Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

@BadSkiingMum

You are so far off on this one. Been there, done that,no one is interested 😩

I do not doubt you and am sorry you went through that. But what is the best thing to do? Not asking you to do anything in respect of your own situation, but asking in a more general sense.

If people, you and others, have serious concerns, then the best eventual outcome is for it to move off a MN thread and into real life action via investigative journalism or official processes.

But the rest of it: the selfies, the travel, the pictures, the cycling, the running, the body focus...Isn't it just a lifestyle choice? Is it really a reasonable focus for ongoing criticism?

I realise that I am a lone voice here, but that's my perspective.

Strangely enough, I have encountered someone rather similar. This person actively tried to destroy relationships within my family for their own ends. Eventually they left but a lot of damage had been done. But they were a private individual, had done nothing illegal and there is no recourse for bad behaviour in private. In public they were very amiable and a lot of people liked them! I have never had any further contact with them.

@BadSkiingMum your points are absolutely valid and I agree wholeheartedly with, In terms of ‘validity’, Liz Fraser is a woman, a mother, a runner and is as entitled to speak about those subjects as the next person. I think that could be seen as a feminist stance.

My concern, as highlighted by @Physicsrevision, revolves around Liz Fraser’s narrow perspective. I firmly believe that Liz Fraser fails to acknowledge and perhaps even recognise, the significance of intersecting factors, such as gender, race, socio-economic status, disability, culture and many more factors.

Let’s take domestic violence, I’ve not seen, but might have missed or this could be a pending project 🙄 any advocacy and awareness emphasising the importance of policies and initiatives that address domestic violence in all its forms and among all communities. This includes raising awareness about the unique experiences of marginalised groups.

I appreciate I’m stating the obvious, but I think this is important in the observation of LF’s work. Intersectionality emphasises the importance of understanding that individuals can simultaneously experience multiple forms of discrimination or disadvantage based on their various social identities, such as gender, race, socio-economic status, sexual orientation, disability, culture and more.

“I haven’t seen LF address any of the following topics:

Lack of education and awareness about domestic violence laws, individuals’ rights and available resources.
Diverse experiences, unique vulnerabilities and intersecting factors.
Cultural stigma and ostracism.
Barriers to accessing services and the need for inclusive, culturally sensitive and tailored support services.
Recognising that survivors may have different needs and preferences on their journey toward safety and healing.
Economic factors affecting legal and social support across various cultures, identities and characteristics.

Efforts to address domestic violence, mental health, physical health, PTSD, ADHD, shortened life expectancy😜and related issues should consider the specific cultural context while promoting gender equality, legal protections, education and support services for survivors, regardless of their cultural background.

I also believe all prevention and intervention should prioritise equity, authenticity and purpose. Unfortunately, I fail to find any useful information, contact numbers or service references in LF's content. 🤷‍♀️

I don't think she is famous enough to be of interest to the press. If people have given her money they may have fallen for a scam but this goes on all the time and people need to do some research as to who is asking for money and what it will be used for.
Think of all the just giving appeals on line and fake charities. Nothing is done.

Here’s the rub@trytopullyoursocksupthe abuse is from the book, but it didn’t end when her ex left Venice. She pursued him! This week she’s “celebrating” 4 years since packing up and leaving but she’s not been upfront with new followers.
For two of those 4 years she invited him to live with her in her Oxford home as a family of 3.
Until he left her 2 years ago, the dialogue was “aren’t I a saint, helping this broken soul while I’ve done, do and will do nothing wrong.”
When He got sober and left the clearly toxic relationship, the 💩 hit the fan for him. The dialogue became more and more vitriolic to the most recent claims he nearly killed her.
If he did, she should be writing about failings in the justice system and how abuser get away with almost killing their victims.
There is a big headline story she can sell here. “Breakdowns in integrated Hospital, police, social service and court system leaves violent man free to try to kill again.”
She has the contacts. She’s written for the Daily Mail, been on This a morning and Jeremy Vine yet they’ve not bitten off her hand for an exclusive.
She posted yesterday a photo of her 6ft 4 and full of muscle, steel jawed protector and adult son, yet he’s not faced up to the ex like she says he will anyone who try’s to harm her.
Something smells fishy!

@Intriguedbythis

She's a hypocrite who uses feminist issues (motherhood, body image, domestic abuse, single-parenting, eating disorders, late diagnosis ADHD, self harm...I could go on) to elevate herself and not in any way to benefit others. She has enough of a platform & enough privilege to do plenty of good, but she adopts causes/issues only when they suit her. And then drops them. Often after she's duped other women into giving their time & money towards her latest venture. In the scheme of things there are worse people in the world, but I think the hypocrisy & dishonesty deserves to be called out. This isn't possible on her social media because she blocks & deletes even mildly critical posts/comments. So we sound the alarm here. Does that make sense @BadSkiingMum or are we all just hysterical harpies?

Mortonswood - that is all serious stuff but I don't think it's realistic to expect Liz Fraser to address any of that. She isn't a serious person.

She is in the entertainment space and we are responding to what she puts out as entertainment. And we are allowed not to like it / think it's rubbish and discuss it.
On the thing of "take your concerns through the proper channels" - well yes maybe someone should, maybe people are.
But from my point of view I don't know enough to do that, and that's not the only register in which we are "allowed" to respond to her output. She's made herself into a spectacle and of course people have emotional responses to that and stuff to say about it.

All this MH / ADHD / DA / Women's Voices stuff is nonsense, it's a simulcrum of activism or representation, it's just the hook she uses to justify taking up airspace. She is an entertainer and she is putting herself out there for personal attention as an entertainer.

