Rebel Wilson has had her first child via surrogate

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Rebel Wilson (who I love) has announced via IG that she’s had her first baby via surrogate this week. Lovely for her to have a baby.

But the topic of surrogacy rears its ugly head and once again I’m wondering why so many rich and famous women choose to have a surrogate. Rebel has had significant publicity with her weight struggles and is currently in a relationship with a woman (she doesn’t name her as co-parent).

she hasn’t publicly said why she used a surrogate but I feel a bit uncomfortable by this as being a step yet again

But as the OP explicitly said "I’m wondering why so many rich and famous women choose to have a surrogate [...] she hasn’t publicly said why she used a surrogate" it's an entirely relevant detail.

While I greatly enjoy her acting and comedy talent I do not love her as a person. One, I don't know her, two, she took the TRAs' side, and three.... this!

For me the pregnancy, feeding, and the dedication to my child is all part of it. I know it's very unpopular but I find the entire idea of the denigration of motherhood as a whole life choice and detatched parenting really worrying and detrimental to society as a whole.

This is the reason for the rise in traditionalism and I'm all for it. I guess now we see who wins out.

Women's power to gestate and give birth to the young of the species and then to feed them from our bodies, is the one thing we can do which men cannot. It's the reason men have spent 6000 years trying to control us and defining us as goods and chattels along with their oxen, asses and playstations.

If we use women the way they do, we are setting ourselves up to be undermined and dehumanised the way we've been throughout recorded history. I cannot fathom the depths of stupidity that enable women to dehumanise each other in this way, but then I could never understand women who called other women slags either, so maybe that's just me. I suspect that the women who support this, think they, their daughters and their granddaughters will never be the handmaids in this scenario.

Your first point was okay but it escalated quickly.

What's dehumanising about it?

Agree @onmytenthcoffee

This woman called Alix gave a wonderful description of breast feeding and the importance for both mother and baby during a protest outside the clinic of Dr Gallagher the teen mastectomy surgeon.
22 minutes in.

Proponents of surrogacy very much seek to undermine the value of motherhood and the mother baby dyad.

Thank you for that. It's almost offensive to some people to talk about what breastfeeding is and all it does and how important it is.

And motherhood has inherent value. We can be anything but being a mother is as wonderful as having a career, in my opinion more so, in others maybe not, but it is certainly as valid and as important to society at the very least.

I think using women as incubators, disconnected from all the other elements of pregnancy, birth, feeding and feeling that is part of the bonding of mothers and babies, is incredibly dehumanising. It's taking away the whole woman and the baby and reducing one to an incubator and the other to a cute commodity. The denial of the bond between these two is part of this undermining of the importance of what women's bodies do, which men's bodies can't.

Just watched that speech by Alix @FannyCann it's amazing. Exactly what I was trying to get at but obviously not as well.

The sheer denial of what our bodies do. The attempt at corruption of it by men and by surrogacy.

Well I take back everything I said about admiring Jenifer Aniston for never going down this route. Seems who ever said it was because surrogacy wasn’t so normalised then was right, she’s kicking herself niw for not freezing her eggs www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/jennifer-aniston-allure-interview-pregnancy-battle-ivf-friends-b1038775.html?amp

Wishing she'd frozen her eggs doesn't mean she'd want to use a surrogate though. It would mean she'd have had a better chance at IVF success if she had access to frozen eggs, surely.

That doesn’t mean she’d have used a surrogate

It could mean either though couldnt it? Shes getting older trying to keep her career going, as the years go by her body is not in its child carrying prime, all of a sudden her peers like good friend Cameran Diaz are using their frozen eggs and transferring them to a surrogate. Thats what I took from the interview.

That’s not at all what she said so why would you take that from the interview

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11419767/Rebel-Wilson-parties-girlfriend-Ramona-Agruma-Paris-Hiltons-event.html

Good to see her priorities.

Yup @Beefcurtains79 its almost like the baby is just an accessory she bought, like a handbag or a dress.

How to parent without doing the parenting thing...

Brian Dowling got grief for the same.

Why isn't she how bonding with her new baby?

How many first time mothers would go out to a party and leave their newborn at that age?

I couldn't. I simply wouldn't have done it. I would not even have left DS with DH for a couple of hours at that age. Perhaps it's more normalised in the US because of their dark age issues with maternity leave but even then.

She can't argue this is work. This is a definite choice.

The baby isn't her emotional priority. She is undoubtedly outsourcing being the baby's primary carer too.

The phrase "Disney Dad" has been bandied around MN for years - these celeb Mums who use surrogates and then carry on life as normal without any adaptions are simply the female equivalents.

The surrogate must feel sick handing a baby over to someone who is already prioritising going to parties over childcare.

She does appear to have (re)gained weight. Has she got baby fat?

Saw this on her IG stories and it’s fucking outrageous honestly

It's genuinely sad for Roycie... Who is her primary care giver? It's clearly not Rebel.

What I mainly took from that Daily Mail article was:
"Wilson said she received the terrible news that all the eggs that she had harvested 'up until that point had not survived being thawed.' "
So - not her womb, not her egg.

I'm hoping this baby is with its mother, being cared for. Perhaps if a celebrity wants a baby for photo ops and Instagram moments they could just borrow one for a short period of time.

So nice to see a new parent out on the town, leaving the newborn they bought from a couple of other women with someone else. I'm guessing not the baby's mother.

Still I expect Wilson can afford the therapy that little girl is going to need.

Good article from Jo Bartosch today 4w.pub/children-parents-consumer-rights/

Leaving aside the ethics of surrogacy, was she planning on being a solo parent?
The article says she came out as gay, and started dating Ramona in June, so she would have been well into the surrogacy process by then and the surrogate mother would have already been pregnant.
I think that changes the dynamics that she is in the new and exciting phase of a relationship ....but also a new parent. These don't generally go hand in hand.