are usually in the minority and they NEVER get to sit next to a girl unless they are in a girls' school or I'm teaching them. I'm sure this impacts on the uptake of STEM subjects.

Everything being designed around the 'average man', car seats, kitchen work tops, lawn mowers, vacuums etc.

If you watch the great British menu you can see how much harder the women have to work just to stir something in a pan because the pan is so high.

Toilets with the seat in the middle of the cubicle so there isn't room for a sanitary towel bin.

To access an early abortion you have to have at least two appointments one for a pill and the other for a pessary or for two pills meaning most abortions in this country take place on public transport. Men would be trusted to take the second dose.

The fact you have to have two doctors to say you can have an abortion, this doesn't happen for any procedure a male undergoes.

Tax on tampons.

If you buy cotton buds or cotton wool in the supermarket it is cheaper in the baby isle than in the beauty isle.

Rape threats. I would suggest every female MP has had at least one. They are really common on twitter.

Male gaze and the age of girls when it starts.

I think I need coffee now.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 09/04/2025 07:26

When I travel for work people ask me who is looking after DS. Nobody has ever asked DH that question.

I was recommended for a job when DS was quite young. The person recommending me told the employer I'd only be interested in part time because I had a child. They'd never even had that conversation with me, they just assumed. I was only looking for full time.

When I returned to work after maternity leave I lost count of the number of people who told me 'how awful' it was I'd 'had' to return full time. Nobody said that to DH ( we worked together at the time).

At least once a week someone assumes my older male colleague is my boss.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 09/04/2025 07:29

Oh and look at the US.
Millions of women could lose the vote because their married name is different to their name on their birth certificate.

And get him to look at X where sexism and misogyny is rife.

SwanOfThoseThings · 09/04/2025 07:44

LillyPJ · 09/04/2025 00:17

But isn't having to queue to use the loo the result of the opposite of sexism? That's one case where treating the two sexes differently would be preferable!

Yes. I was queuing for the loo recently. There were three unisex cubicles, one of which was out of order, plus a door to a men's urinal area. Four men came and went from the urinal area while four women were still queuing for a cubicle; the people in the cubicles must have been in there about ten minutes!

A man eventually emerged from one of the unisex cubicles - I assume from the length of time he'd been in there that he needed to use a toilet, rather than a urinal - but it struck me as really unfair that there was no single-sex provision for women while the men could be in and out in less than a minute.

There should have been at least two cubicles for women only; preferably all three, with another cubicle for men inside the urinal area - it stands to reason that if a man is going to use a cubicle, he's not going to be having a quick wee so essentially all the facilities that women have no choice but to use have the potential to be blocked by men taking their time emptying their bowels.

Mumteedum · 09/04/2025 08:05

The Man Who Has it All sites are pretty good at showing this nonsense up sometimes. I got tired of it but just read a good one about a male policewoman Grin

sashh · 09/04/2025 08:06

Mosques inviting speakers who tell men they have a right to sex with their wives and if they refuse they can beat them.

This is in Birmingham this year.

Every year on International Women's day twitter is awash with men asking 'Why isn't there an International man's day' - there is one and it is the same date every year but men can't bear women have anything for themselves.

This year I suggested to someone on twitter that perhaps they could organise something at their work place, apparently that isn't his job.

Motorbikes, well German ones. The week I passed my bike test my uncle said I could take his new BMW out. My feet couldn't touch the floor at both sides. Thankfully Japanese bikes are made for smaller people.

If I'm out with my (male) carer and I order steak the waiting staff still try to hand it to him. The same if I order a pint and he wants a cocktail.

Why is there still no place in a car to put a normal sized hand bag?

Female skaters at the Olympics are now not forced to wear dresses or skirts, but the ones who don't often don't score well.

Culturally we still expect women to wear skits / dresses when playing tennis, bowls and golf.

In 2021 the Norwegian hand ball team were fined because they played in shorts not bikini bottoms.

Beach volleyball now allows women some flexibility but if they choose the two piece then there are regulations about how small the bikini must be, the bottoms cannot be more than 7cm at the side.

2012 was the first Olympics that had as many sports open to women as it did to men and the IOC had to threaten Saudi Arabia they would be barred if they did not send female athletes.

Saudi countered that the athletes needed to wear 'Islamic dress', remember this was in London. OP I realise your DH may not think this is sexism in the UK but it is, why do we allow countries to dictate these things? When South Africa would not have anyone who wasn't white on their teams the world of sport banned them.

Work places can dictate women wear high heels as part of a uniform. How does that make you better at work? Why is it only females who have to wear them?

Koolforkats · 09/04/2025 08:10

Mortgage advisor completed my details in “applicant two” box, despite me talking first (so applicant 1 box was empty), having existing equity in my solo owned house, and being the highest wage earner. DH was his “applicant 1”. Despite understanding our financial situation asked DH if “we’d accept a lower offer on the (my) house.

Next door neighbour (male) looking past me to ask DH questions relating to house maintenance, our building work etc despite DS having little knowledge as I’ve arranged it all.

SwanOfThoseThings · 09/04/2025 08:10

If I'm out with my (male) carer and I order steak the waiting staff still try to hand it to him. The same if I order a pint and he wants a cocktail.

