Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

I haven't seen a single item of her content and would not have heard of her if it weren't for Mumsnet. At first I was like a pp and thought "the woman from the Carry On films, eh?".

But I was astonished those awful long-running threads about her were allowed to stay up for so long on Mumsnet. I would have a look every now and then to see if there was anything of any significance but no, it was the same old gossip and judging.

This isn't bloody Tattle! MN should not be encouraging it's members to become utterly obsessed with one demon hate figure and literally sit and pick over every single little thing they do.

@actuallyhappy absolutely!

She has a post on X about complimenting a woman on the twin newborns she was wearing in a sling. Then she realises they were the woman's breasts. Really? Mistaking breasts for babies?

What a plonker! This is a standard practice on X (Twitter) when someone posts a nude photo under the pretext of "helping women” or not.

Her male followers' timelines are filled with these tiles. Viewers then have the option to choose to see it. Happens with pictures of injuries, war, etc. she obvs doesn’t follow the news on X.

Contrary to Liz's belief, not everyone wants her body with their breakfast.

Consistent with our hive mind, Liz is known to fabricate stories for attention, even claiming to have used essential services like the police and NHS and possibly she has. I reckon she’s been hung out for the allegations she made the other day 🤫

This behaviour only hinders the progress of women being taken seriously in abuse cases.

I would be interested what other women think about the rear naked pictures. Are they empowering? (Given that this thread is in the "feminism" area).

My view is that those pictures could be very triggering for some women victims of DV/DA. Women who have been made to maintain that pose by an abusive partner for example. Or women from different cultures/religions who might be put off from coming forward.

As the ambassador for a national DV charity I feel she should take more care. She should be reminded that it isn't always about her and there is a much, much bigger picture here.

Oh my. Is this body shaming/misogyny? Babies is a derogatory term for large breasts. I can’t see because I am long blocked by her on Twitter for asking a genuine question about services offered by NCDV, is this a recent post? @nobodysdaughternow

Yesterday @Heatherfell

she seems to have deleted it @Tortiemiaw.

@LindorDoubleChoc I know what you mean about the unpleasant flavour around some of the threads but this is driven by an emotional reaction to her which is legitimate because (leaving aside those personally materially affected by her) she is inviting an emotional reaction. That's what she trades on. That's all she does - she bases her activity on the assumption that all the emotional reactions will be in her favour, but they can only be, based on an unpleasant and manipulative patriarchal value system that is directly at odds with her supposed preached value of "helping women".

So it annoys women, women who have suffered all their lives by someone a bit posher, pushier, prettier and more manipulative always grabbing the heartstrings of the people who dish out the benefits and privileges, cry-bullying their way through life. And mn is a space for women to talk, so they will, and however unpleasant - in my view, that's legit.

Obviously if people are saying things with legal ramifications then it may be necessary for mn to step in. But on the basis of aesthetics, or pleasantness - that shoudl not be how we are policed.

In that awful Mail piece someone linked to, she admits that her daughter is so lovely and pretty that if another woman, she'd be tempted to hate her. That value system - it's not generous, it's not big hearted, it's mean and grabby and ugly - is what she is operating on. Yeah it would be nice to live and let live, be generous to people around us and let them flail in private when they are flailing - or help them - and in general I try to do that. But she doesn't deserve generosity because she's made a living off attention grabbed in the most basic, selfish, retrograde way

@trytopullyoursocksup

Totally agree 👏

And this is a feminist issue, because it affects (discredits) us all when someone treats women's serious issues as a game, as a tool, in an attempt to carry on their silly sexy posing to their own personal advantage but manipulate the responses to her, requiring that they be the Very Serious Capitalised Register that she wants rather than the eye-rolling "whatevs, luv" that they deserve.

It's a zero sum game - all of this, all the time, is at the disadvantage of someone else, some other woman or women who have showed up, done the work, looked after their kids properly, looked after other kids, put their own interests aside, kept going, stayed in one place, done proper jobs, fund raised, nursed, cared, told the truth, and so on. It's all discredited by this clown fannying about in public shouting DOMESTIC ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH

I mean I believe her MH is terrible and someone needs to get her off soc med.