I will admit I do feel pretty queasy about how vulnerable she has made herself personally, and by extension her kids. But don't be bollocking people for responding to her in exactly the register in whcih she has presented herself.

and that post about her son is gross. That "my guy is 6'4" " is pathetic from all women who do it (remember LaQueen anyone) but when it's your son.... ew

It’s been said on here before, the money Fraser takes from each individual is too small a crime for the police to invest resources in, but the impact on each woman scammed and cheated, some incredibly vulnerable is a huge crime. It’s also a crime against achieving a world where women are considered equals. Worse still because it’s a woman holding women back. Fraser doesn’t see this though. Shes no more a victim than she’s a feminist. Her behaviour is doing nothing to challenge or dismantle gender-based discrimination and oppression. I’ve seen first hand what she did to the poor wife of her ex. This in itself is criminal.

I read her book before I was aware of her social media presence. Having seen her constant selfies on instagram, semi naked pictures that no-one is really interested in and constant 'look at me' attention seeking I have changed my mind about her. She seeks a lot of validation from random members of the public, she comes across as very insecure and self centred m.
I imagine if you met her in real life she would be someone who talked 'at' you rather than to you and most of it would be about her.

Eat your heart out Jilly Cooper with that post 🤮. Attractiveness is a subjective and personal matter and not a central concern for feminists in their pursuit of gender equality I’d have thought.

Go @trytopullyoursocksup 👏🏻. Awesome post 👏🏻

Lots of amazing posts here already. 👏

why doesn’t Liz address the fact she’s (seemingly) dumped Her ‘for woman’s publishing house’

she

1. threw a launch party
2. begged people to donate
3. asked people to follow the ‘socials
4. took lots of weird dusty book photos
5. got a tiny coffee shop to sponsor her
6. apparently got so many donations that she could donate 10 percent of them…
7. ’hired’ an intern. Presumably a well meaning student who may have turned down other work opportunities..

Then didn’t mention it for 3-4 months
if she’s changed her mind.. fair enough

HAND THE DONATIONS BACK

This 👏🏻

Dumped her, as in Virginia Woolf? 😂@Intriguedbythis

Why doe she find it necessary to repost the nude photos? Who is this helping exactly

@Tortiemiaw Well, she gets to completely change the narrative on what was a valid complaint imo AND THEN, pretending to prove some point, she gets to post some of her favourite nudes of herself to get some likes and validation about her body - so, a double whammy.

Also, a point I'd like to make is that she complains about the complaint that was made wasting people's time. The time of those investigating it presumably. Liz has wasted a lot of NHS time recently with no consideration for the staff whatsoever. And also that the ADHD she had is now (as someone has already pointed out) only a 'possible' condition that she might suffer from. A bit like her impending death that was suddenly no longer looming earlier in the year. When will the lies stop? How can she expect anyone to take her seriously when she compulsively lies all the time. As for feminism - I don't believe she has a clue what the word means.

Has the publishing house been officially ended?

I think it very unfair you seek to shut down women’s real experiences of abuse from LF by telling them to seek official redress.
The fact that so many women come on these threads to share their horror stories is ample proof.

The police will barely investigate burglaries; they are hardly likely to investigate a low level narcissist who convincingly fundraises for plausible businesses such as an all women’s publishing company and a mental health concern.

@Tortiemiaw

"Why doe she find it necessary to repost the nude photos? Who is this helping exactly"

It's not helping anyone. So immature. One comment from one bloke is not evidence of "TOTAL support". Hardly a ringing endorsement from the sisterhood.

@Raffington55

She is quite happy to "waste the time and energy of many professionals" when it fits her agenda. Like fighting her child's father in the family courts for two years rather than coming to an agreement in the child's best interests. Public money seemingly no object when she is using it to wage a personal vendetta.

I am not seeking to shut anyone down. Far from it. But if nothing is ever taken forward through any official channel (either individually or collectively) then the situation will remain the same.

Anyway, I have given my perspective several times so will leave this thread now.

Who remembers this corker? Her daughter was TWELVE YEARS OLD and looked it.

“If she weren't my daughter, I'd have to hate her more than a tiny bit.”

“I have to learn to accept that my clothes will look better on my daughter and that when we are walking down the street together, the whistles and looks are directed at her now, not at me. And to be happy about that.”

Don’t be happy. Bash the perverts with your brolly and report them. Our budding domestic violence ambassador seemed to have missed the efforts of support agencies to get the Protection from Sex-based Harassment in Public Bill through parliament. She’s actually on TV endorsing wolf whistling! This Morning, possibly.

Could her jealousy of her daughter (in the article she protests too much) triggered her affairs?

Train Man was 14 years ago according to his wife @nopain @nopain2. HWCBM, just after this. Than Mike the Tyke. Liz humping all three while Hapless Harry innocently kept the home fires burning.

This is the daughter caught up in the HWCBM public showdowns when she was 17ish? This can’t have been easy for her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1273379/The-thing-anti-ageing-cream-combat-A-beautiful-daughter.html

Those nude shots are just plain weird and why would anyone complain to instagram about people posting semi nude shots it is full of women posing with their trout pouts and breasts on display 🤣if I had suffered domestic abuse so severe I was traumatised with ctpsd so severe I couldn’t work or even move I would not be posting pictures taken by the abuser as they would remind me of it all I would have binned anything reminding me of it

What is going on in this thread? It reads weirdly. Is this a coordinated posting about this woman? I don't even know who she is, some kind of Instagram poster?