Rebel Wilson has had her first child via surrogate

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Rebel Wilson (who I love) has announced via IG that she’s had her first baby via surrogate this week. Lovely for her to have a baby.

But the topic of surrogacy rears its ugly head and once again I’m wondering why so many rich and famous women choose to have a surrogate. Rebel has had significant publicity with her weight struggles and is currently in a relationship with a woman (she doesn’t name her as co-parent).

she hasn’t publicly said why she used a surrogate but I feel a bit uncomfortable by this as being a step yet again

She is also 42 so likely some fertility options could be off the table.

The problem is that many of the celebs using surrogacy aren't using them due to any fertility issues. They are using them for convenience.

The money is absolutely nothing to them, a pittance.

No, I’m not her. I have just had my 12th pregnancy loss and I am fucking angry about it. And judgemental harpies who have no idea about infertility just get on my last nerve.)

Erm excuse you!

I have suffered multiple losses and 2 rounds of IVF before I had my DDs and despite that heartbreak and loss I still believe buying and selling babies plus the renting of a womans body is no different to human trafficking.

I am sorry for your losses but why does that making buying babies ok?

And less of the misogynistic language please. Women having opinions are not harpies.

Infertility is sad but it doesn't make surrogacy ok.

Side note: I don't think it's on to assume she's had weight loss surgery. Many millions of people achieve that sort of weight loss without surgery. And even if she did - it's not really relevant to her decision to buy a baby.

Rebel hasn't had a baby though, has she?

If you conceived easily you have no idea how hard infertility is so stop the judging.

Plenty of people here know exactly how hard it is to conceive - why would you think otherwise? - and still have huge issues with it.

Really disappointed to read about this - not a big fan of hers, but came on here to see if there was a thread about it.

Surely if we believe your body your choice surrogacy is a matter for the people involved

But it's not just a womans bodily choice.
There is a baby at the end of this. One who had no choice when it was taken from its mother at birth because adults paid cold hard cash to buy it.

"I’m wondering why so many rich and famous women choose to have a surrogate."
I do wonder if it's the latest status symbol.

If I was feeling kind, I'd consider if they felt unable to take the time out from their career to get pregnant/give birth, fearing that they'd have no career left - once out of the public eye they'd be forgotten and the fickle public would move on to The Next Big Thing, leaving them in the dust. And even if they weren't, their post-partum body might not get them the same roles as they're used to getting.

I'm not feeling kind, because this is exploitation. The don't want to go to all the bother of pregnancy, they just want an instagrammable accessory delivered to their door like any other commodity. And they have the money to make that happen.

As an adopted person I know you suffer a life long loss of your birth mother.
Surrogacy is not OK ever.

@Phrenologistsfinger I have PCOS, a bicornulate uterus, have had 11 miscarriages, including a very late loss. Am I allowed to say that ‘sourcing’ a baby, with no regard for its mental well-being, or renting a part of another human being, is morally repugnant?

I was desperate for a baby. Never so desperate that I would purposefully deprive one of its birth mother for my own gratification.

"But it's not just a womans bodily choice.
There is a baby at the end of this."

This is not a popular opinion when pro life politicians legislate for it in American states though is it....

Bit of an aside, I could be mistaken and apologies if so, but isn't she twaw? I'm pretty sure Tan is. Willing to bet they knew what a woman was when they were buying their babies

Also willing to bet this thread will be reported.

Lots of people have suffered pregnancy loss and difficulty conceiving, it doesn’t make surrogacy right.

This is not a popular opinion when pro life politicians legislate for it in American states though is it....

What does abortion have to do with surrogacy?

Exactly, this baby had no choice at all. Puppies aren't taken away from their mothers straight away. Surrogacy is not right.

It's not about what women can or can't do with their bodies. It's about it being legal for babies to be handed over to buyers, when in other circumstances it is not legal (or right!) for people to sell children.

"Puppies aren't taken away from their mothers straight away."

They are not produced using the purchasers egg/ sperm though either are they?

Secondly, puppies cannot be socialised properly by a new human owner because they are not even the same species!

100%
theres plenty of awful situations people are dealt every single day.
it gives people no right to buy a body and take a newborn away from its mother- disgusting!!

Completely unrelated.

It is always the woman’s choice first when she is pregnant.

The second the baby is born, it has its own rights, wants and needs. This is when the damage from surrogacy occurs, when the child is unnecessarily removed from its birth mother.

We recognise and try to reduce the huge damage this causes to adopted babies, even though in some cases it is necessary to remove them for their own safety.

But we completely ignore that this damage is also done to babies born from surrogacy, and for no other reason than someone wanted a child, and put that want above the actual child’s needs.

And no. It doesn’t matter how ‘nice’ the surrogate parents are, or how much money they have. The damage is done regardless, and perhaps slightly worse I imagine than for adopted children. At the very least adopted children have this deep hurt acknowledged and understood.

They are not produced using the purchasers egg/ sperm though either are they?

Actually they are..Well the sperm part. Artifical insemination happens in all types of animal breeding.

Totally!

Agree totally

And she is 42 which would have made pregnancy difficult.

"when in other circumstances it is not legal (or right!) for people to sell children"

Not exactly buying a baby though is it. People are paying for someone to gestate an embryo for them. Still an emotive issue obviously but it's not exactly a loophole for buying a child from its natural parents.

Walkden I asked you what has surrogacy got to do with abortion as you have brought abortion on to a surrogacy thread are you able to answer?