And if she wants to get her kecks off all the time, fair play, let her, I would if my arse looked like that -but I wouldn't be pretending it was for the GREATER GOOD

@Verity44 & @Tortiemiaw she has the freedom to post naked pictures as & when she chooses but she can’t choose to do this in the name of current victims and ‘survivors’ of domestic violence as she likes to call us. Many women I've met in support groups & safe accommodation still identify as victims of domestic abuse even after the violence has stopped. I do and live in fear of when he’s released will he start again?

For example me, none of my scars are from self-harm. The most significant are from when my house was torched with me inside and the most obvious ones are my false teeth, filling the gaps of my teeth punched out. These aren't custom made influencer veneers they're the best I could afford on the NHS.

Liz's Hollywood look at me actions worsen the stigma we face because she shows the majority of us as weak and lazy for not moving forward quickly enough. I once owned a house with a mortgage and played netball, but now I live in temporary safe housing with my children away from our community due to the triggering effects of our PTSD. We may be safe while he's in prison, but what happens upon his release?

What women like me need desperately is signposting to support services like shelters, counselling, legal aid and emergency hotlines. However, Liz has not shared once any of this crucial information and so vulnerable women needing help stop following if they’re not blocked first. We aren't online all day when we're running and I mean from abuse not running in races not all have smartphones so quick access to information is vital.

Someone who genuinely wants to help victims has this information pinned on their Twitter and Instagram feeds knowing that every second can count. Booking her flat is never going to be something I need.

Thankfully that many true feminists are involved in setting up and running organisations that help domestic violence victims but despite her claims to the blokes who follow her Liz's focus is just saying she’s helping while doing the opposite. The truth is she blocks you if you don’t flatter her and she doesn’t discriminate about the only time she doesn’t.

Shes blocked lots of victims of domestic violence. I was publicly labeled a troll and blocked by her right after making a donation because I politely inquired about when I would receive the subscribed information. She blocks people with no photo or an unreal name err DV victims have to do this to protect themselves educate yourself Liz I’m hardly going to troll you after giving £100!

So in my opinion feminists are vital in supporting domestic violence victims, raising awareness and educating and creating support networks for women to escape abuse and heal. As someone said before to end domestic violence weve got to show the whole picture.

Liz Fraser is just one of millions of women with unique experiences but she seems more interested in profiting from our pain than genuinely helping. I get the vibe from her that I don’t fit her criteria of beauty and money and so I’m to poor and ugly for her to care about my experience.

Facts are most women and all who I’ve met in support groups and safe accommodation will never be physically attractive again because years of abuse shows on our faces but all I’ve met are beautiful on the inside and I’ve not seen beauty from inside Liz.

I'm immensely grateful for the support I found from the women I met on Mumsnet. consider yourself a feminist or not you are helping people like me to feel seen without getting our arses out.

@trytopullyoursocksup if I had an ass or t!ts worthy of show I’d have them out all of the time and to put them to good use I’d make them into advertising hoardings with the hotline numbers @ObservingToo mentioned! The woman lacks purpose.

I have no idea who she is

she took this down I think.

She's mad as a box of frogs and as narcissistic as Trump. That said, anyone taken in by her is exceedingly gullible. Best ignored, which is easy to do.

Brilliant post @ObservingToo

Her daughter is pretty normal looking and imo she only wrote this article in the hopes the comments would be full of “but you look prettier!!’’.

@ObservingToo

Thank you for answering the question "is this empowering"? And my best wishes to you and your family for your continuing recovery.

Another reason why I, and others, were drawn to this thread just seen on Instagram this morning:

"Be kind, be truthful, keep your side of the street clean, don't shit on other people's side of the street ..."

These exhortations are aimed, I presume, at newer followers who don't know her better. She did "shit on my side of the street" from a great height. She then walked away to her next reinvented life without a backward glance. No kindness or truth evident, just a trail of destruction I had to fire-fight and put right.

No words for the hypocrisy of it 😡

@Lentilweaver

"She's mad as a box of frogs and as narcissistic as Trump. That said, anyone taken in by her is exceedingly gullible. Best ignored, which is easy to do".

Be careful. Sounds a bit like victim-blaming to me.

Cmon, why would you donate to this attention-seeking idiot who thinks having breakfast is something to be celebrated in exclamation points? She is another Jack Monroe, but worse.

@Lentilweaver

That is just the point, people have accepted her victim narrative in good faith. All given credence by her role as ambassador of a national DV charity. They are not the ones who need to be looking at their behaviour.