Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse: The Times/Sunday Times story

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d4d93e74-5478-11ee-bc18-cbdd58145dc6?shareToken=b3cd34ae6268daad4741e6c092ceac97

I am just amazed by this thread.

It is scary how many would prefer to get their facts and opinions from YouTube rather than mainstream media.

Dispatches and The Times have taken a year to put this story together. Everything has been double and triple checked. These organisations take real risk by publishing. They lay themselves open to a massive libel settlement if it just a smear campaign. RB has the means to employ expensive lawyers and sue them.

The allegations in the program contain several of sexual assault. RB was given the opportunity to rebut the evidence but declined.

It will be interesting to see how many (if any) more alleged victims come forward now it is out in the open.

Well said @Newbutoldfather

My jaw is on the floor at the responses to this story.

The Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation is probably of a higher standard than a police one. The fact that Brand is so litigious means this will have been pored over by lawyers.

I am dumbfounded that people don’t understand this.

Well he would do, wouldn't he?

That's bog standard denial. It's not a rebuttal of evidence.

I haven't seen anyone post that he should be sentenced (or indeed executed ) without criminal justice involvement.

The point is that his behaviour has been ignored for decades. Without this documentary, it would continue.

This can hopefully lead to police involvement or at the very least lead to institutional change.

I don't understand why you are posting his video - he claims that this he is being framed because "they" want to "silence him".

He provides no evidence against the allegations, doesn't explain why he would be silenced, nor how this is relevant when it doesn'stop him making content and has given him a huge dose of publicity.

This won't put his fans off - it makes them even more enamoured - you're a clear example of this @Thea33

The five accusations of rape? Which are backed by medical, digital, police, and circumstantial evidence?

Why are you so keen to dismiss this?

@Thea33 ,

He refused to appear on the program to put his side of the story or rebut any of the allegations via his lawyer (time lines, locations, texts). He was given this opportunity, as that is how real investigative journalism works.

Instead, he preferred to issue a general, unspecific denial to his followers via YouTube.

Why do you think he chose this?

Why are you so up on Russell Brand’s nasty diseased dick, Thea?

a few easily influenced but unidentifiable tarts

Well, someone’s misogyny is showing here, isn’t it?

Disgusting way to refer to any woman. But referring to women claiming to have been raped / sexually assaulted is particularly low.

If you'd actually have bothered to watch any of his expose videos from the last few years then you would know perfectly well why he is being silenced and smeared.

Some people simply cannot see the bigger picture here.

@Thea33 Absolutely classic conspiracy theorist post here.

Tell us - explicitly explain what truth he has exposed that has led to "them" wanting to silence him? And why they haven't done something that actually silenced him, rather than just increasing his publicity?

No I haven't watched his videos because I don't want to contribute to his revenue, but you should be able to explain to us.

😂 so you believe him over all the evidence? He’s really got you fooled.

there are plenty of people trying to expose things that haven’t got evidence of being rapists for years.

easily influenced but unidentifiable tarts

Good god.

unidentifiable tarts

With that giveaway phrase, you lose all potential credibility, Thea.

I think the timing has a number of factors

Women are being believed more now and the action of the Spanish football team shows that perhaps there is shift in culture with regard to these alleged crimes.

Quite frankly the women would have had a tough time being believed or given a voice when Brand was at the peak of his fame. There have now in the last decade been a number of high profile prosecutions for predatory males and although imperfect there has been a shift in the way these crimes are judged by society as whole.

No, I think your instinct to call victims of sexual assault "tarts" perfectly shows what kind of person you are, for anyone who was in any doubt.

Isn’t that the case with most rape trials……and it comes down to who’s the most believable? Which is probably why most rape trials aren’t successful.

However the American victim in particular was very believable, three of Brands hangers on/colleagues/employees backed her story up to the journalists, said they heard her screaming. She has evidence from the rape centre records where she gave a full statement and said it was a celebrity. I think it was her that has the text from him apologising when she told him “no means no” in her text.

I think in a court of law the balance of being believed would be in her favour.

edited….the post I was quoting has been deleted while I was writing but this was n reply to someone saying the tv programme was all “he said, she said” and wouldn’t stand up in court.