Domestic abuse- male victims & statistics

[MrsGhastlyCrumb]

So: I was at a class this evening where we were informed that about 20% of police call-outs for DA involve male victims.

Now, I do recognise that there are male victims, which is of course awful, but this seems high to me. I have certainly encountered and heard of male abusers calling in counter claims against their female partners in order to cover themselves. Is it possible that this is more widespread than I realised, therefore accounting for a large proportion of the numbers we were quoted, or is it genuinely that high, do you think?

TIA for your thoughts.

"and that is a laughable response to reliable figures"

ironic you talking about reliable figures when you haven't posted any figures on this thread...

I literally just posted a BCS stat in the pp. I have also pointed up the reliable stats: BCS, ONS and police data. Freely available online for anyone who wants to look.

I refer you back a. To read up on the different types of ipv/da. And b. To the consider that when a significantly higher rate of ‘severe’ injury is reported in these particular studies, there is no reflection of in the mortality stats, quite the opposite.

The BCS reports a lifetime prevalence of 26% among women and 17% among men and annual prevalence of 5.9% and 4.9%.

From the ONS 2020:

The majority of domestic murder victims (partner/ex partner/family member) March 2017 - March 2019 were female (77%). The majority of suspects were male (96%). Of the 83 male victims of domestic murder, in 44 cases the suspect was male, in 39 cases, female.

In the period April 2016 - March 2019, a total of 222 women were killed by a partner or ex-partner. The majority of suspects were male (98%). Which works out at 3 women every fortnight.

In the period March 2019 - 2020 the vast majority of defendants in domestic abuse prosecutions were recorded as male (92%), the majority of the victims were female (77%), the minority male (16%), the gender of the victim unrecorded in 7% of prosecutions.

And who were the perpetrators?
You missed that part.

Lesbians are quite often in a relationship with men before they figure out / come out as lesbians.
Most bisexual women are in relationships with men.

You tried to push this as some black and white gotcha…

"Lesbians are quite often in a relationship with men before they figure out / come out as lesbians.
Most bisexual women are in relationships with men."

Again no stats to back these up

www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/20/among-lgbt-americans-bisexuals-stand-out-when-it-comes-to-identity-acceptance/

Only 9% of bisexuals in this survey had same sex partners.

contexts.org/blog/sexual-orientation-versus-behavior-different-for-men-and-women/

A quote from the above article "whereas a much higher 59% (5% + 54%) of lesbians have had a male sexual partner sometime" in the section headed "How common is it for gay men and lesbians to have sex with other-sex sexual partners?" So, a majority of the lesbian women studied had previously had sex with a man.

"So, a majority of the lesbian women studied had previously had sex with a man."

So to verify the claim made that high ipv figures for lesbians are due to previous experience with men we would need a survey or study that broke down IPV figures stats for lesbians with/ without sexual experience with a man.

Oh wow, that's really transparent. Dismissing a woman as misguided and emotional to discredit what she's saying.
My ex used to do that. He was a self important cunt who hated women too.

But it's still odd that gay male couples have the least violence and lesbian and bisexual have much more.

Anecdotally, I've met a lot of quite aggressive lesbians. Can't think I've ever encountered an aggro gay guy, just bitchy ones.

The consequences for a man to hit a woman are a lot more extreme, and it's less socially acceptable.

I've been in multiple lesbian relationships, and it's just easier to go down that road than it is with a 200lb man because you're so much more evenly matched.

The regular behavior I directed toward my ex husband would have got me in a fist fight every time with the women I've dated. Like literally EVERY TIME. It's just different.

"The regular behavior I directed toward my ex husband would have got me in a fist fight every time with the women I've dated. Like literally EVERY TIME. It's just different"

But this was part of the argument had during this thread.

Many people feel that women are just not as inherently violent and men are because patriarchy. Hence many posters here claiming lesbians have high da or IPv stats because their male family members did it when they were growing up or male partners they had in the past.

In fact, I think you are right society in some senses protects women because it is not socially acceptable to be violent to women and there was a thread with prison workers said she felt safer in a men's prisoners because the prisons considered it weak to hit female officers and we all know how rapists are treated inside.

It seems like people of either sex can resort to violence but perhaps are less likely to do so if there is an imbalance of power

Please tell him to do it...ask him to get a secret camera in the house and hide it somewhere...there is a documentary called my wife my abuser and the man was advised by his friend to get a camera hidden in the house to catch the footage of the abuse. She's now in prison for a very long time .% of women that get away with lieing about them having DA against them is awful and without proof everyone believes them..I feel sorry for men ..I hope your brother finds the courage to stop this from happening to himself