Is the trans movement trending out?

[Yatzydog]

Reading another thread prompted this. As a teacher, I have noticed that there are no trans kids this year. I teach in a middle school in europe: 3 years corresponding to years 8 - 10 (!). As the last academic year ended, the last trans kids left the school. No new ones coming through the school.

Has it trended out amongst the kids, leaving the older teenagers / twenty somethings? Then in 20 years' time only the hardcore, like seeing an 60-year old punk?

That's really awful. I'm sorry. Disgusting that the school transed her behind your back.

But it's not necessarily too late. She's still very young, her brain is still developing. She could still join the growing number of desisters and detransitioners and come back to you.

Hope so!

My ds2, 16, and all his friends thankfully think it's all a load of shite and have never been bothered by any of it.

This.

I think the recent Olympics and the 2 make boxers in boxing, and swimmer Iea Thomas, is actually finally helping, that most people think : enough of this nonsense.

I also wonder if it means that the LGBTI+ are bothered about a group of (narcissistic male) people entered the community space and started throwing their weight around and make the whole thing about them. All the changes to the flag for example really takes away from the message of what a safe space for gay/lesbians/trans actually means.

I still believe that there are people who are so uncomfortable with their sexual organs to alleviate that discomfort and distress can have medical and surgical treatments. Bur it should be a process over a long period of time (3 years), the assumptions about the other gender should be continually challenged because a lot of what I see from TG people is sexist. They should also be prepared for the fact that they always other people will see them as the gender that they are, and that doesn’t make them a bigot.

If I’ve taken this correctly and she hasn’t passed away then you haven’t lost her. You may be intolerant of her, that’s a different thing.

Wow that is very offensive.

What a stupid bloody post.

Worrying that your daughter has been groomed into a cult and could do irreversible damage to her body is not being intolerant.

I'm not sure which comment you found offensive. Posting in case it's the first one.

I've got many gay and lesbian friends. Some of them were active in gay rights for decades.

None of them want anything to do with Pride. It's no longer about gay rights or being proud to be gay. It's all about spicy straights and fetishists. The TQ+ have ruined Pride for the LGB.

Don't tell her how she feels.

Simply asking for more detail could be a good first step - ask to see resources or materials that teachers have been provided with to lead lessons/activities from.

The DfE guidance says schools must not reinforce stereotypes - which anything about trans would do.

Do start your own thread in sex and gender if you need more support, it’s really important we keep rooting this out.

So sorry to hear this and please ignore twats who think it's your fault. I've seen how the trans narrative pushes kids away from their loving parents.

You would hope that a well researched, hundred of pages long, 4 year in the making Review would change things!

I’m glad it has empowered those who always knew transitioning children was wrong to speak out and draw on the evidence that Dr Cass found.

The fact it got as far as it did is laughable and a very sorry chapter in humankind.
Utterly absurd, but only the bravest called that out.
The weak sheep followed along though, nodding away so as not to appear unfashionable or risk peer judgement. They were as much of the problem. Easily led fools lacking both morals and brain cells. Shame on what you caused. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing,”

It's only been put in the DCM and the ICD relatively recently, after input from WPATH iirc.

(I made a thread on the DCM a while back - I was astonished at how it's written/edited.)

Yes, gender dysphoria will persist, but the numbers prior to the gender wave were vanishingly rare. We may also have more insight into potential causes, too.

It was the second comment I found offensive. I 100% agree with you.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5066580-we-need-to-talk-about-the-dsm

Discussion on.the DSM and gender dysphoria.

Completely agree with this post. The original post shows a lack of understanding.

I mentioned young teens today being so woke - he said his sons and their friends have no time for it but the girls are still supportive -this was private school kids

This concerns me. We know that a lot of this is directly driven by the deep patriarchy our children are growing up in. If young men are pushing back is it because they are being driven towards misogyny instead? And young women are hanging on as a backlash to that.

I'm bisexual. In the 1990s I neither accepted nor pursued this part of myself. I kept it a secret even to myself. If I was a teen now, I suspect I'd likely identify as a lesbian to get away from male influence entirely. Neither of these are healthy approaches to emotional development.

My kids were prime age to be in the thick of it last year (11,13) and through discussions with them I learned that it was 'cringe' a year ago. There are no trans or 'enby' kids in either of their year groups and it's a big high school.

Correlation and causation are two different things.

Good point. For the distressed pre teen girls this was always about misogyny and internalised misogyny. I'd want to see the causal influences changing before I'd be convinced this 'backlash' is more than an extension of EVERYTHING women and girls do is wrong.... (even 'transition').

It's clear to me that the younger ones have little interest. My youngest is currently in y10. There is an NB teacher who they all refer to as "she" because she is obviously a woman. In my older children's time other pupils would have policed language and insisted on "they" even when the teacher wasn't there. My youngest, who tends to twist herself in a million ways to be tolerant, noted a few weeks ago how very sexist trans ideology is.

My older children had trans identifying peers who unfortunately have progressed onto meds, but there are none in my youngest's year.

That said, there are clearly young people arriving at university and discovering trans. There have been a number of threads on this lately, with mostly young (autistic) men going to uni and finding trans, quite possibly as a way to have friends and fit in. Reminds me of how in the 90s the girls at my school were warned about cults and their recruitment methods before we went to uni.