I get that if I'm out with my husband - I'm a steak eater, he will often choose something like salad or quiche; if I'm having a beer it's given to him and I get the J2O (he doesn't drink).

sashh · 09/04/2025 09:40

SwanOfThoseThings · 09/04/2025 08:10

If I'm out with my (male) carer and I order steak the waiting staff still try to hand it to him. The same if I order a pint and he wants a cocktail.

I get that if I'm out with my husband - I'm a steak eater, he will often choose something like salad or quiche; if I'm having a beer it's given to him and I get the J2O (he doesn't drink).

Yep.

Do they give him the bill too?

I was once also asked if I went on the back of my boyfriend's motor bike. Nope, but he's been on the back of mine, me being the one with the full licence.

Echobelly · 09/04/2025 09:48

Here's a good one, and an example of sexism that is totally unintentional but still really damaging:

A colleague at last workplace pointed out that male senior managers would talk to more junior men about what they were working on and the women about their family lives.

Like I said, totally unintentional, but it has real consequences. If they don't talk to women about what they're doing at work, who is going to be the first person to come to mind when considering who is going to take on a new project?

tarheelbaby · 09/04/2025 09:57

I stumbled across this yesterday:
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/what-happened-when-a-man-signed-work-emails-using-a-female-name-for-a-week_n_58c2ce53e4b054a0ea6a4066

and I have heard of women who send in their manuscripts with men's names and have a positive response whereas when they sent the same manuscript with their own name their work was declined/rejected.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 09/04/2025 10:04

Girls' having to wear a tie as part of their school uniform. So for most schools the default uniform is for boys with a variation for girls.

I don't think that's universal.
Back when I was at school boys had to wear ties and girls didn't.
Maybe the easiest option in the name of equality is to require both to?
My daughter's school uniform did include a tie for girls and boys but other schools in the same area don't for either sex.

FlowerUser · 09/04/2025 10:17

It costs £88.50 to get a passport in your new name if a woman takes her husband's name on marriage. And the same again if she reverts to her maiden name on divorce. It costs nothing to change your name on your driving licence.

It's like a tax on women.

FinnJuhl · 09/04/2025 10:26

I take part in a traditionally male dominated hobby. The male in charge recently (only in his late twenties) was pleased that 'everyone' had a turn at leading a particular activity. In fact, the only woman there had not been asked to have a turn and was clearly invisible to him.

Branconche · 09/04/2025 10:26

After doing absolutely all of the admin for finding our son a nursery fairly last minute (scouring inspection reports, organising visits, chasing up phone calls, emails etc), paying the fees (because I earn approx 5 x what my partner earns so makes sense financially), putting myself down as main point of contact -

Only to have the first invoice addressed to MY PARTNER (his father), my name didnt even appear on the document! WTAF! I promptly emailed the manager to correct this mistake.

sashh · 09/04/2025 10:37

deydododatdodontdeydo · 09/04/2025 10:04

Girls' having to wear a tie as part of their school uniform. So for most schools the default uniform is for boys with a variation for girls.

I don't think that's universal.
Back when I was at school boys had to wear ties and girls didn't.
Maybe the easiest option in the name of equality is to require both to?
My daughter's school uniform did include a tie for girls and boys but other schools in the same area don't for either sex.

I did say most schools, I did supply for years and only a couple had a different uniform.

One actually had a different blouse that did not need to be tucked in and a 'cravat' similar to a flight attendant.

How on earth is making a tie compulsory for girls anything to do with equality?

Mumteedum · 09/04/2025 10:48

sashh · 09/04/2025 10:37

I did say most schools, I did supply for years and only a couple had a different uniform.

One actually had a different blouse that did not need to be tucked in and a 'cravat' similar to a flight attendant.

How on earth is making a tie compulsory for girls anything to do with equality?

School uniform for girls is a nonsense. When do you ever see a grown woman wearing a tie?

The whole shirt and tie for young women who are self conscious and growing boobs is awful.

Oh and schools that allow teachers to measure the length of skirts need to give their head a wobble too.

Koolforkats · 09/04/2025 11:17

Mumteedum · 09/04/2025 10:48

School uniform for girls is a nonsense. When do you ever see a grown woman wearing a tie?

The whole shirt and tie for young women who are self conscious and growing boobs is awful.

Oh and schools that allow teachers to measure the length of skirts need to give their head a wobble too.

Agree re skirt length. DS school often mentions uniform in terms of tidiness (all tucked in) and then quickly moves on to skirt length, tights thickness and how these will be visually inspected on arrival. You really want to subject girls to that scrutiny by male staff.

Gettingbysomehow · 09/04/2025 11:26

I'm a 63 year old medical professional. Men at work junior or equal to me asking me to get their notes out for them "because you get in early". Then stroll in at 9am and being astonished I haven't done it or cleaned and set up their clinic and tell me they are now going to be late all day.
Men at work going home or to lunch early and expecting me to pick up the slack.
Expecting me to wash up their stuff in the staff kitchen at the end of the day.
Once I tell them where to fuck off they don't try it again with me, they go off and try it with someone else instead.

Mumteedum · 09/04/2025 11:34

@Gettingbysomehow unbelievable that we're still putting up with this. I remember a male producer at work nigh on twenty years ago asking me to go and get his sandwich at lunchtime. I was the only woman. I asked him straight why he wasn't asking one of the men doing same job as me before I told him to go get it himself.